wikileaks is going to change the world
 

for me wikileaks is great.

i say that as i am liberal and belive in freedom of speech.

I say this becase I belive its opening up goverments across the world.

They say it will put lives at risk, but more I see the more I belive thats the 'scare spin' they want to put out.

To me the cat is out of the bag. Its too late to shut down. Even if the site closes more will open and we have mirror sites too.

The media are behind wikileaks from what I can see in the UK.

The public in the UK is also suporting wikileaks. At about 1.30 pm there is a demonstration to asuport this chap.

Many well known UK people are backing him.

This could make the UK goverment very unpopular.

So far the bulk of files seem to be more about keeping info from us, rather than other goverments/countries. By this I mean non of the info would seem relevent to other countries but more relevent to the people. For instance in the last few hours info on why the locerby bomber was released has been published. This is info only relevent to the people of the UK and USA, no goverment in any country could care less.

And lets not kid ourselves, any important documents will be known by other countries anyway. We know many countries have spies still working. Lets be honest we all know the UK will have spies in other counytries as well as the USA and russia having spies. Goverments know everyones secrets. The only ones who do not are us (the people).

So why should we not know this info?

If we are too stupid or cannot be trusted with this info, then why should we be alowed to vote?

I belive that this will change goverments all over the world to be more honest and open. I would sugest it will make the world a safer place too.

I think we have far too long accepted that it was fine for goverments to hide documents away and get people to sign confidential agreements. Sure during wars its one thing, but I suspect that things brought in during such as ww2 have stuck.

So I say wikileaks is great.

I do not fear wikileaks. I fear those who are trying to shut wikileaks down.

I wonder if in the long run such as paypal will regret bowing down to presuer from 'the man' and should have suported wikileaks.

You should add Not sure - thats what i am - its good to have freedom of speech and also to have any war crimes or misdeeds brought out - but it depends on how much trouble it causes. It could start wars possibly..

If it wasnt for leakywiks we would have no idea that stuff like this goes on: link :2 cents:

why would it course wars?

goverments have this info, plus a lot more.

lets be honest china will know all the secrets of usa.

its the game they play, they pretend not to know while knowing everything.

in the uk one newspaper got hold of mp's expenses. the mp's were going to publish a watered down version, but the papers published in full. that changed a lot of what people thought of mp's in the uk.

the problem with the 'not sure' option means you let goverments hide info. they publish bits but anything they do not want you to know they can stamp and say it will cost lives.

For any damage it does, we need the wikileaks of this world. This is why such media tends to have legal and constitutional protection. The corporate/political/military elite of this world, particularly in the US, are way too powerful and operate above the rule of law. We deserve to know what is going on. It is not to say I agree with everything wikileaks does, but given a choice I think we fundamentally need such a media agency in this world.

if you think its bad, you submit to being lied to and spoonfed by your government like a puppet on a string.

I think it's great. A more informed populous may cause some short-term problems, but long-term, I think it can only lead to good things.

Won't change anything long term.

The name is bad so I voted NO. Sounds like a walmart brand geriatric diaper. If it had a cooler sounding name like humdingerz.com or betchyafukindidntknowthisshit.org I would be a supporter. Also, the dude behind the site is weird looking to me. Like a metrosexual but not really. I dont buy the whole rape charge anyway unless there was a little boy involved or an extremely old lady.

lol

Not with you on the domain name but yeah Assange is a little weasly looking. His rape charges are obviously trumped... and apparently it's just cause he didn't wear a rubber....

They were actual women though not kids, probably paid by some intelligence service to help get him busted...

:D

https://youtube.com/watch?v=PN9n1bAahg4

"nothings gonna change my world" - John Lennon

https://youtube.com/watch?v=vl21lKpY8JQ

"nothings gonna change the world." - marilyn manson

choose one.

If you think its bad wait till they release the other 99% of the documents. Also if you think its good wait till they release the other 99% of the documents. They are taking him down but he is going to take some people with him

i feel things have already changed

22 clever people and 11 twits

I thought the poll would be yes or no...?

my vote is NO :1orglaugh

Plus 1 dribbling spastic... :2 cents:

and NO... I DONT mean me.

Why would or how could it cause wars?? EGO is involved along with Testosterone.. How the hell do you think the US got into Iraq??

I voted for good, though I predict it'll be a 60-40 kind of poll in the end.

It's not US secrets that have been exposed. In fact, it's the direct opposite - it's everyone else's secrets. This last batch seems to be cables to and from the US State Department - the US talking about what it knows about other countries. In other words, If the Chinese ambassador in Germany likes fucking young boys in the anus, that's what has been exposed.

Gee, that's funny, because the first big batch released hundreds of thousands of documents about US military operations in the Middle East, and no big scandal has come out of it. Your saying the US military operates "above the law" and this seems not to be the case.

There's a movement that thinks the US is behind all of this. Seems all Wiki Leaks has is some low grade info including after action reports of military operations and then a bunch of stuff the US State Department can use to embarress other countries.

Makes you wonder doesn't it?

They used to be good, but have become bad. Nowadays, it's a very tiny step for them to get into the blackmailing business.

All it needs is another oil leak or an earthquake somewhere for the media to move on an everybody will be like wiki-who?

Hahah just as I thought:

Revealed: Assange ?rape? accuser linked to notorious CIA operative

:D

i hope wikileaks will go for yrs

41 : 14 not bad

BREAKING NEWS! WikiLeaks is going to release Santa's list of good and bad children!