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  • BFT3K
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    • Dec 2005
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    #1

    Ron Paul Defends WikiLeaks



    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GDp1izlMQT0
  • MetaMan
    I AM WEB 2.0
    • Jan 2003
    • 28682

    #2
    Sorry dude you need to add explosions or show terrorist "rag heads" or a black person getting beaten by a white guy to get any attention.

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    • bronco67
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      • Dec 2006
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      #3
      How do you defend a guy who operates from a James Bond villian underground lair?



      yes, this is the actual Wikileaks operational center. Its not some guy working from his apartment.
      Last edited by bronco67; 12-10-2010, 09:46 AM.

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      • Serge Litehead
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        • Dec 2002
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        #4
        seems like Ron Paul is the only man left with common sense and integrity in DC while everyone else there are blindly busy with their career growth and job securities.

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        • Amputate Your Head
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          #5
          Originally posted by holograph
          seems like Ron Paul is the only man left with common sense and integrity in DC while everyone else there are blindly busy with their career growth and job securities.
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          • Serge Litehead
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            • Dec 2002
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            #6
            Originally posted by bronco67
            How do you defend a guy who operates from a James Bond villian underground lair?



            yes, this is the actual Wikileaks operational center. Its not some guy working from his apartment.
            it not WL's operation headquarters. thats just a datacenter build in underground nuclear bunker. i don't know who runs it but it also home of the pirate party and the pirate bay

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            • The Demon
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              • Apr 2003
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              #7
              I love Ron Paul but sometimes I wonder if he's living in a fantasy world.
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              • Phoenix
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                • Nov 2002
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                #8
                Originally posted by bronco67
                How do you defend a guy who operates from a James Bond villian underground lair?



                yes, this is the actual Wikileaks operational center. Its not some guy working from his apartment.
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                • PornGreen
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                  #9
                  Originally posted by The Demon
                  I love Ron Paul but sometimes I wonder if he's living in a fantasy world.
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                  • Kiopa_Matt
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                    • Oct 2007
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                    #10
                    Originally posted by bronco67
                    How do you defend a guy who operates from a James Bond villian underground lair?



                    yes, this is the actual Wikileaks operational center. Its not some guy working from his apartment.
                    I wish that was my office. That would be wicked.
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                    • bronco67
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                      • Dec 2006
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                      #11
                      I wonder why people seem to forget that the root of this leak is based on espionage by an American soldier who shouldn't have had any kind of security clearance. As a kid, he refused to say the pledge of allegiance, and is a known flaming left wing activist.

                      Both him and Assange have nothing but malicious intent toward the US government. They've also put US soldiers and operatives in danger, and made their jobs much more difficult. Anyone that thinks all nations can just be transparent and operate without secrecy are just showing how naive they are.
                      Last edited by bronco67; 12-10-2010, 10:28 AM.

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                      • dyna mo
                        just a fucking jerk
                        • Dec 2008
                        • 68184

                        #12
                        Originally posted by holograph
                        seems like Ron Paul is the only man left with common sense and integrity in DC while everyone else there are blindly busy with their career growth and job securities.
                        don't believe the hype.

                        ron paul is a career politician with the main goal of getting elected, just like every other politician inside the beltway. he's a government official that creates hype via an anti-government message.

                        nothing more.

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                        • CYF
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                          #13
                          Originally posted by dyna mo
                          don't believe the hype.

                          ron paul is a career politician with the main goal of getting elected, just like every other politician inside the beltway. he's a government official that creates hype via an anti-government message.

                          nothing more.
                          well, you might feel like that, but Ron Paul has my vote. It's not just hype, he does what he says.
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                          • MetaMan
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                            #14
                            Originally posted by bronco67
                            I wonder why people seem to forget that the root of this leak is based on espionage by an American soldier who shouldn't have had any kind of security clearance. As a kid, he refused to say the pledge of allegiance, and is a known flaming left wing activist.

                            Both him and Assange have nothing but malicious intent toward the US government. They've also put US soldiers and operatives in danger, and made their jobs much more difficult. Anyone that thinks all nations can just be transparent and operate without secrecy are just showing how naive they are.
                            ohhhhhhh so wars based on lies dont put soldiers in danger? and wikileaks does?

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                            • quiet
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                              #15
                              Ron Paul is the shit, straight up.
                              we'll miss you our friend. RIP

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                              • dyna mo
                                just a fucking jerk
                                • Dec 2008
                                • 68184

                                #16
                                Originally posted by CYF
                                It's not just hype, he does what he says.
                                you mean like toeing the republican party line by voting with the party 80% of the time?

                                or like voting for the iraq war then speaking out against the war to the public?

                                or something else?

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                                • bronco67
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                                  • Dec 2006
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                                  #17
                                  Originally posted by MetaMan
                                  ohhhhhhh so wars based on lies dont put soldiers in danger? and wikileaks does?
                                  Yes, that's true too.

                                  It doesn't mean all of our secrets should be exposed for the world to see, including our enemies. We have to be realistic about what planet we're on.

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                                  • webairalex
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                                    #18
                                    Originally posted by dyna mo
                                    you mean like toeing the republican party line by voting with the party 80% of the time?

                                    or like voting for the iraq war then speaking out against the war to the public?

                                    or something else?
                                    Huh? Where are you getting that info?

                                    Paul was the only 2008 Republican presidential candidate to have objected to and voted against the Iraq War Resolution,[16][17] and continues to oppose U.S. presence in Iraq, charging the government with using the War on Terror to curtail civil liberties. He believes a just declaration of war after the September 11, 2001, attacks should have been directed against the actual terrorists, Al-Qaeda, rather than against Iraq, which has not been linked to the attacks.[18] In 2003, Paul said that when America seeks war, it must be sought only to protect citizens, it must be declared by the U.S. Congress




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                                    • MetaMan
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                                      #19
                                      Originally posted by bronco67
                                      Yes, that's true too.

                                      It doesn't mean all of our secrets should be exposed for the world to see, including our enemies. We have to be realistic about what planet we're on.
                                      Hm im very undecided how i feel anymore. i dont believe much in secrets. most secrets are not to help people but help the few.

                                      im all for pure openess honestly.

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                                      • IllTestYourGirls
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                                        • Feb 2007
                                        • 14311

                                        #20
                                        When you are the only sane one in Washington you tend to appear to be insane.

                                        Ron Paul 2012. It is time for real change.

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                                        • CYF
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                                          #21
                                          Originally posted by IllTestYourGirls

                                          Ron Paul 2012. It is time for real change.
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                                          • dyna mo
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                                            • Dec 2008
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                                            #22
                                            Originally posted by webairalex
                                            Huh? Where are you getting that info?

                                            Paul was the only 2008 Republican presidential candidate to have objected to and voted against the Iraq War Resolution,[16][17] and continues to oppose U.S. presence in Iraq, charging the government with using the War on Terror to curtail civil liberties. He believes a just declaration of war after the September 11, 2001, attacks should have been directed against the actual terrorists, Al-Qaeda, rather than against Iraq, which has not been linked to the attacks.[18] In 2003, Paul said that when America seeks war, it must be sought only to protect citizens, it must be declared by the U.S. Congress
                                            ok, so i was off on the iraq war. nevertheless, my point still stands, he votes along party lines 8 out of 10 votes, that's when he's around to vote.

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                                            • Poindexterity
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                                              #23
                                              Originally posted by dyna mo
                                              don't believe the hype.

                                              ron paul is a career politician with the main goal of getting elected, just like every other politician inside the beltway. he's a government official that creates hype via an anti-government message.

                                              nothing more.
                                              i wish i wasn't so jaded and fucked over that i agreed with you.
                                              but i am.
                                              no sig

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                                              • PornMD
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                                                • Jan 2007
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                                                #24
                                                There's a difference between secrecy and huge blatant lies. I can live fine not knowing every detail of what the government does to protect us, but for them to start an unnecessary war that costs our money and soldiers' lives based on huge lies should never be acceptable to ANYONE.

                                                That said, I'm not entirely sure that Wikileaks has really exposed anything serious that intelligent people didn't already know or assume and would not be surprised if this whole thing does more damage to us all than good, once our father the government starts eliminating our privacy thanks to this.

                                                It's like wow, Al Qaeda is largely backed by Saudi Arabia...no shit? Did we all just forget how many of the 9/11 hijackers were from Saudi Arabia? Or Osama Bin Laden's roots?
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                                                • IllTestYourGirls
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                                                  • Feb 2007
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                                                  #25
                                                  There are 100k pages right? My guess is it will be awhile before we see the juicy stuff come to the top IF the media ever reports it. Plus he has a lot more docs that are going to be released right? I have a feeling the best is yet to come.

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                                                  • Dcat
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                                                    #26
                                                    Ron Paul 2012!

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                                                    • Agent 488
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                                                      #27
                                                      would not be surprised if he is on the payoll of russia or china.

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                                                      • jonnydoe
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                                                        #28
                                                        One thing is for sure...W is not inviting him over for Christmas dinner.
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                                                        • Dcat
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                                                          #29
                                                          Originally posted by dyna mo
                                                          ok, so i was off on the iraq war. nevertheless, my point still stands, he votes along party lines 8 out of 10 votes, that's when he's around to vote.


                                                          You are a riot!

                                                          Ron Paul is so principled that he didn't even vote for his own "Audit The Fed" bill (H.R. 1207), because it was lumped into the Finance Reform bill, which he didn't believe in.
                                                          Last edited by Dcat; 12-10-2010, 02:55 PM.

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                                                          • tiger
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                                                            #30
                                                            Great fucking speech. Glad someone had the balls to say it.

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                                                            • dyna mo
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                                                              • Dec 2008
                                                              • 68184

                                                              #31
                                                              Originally posted by Poindexterity
                                                              i wish i wasn't so jaded and fucked over that i agreed with you.
                                                              but i am.
                                                              someone with balls to admit the truth.

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                                                              • seeandsee
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                                                                • Ethersync
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                                                                  #33
                                                                  Originally posted by dyna mo
                                                                  don't believe the hype.

                                                                  ron paul is a career politician with the main goal of getting elected, just like every other politician inside the beltway. he's a government official that creates hype via an anti-government message.

                                                                  nothing more.
                                                                  You are so far off on this that you are either intentionally trying to mislead people or simply not paying any attention at all.

                                                                  Originally posted by dyna mo
                                                                  you mean like toeing the republican party line by voting with the party 80% of the time?

                                                                  or like voting for the iraq war then speaking out against the war to the public?

                                                                  or something else?
                                                                  Wrong again on both points. He does not toe any party line and he was and is totally against the war in Iraq. Seriously, where do you get your information?





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                                                                  • nico-t
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                                                                    #34
                                                                    whatever his agenda may be, he speaks the truth on almost everything.

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                                                                    • Ethersync
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                                                                      #35
                                                                      An even better one for dyna mo...

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                                                                        #36
                                                                        Ron Paul spends too much pork to be credible about smaller government

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                                                                        • Redrob
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                                                                          #37
                                                                          Ron Paul get a lot of respect here in Texas from both sides of the aisle. His appeal is to the common person. I still see Ron Paul for President signs hung in people's windows.

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                                                                          • ner0
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                                                                            #38
                                                                            You are an idiot. Stop posting in threads that are over your head. Dumb fuck
                                                                            Originally posted by dyna mo
                                                                            ok, so i was off on the iraq war. nevertheless, my point still stands, he votes along party lines 8 out of 10 votes, that's when he's around to vote.

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                                                                            • Rangermoore
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                                                                              #39
                                                                              I have no issue with wikileaks.. The info that is being put out in the public has no value to anyone other that it will embarrass a few folks. I have an active TS (SCI) for contract work I still do. Some of the reports from iraq (2004-2005-2006) are some of the very ones I and my team sent up the chain. And trust me when I say they are of no value to anyone not in the loop. I am laughing at all hub bub from people that have no idea what classified info really is..

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                                                                              • Ethersync
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                                                                                #40
                                                                                Originally posted by Rangermoore
                                                                                The info that is being put out in the public has no value to anyone other that it will embarrass a few folks...
                                                                                There have been some interesting revelations, but nothing shocking. Only 1295 out of 251,287 cables have been released so far so maybe it gets better.
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                                                                                • Redrob
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                                                                                  #41
                                                                                  My advice is that whenever the administration picks up the rhetoric on a particular topic, watch out elsewhere because they are going to pick your pocket.

                                                                                  Meese Commission sensationalism diverting the US prosecutors to attack the adult industry while the banks were looting old peoples' savings accounts: Charles Keating and Lincoln Savings etc.

                                                                                  People hauling $50+ million in cash in travel bags in a single trip out of Afghanistan; and, we are dumb enough not to know why nothing is getting accomplished while we pay out billions of dollars.

                                                                                  Ron Paul has it right.....sorry folks.

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                                                                                  • IllTestYourGirls
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                                                                                    • Feb 2007
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                                                                                    #42
                                                                                    Originally posted by Redrob
                                                                                    Ron Paul has it right.....sorry folks.
                                                                                    /thread.

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                                                                                    • Vendzilla
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                                                                                      #43
                                                                                      It seems everyone is basing their opinions on wikileaks by what secrets or deals the governments are keeping that would embarrass them.
                                                                                      I don't look at it that way
                                                                                      I worry about the average soldier that has some equipment or some movement that is detailed is compromised with all this. That private that gave out the secrets, he should be put to death, thats an oath you take in the military, if he didn't like, too fucking bad. And the guy that spread it all over the place, I don't care if lives or dies either.
                                                                                      If this shit would have happened on a different presidents watch, heads would have rolled, but our president is a pussy, he's already probably apologizing to other countries for it
                                                                                      Carbon is not the problem, it makes up 0.041% of our atmosphere , 95% of that is from Volcanos and decomposing plants and stuff. So people in the US are responsible for 13% of the carbon in the atmosphere which 95% is not from Humans, like cars and trucks and stuff and they want to spend trillions to fix it while Solar Panel plants are powered by coal plants
                                                                                      think about that

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                                                                                      • webairalex
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                                                                                        #44
                                                                                        Call Ron what you will, I believe the man, when I saw him debate with all the other republican candidates back in this past race I though I was dreaming. He said things to a national audience that had never been uttered from a republican running for office. To this day I watch that and feel inspired,(seeing Guliani's smirking face is enough) if there can be a little glimmer of hope in this insane goverment I believe its his courage.




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