The torture of Bradley Manning
 

Salon has an interesting article on the torture of Bradley Manning....
http://www.salon.com/news/opinion/gl...ing/index.html

fucking loser should be hanging from a rope in times square

No one should be held captive under these types of conditions. Sickening.

going to skip reading that

wish i had.

I have no sympathy for spies.

When he signed up for government work, got a security clearance, and took a government paycheck --he pledged not to do --exactly what he did.

Fuck him, and fuck him hard. Release him into the general population. He's a cute twink. He will get plenty of good lovin' from Buster and Reemer.

Right on DaddyHalbucks...put him on trial for treason and hang the fucker...or I could give a fuck if you leave the maggot in solitary till he dies

Doesn't matter if he killed your mother in the US the accused have rights. if you do not believe in the US Constitution I suggest moving to N Korea you dipshit. Do you love America or not? If not LEAVE.

that's some shitty treatment. No fucking pillow or blanket? wtf?

us goverment is clever. they like you to forget who actually stole and leaked the cables. they are focusing on assange because you americans love to hate "ze evil foreigner" much easier than your own usa citizen.so they shift the focus on assange while no one covers any news about manning. i mean can you imagine US people having to hate the patriotic US soldier like manning? or even worse - if the US public would come to his support -after all he is your fellow American AND soldier.(and we all know how USA loves their soldiers). government is playing their dirty tricks again..the less you ask about manning and more you hate on assange - that is what they want.

But you cant steal public domain. The government owns no copyright over the material, its public domain. So Manning had a legal right to do whatever he wanted with it.

What about people who join the mafia, swear an oath and later testify against other mafiosi?

Total pigshit..it is apparent that you do not understand the oath he took when he entered the military...nor do you understand what a security clearance entails...nor do you understand the UCMJ. He is lucky that he is not charged with Treason...at least at this point in time he has not been charged with Treason. At this time he has been charged with enough to keep him in a military prison for up to 52 years...and after the Article 32 investigation is completed he may have additional charges.

I'm sorry - can someone point out the "cruel and inhumane treatment" because I'm not seeing it. He's a fucking prisoner being held in a cell.

You want to know about cruel and inhumane punishment? Read a book called Bravo Two Zero. It's written by a member of a SAS team who went into Iraq in 1991. He had his teeth beat out of him with the butt of a rifle, one at a time......

There are more ways to torture someone than just beating them.

And sorry, but how to you knock out one tooth at a time with the butt end of a rifle? :error

The material is Public Domain, that means anyone in the world can do whatever they want with it. Under the law, no restrictions, ownership or inhibitions can be placed on public domain material. Manning is legally allowed to do whatever he wanted with the material and any attempt by anyone or any Government to inhibit the right to use public domain is in itself an offence.

Somebody should have shot him right away. Alive, he only attracts media attention.

It wasn't one tooth at a time. It was three or four teeth at a time. With a fucking rifle butt.

Putting someone in a fucking warm cell and feeding them three square meals a day isn't fucking torture. Not by a long shot. What the fuck do people really think happens when people are put in a jail cell when they are accused of a crime?

That material was not public domain. It was classified information. He did not produce it and thus did not own it.

How the fuck can people in our industry not know what public domain is? No wonder why we have fucking tube sites.

Pigshit. You are not the brightest of people...now are you?

:1orglaugh:1orglaugh I was not going to respond to this thread, but that was too funny to let go. And as much as it may pain me to agree with Rochard, solitary confinement is hardly torture and is more than likely, protective custody more than anything else.

At least now I know how you got your name.

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AND JESSICA LYNCH !!!!! :1orglaugh:1orglaugh

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bravo_Two_Zero

Now, if that would have been an Iraqi .... think he would still be alive ????


Gotta stop believing all those so-called heroes fairy tales .... Betcha you love them though ...

http://www.newyorker.com/reporting/2...a_fact_gawande

http://www.wired.com/wiredscience/20...ryconfinement/

http://www.alternet.org/rights/14649...isses_the_mark

Oh, you mean there might be someone that disagrees with that comment? Sorry.

seemed pretty clear from the article that his being in solitary 23 hours a day is an issue. It was specifically outlawed at one point, but i suppose both "cruel" and "inhumane" are open to alot of opinion. Inhumane would be something not human and humans are capable of some pretty terrible shit , so nothing is inhumane. Cruelty is just a matter of opinion i suppose and i'm sure many wouldn't even agree its wrong to be "cruel" to prisoners. They are prisoners.

I think solitary for 23 hours a day is cruel but i also think treason is pretty cruel and not entirely against "convicted" prisoners being treated cruelly , although i think there are more usefull things for them to do and being cruel to them doesn't help us or teach/punish them.

Getting teeth knocked out? I have at least six shattered and since reconstructed teeth, and three permanently gone. Happened playing hockey. I considered that fun.

Althouth the lack of a blankey is a bitch, if I was in jail I would consider it a privilege to spend 23 hours a day segregated from the general population.

And - if I was a member of the Canadian military and leaked secret documents, I would consider myself a spy and fully expect to be executed for treason. But I'm not.

That really pretty much sums it up. I do not know of any military that wouldn't.

oh yea? says there he's been held in solitary confinement for 5 months, with no conviction.

that's an american citizen, soldier nonetheless, being tortured without so much as a conviction.

and if you 't want to say that SC is not torture, you'll be fine with locking your dog in a box for a week.

but, wasn't american soldiers tried for abusing those prison detainees because they followed 'unlawful orders'?

how is this manning character not following that example? the american military machine gunned children, and tried to cover it up

It is difficult to understand the meaning of babble.

my apologies, what part of 'legally required to report war crimes' didn't you get?

And how does a mere Private get hold of so much sensitive information?

They were tried, he will be tried.

He did not "report" anything. Anything he leaked is hearsay.

Where did you say anything about being "legally required to report war crimes"?

What war crimes are you referring to?

When and what "american soldiers tried for abusing those prison detainees because they followed unlawful orders" are you referring to?

yea they were tried for not saying something, and this guy will be tried for saying something

the videos are hearsay?

Those are not the charges.:2 cents:

You are aware that he leaked more than just two videos, right?

I have a question for all the liberals chiming in - if they tried and convicted him of treason, would you then be happy about him getting the chair or whatever he'd get? Is it just the fact that he has not been found guilty yet?

Just curious to see where people stand on what he actually (allegedly) did and how he should be treated for it when found guilty of it. It seems to me there's a lot of people licking Assange's nuts, not realizing what was involved for him to have gotten all the info he got. If Manning did what he is alleged to have done, should be be put to death or not? And if not, what would you consider to be treason?

if you are going to fly an Airborne avatar, why don't you post some pictures of yourself in the Army Airborne..

You faked you death and have proven to be a liar here, so you flying that avatar without proof that you were actually in the Airborne is a disservice to the United States Army and I would appreciate it if you would post proof that you were actually a member of Airborne or remove that from your avatar... :2 cents:




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I am an Airborne trooper! A PARATROOPER!

I jump by parachute from any plane in flight. I volunteered to do it, knowing well the hazards of my choice.

I serve in a mighty Airborne Force--famed for deeds in war--renowned for readiness in peace. It is my pledge to uphold its honor and prestige in all I am--in all I do.

I am an elite trooper--a sky trooper--a shock trooper--a spearhead trooper. I blaze the way to far-flung goals--behind, before, above the foe's front line.

I know that I may have to fight without support for days on end. Therefore, I keep mind and body always fit to do my part in any Airborne task. I am self-reliant and unafraid. I shoot true, and march fast and far. I fight hard and excel in every art and artifice of war.

I never fail a fellow trooper. I cherish as a sacred trust the lives of men with whom I serve. Leaders have my fullest loyalty, and those I lead never find me lacking.

I have pride in the Airborne! I never let it down!




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I did not fake my death and I have not been "proven to be a liar here". If I have been proven to be a liar here...then you can easily post proof of it...now can't you? If you cannot then that will make you to be a proven liar...now won't it.

Now feel free to :321GFY...sport.

His comprehension ends as soon as anyone hits that point in the conversation where America does wrong. Oh I long for the day that American children are getting carelessly gunned down in the streets, left maimed and charred for their parent's to cling to what's left of their bodies as their homes crumble and burn. DEATH TO AMERICA!

i long for the day canada runs out of beer eh.

That'll happen right about as soon as someone actually brings a war to American soil. So we'll both just have to sit tight a long away. If the American people are cool with their country being a warmonger hate machine, I think they should get a taste of the good stuff on their home soil for once. I'm not talking a few thousand people going down in a isolated incident either. I'm talking day to day death a destruction in your own back yards. It'd be a wake up call desperately needed.

it's not the americanpeople, it's the politicians/government/military industrial complex that has morphed into this current version.
just like iran, good people there, shitty government representing them. the iranians i know call themselves persians because they do not want to be associated with their government.

i have no probs not being the leader of the free world, it's the next country's turn and many people i know feel the same.

lets try something different.

David House, an american activist who seems to believe whistleblowing isn't a crime, and has done no crime himself, gets picked up on his way back from mexico. the charge? none. Was he ever alleged to have done something wrong? no.

was he questioned extensively over his involvement with bradleymanning.org and have everything he had with him confiscated, forever, with no hope of getting that stuff back?

you betcha.

Why not answer the question?

what did he expect would happen? did he think he would serve time in a Ramada inn. I've seen enough Lockup to know a max security prison is a horrible place to be. He has noone to blame but himself. And he's not the only prisoner in the system going through this.

well, he said liberal.

if you're talking about YOUR question, i am curious what you think he is being charged with

Typical belief of someone who's never done time.

It's worse than you think, and you have no idea what you're made of until it happens.