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Jman 12-15-2010 11:08 AM

Jullian Assange Leaks are you Pro or Con??? Simple question and poll
 
So you behind him or do you think someone should shut him up ASAP???

Serge Litehead 12-15-2010 11:27 AM

its not like he hacked into to systems and stole that info or paid someone to steal it for him.

if you have a problem with leaking then focus should be directed into securing your intel better.

on the other hand i cannot be against exposing government entities that may be involved in shady practices.

Amputate Your Head 12-15-2010 11:39 AM

i'm all for exposing government corruption & crimes, but Assange will be used as a tool to push through legislation to censor the Internet, and that's not good. The police state is here, now. :2 cents:

IllTestYourGirls 12-15-2010 11:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Amputate Your Head (Post 17775763)
i'm all for exposing government corruption & crimes, but Assange will be used as a tool to push through legislation to censor the Internet, and that's not good. The police state is here, now. :2 cents:

Sad but true. :Oh crap

ottopottomouse 12-15-2010 11:50 AM

Needs an option for "I don't really give a shit about any of the leaked stuff"

MrCain 12-15-2010 11:56 AM

I support Assange!

PR_Glen 12-15-2010 11:58 AM

that's ridiculous... he should be aloud to take a leak whenever he wants...

kbauerctu 12-15-2010 12:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Amputate Your Head (Post 17775763)
i'm all for exposing government corruption & crimes, but Assange will be used as a tool to push through legislation to censor the Internet, and that's not good. The police state is here, now. :2 cents:

:2 cents: 3x

JFK 12-15-2010 12:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ottopottomouse (Post 17775801)
Needs an option for "I don't really give a shit about any of the leaked stuff"

YUP, true, but as Amp said......
Quote:

Originally Posted by Amputate Your Head (Post 17775763)
i'm all for exposing government corruption & crimes, but Assange will be used as a tool to push through legislation to censor the Internet, and that's not good. The police state is here, now. :2 cents:


Quagmire 12-15-2010 12:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Amputate Your Head (Post 17775763)
i'm all for exposing government corruption & crimes, but Assange will be used as a tool to push through legislation to censor the Internet, and that's not good. The police state is here, now. :2 cents:

Damned if you do and damned if you don't.

Might as well get the revolution started today rather than waiting for the food riots a few years from now. :)

Rochard 12-15-2010 12:32 PM

I'm okay with exposing fraud or waist or corruption or any kind of illegal activity. This is what we have news organizations for. It's one thing to expose something that is illegal, but another thing to expose hundreds of thousands of classified government secrets with the only intention of embarrassing a country.

In this case, the US isn't embarrassed. These are mostly cables from the US State Department - talking about the secrets of other countries. Lots of governments are pissed about this, pissed about what has been released about them and their governments into the public.... And at the same time they all fear when Wiki Leaks exposes their secrets.

I wonder how many billions this just cost the US - the way the US government around the world sends information will need to be changed, and then the political damage that has been done.... And what did the general public gain? A bunch of documents that no one gives a shit about has been released? LOL.

Barry-xlovecam 12-15-2010 12:38 PM

Yes and No.

In instances where the leaked documents were proof of criminal activity ? yes.

In instances where the documents disclosed had no protection under the "whistleblowers act" and whose sole purpose was to disclose diplomatic documents that might be considered "shady" ? no ? they were classified documents and disclosed in violation of the law.

BFT3K 12-15-2010 12:43 PM

Governments watch and track everything WE do, and we fund them, so finding out everything THEY are up to, just sounds like the right way to go!

A truly transparent government is our best plan towards weeding out the bullshit and corruption.

More power to the leakers!

Jman 12-15-2010 12:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ottopottomouse (Post 17775801)
Needs an option for "I don't really give a shit about any of the leaked stuff"

Then go on and make your own poll :winkwink:

75% for, interesting results so far :thumbsup

Mike Honcho 12-15-2010 01:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Amputate Your Head (Post 17775763)
i'm all for exposing government corruption & crimes, but Assange will be used as a tool to push through legislation to censor the Internet, and that's not good. The police state is here, now. :2 cents:

Turns out Zeitgeist was correct the entire time.

Cash 12-15-2010 01:33 PM

Hell Yeah let him leak

Davy 12-15-2010 02:04 PM

Somebody should dump him off a bridge. End of story.

{Psycho} 12-15-2010 02:05 PM

Huh ....

just a punk 12-15-2010 02:18 PM

I'm for freedom of speech. Nuf said.

Jman 12-15-2010 02:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Davy (Post 17776283)
Somebody should dump him off a bridge. End of story.

+ 75% disagrees with you on this one :upsidedow

ottopottomouse 12-15-2010 02:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jean-Francois (Post 17776037)
Then go on and make your own poll :winkwink:

It's more about not caring at all about the content of anything released.

I do agree with Amp though that it will just be used as an excuse to do 'something'

Jman 12-15-2010 07:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ottopottomouse (Post 17776441)
It's more about not caring at all about the content of anything released.

I do agree with Amp though that it will just be used as an excuse to do 'something'

I also agree with Amp, although I am for the world to get the facts, this will entice governments to censor and big brother the information distributed online :Oh crap

Bama 12-15-2010 10:17 PM

This crap the government does is like what they make hot dogs out of.... just shut up and take a bite and be grateful it tastes pretty good on a bun.

tiger 12-16-2010 12:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Amputate Your Head (Post 17775763)
i'm all for exposing government corruption & crimes, but Assange will be used as a tool to push through legislation to censor the Internet, and that's not good. The police state is here, now. :2 cents:

That was every government and corporations wet dream before all this. They don't need an excuse to push that agenda.

Agent 488 12-16-2010 12:50 AM

was just reading about the origins of wikileaks.

Wikileaks formulated its mandate on its website as follows: "[Wikileaks will be] an uncensorable version of Wikipedia for untraceable mass document leaking and analysis. Our primary interests are oppressive regimes in Asia, the former Soviet bloc, Sub-Saharan Africa and the Middle East, but we also expect to be of assistance to those in the west who wish to reveal unethical behavior in their own governments and corporations," CBC News - Website wants to take whistleblowing online, January 11, 2007, emphasis added).

This mandate was confirmed by Julian Assange in a June 2010 interview in The New Yorker:

"Our primary targets are those highly oppressive regimes in China, Russia and Central Eurasia, but we also expect to be of assistance to those in the West who wish to reveal illegal or immoral behavior in their own governments and corporations. (quoted in WikiLeaks and Julian Paul Assange : The New Yorker, June 7, 2010, emphasis added)

people that say wikileaks just exists to destroy america are silly.

Jman 12-16-2010 07:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Agent 488 (Post 17777554)
was just reading about the origins of wikileaks.

Wikileaks formulated its mandate on its website as follows: "[Wikileaks will be] an uncensorable version of Wikipedia for untraceable mass document leaking and analysis. Our primary interests are oppressive regimes in Asia, the former Soviet bloc, Sub-Saharan Africa and the Middle East, but we also expect to be of assistance to those in the west who wish to reveal unethical behavior in their own governments and corporations," CBC News - Website wants to take whistleblowing online, January 11, 2007, emphasis added).

This mandate was confirmed by Julian Assange in a June 2010 interview in The New Yorker:

"Our primary targets are those highly oppressive regimes in China, Russia and Central Eurasia, but we also expect to be of assistance to those in the West who wish to reveal illegal or immoral behavior in their own governments and corporations. (quoted in WikiLeaks and Julian Paul Assange : The New Yorker, June 7, 2010, emphasis added)

people that say wikileaks just exists to destroy america are silly.

Well we all know it's always about America in America :upsidedow


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