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Steve Rupe 01-19-2018 10:11 PM

The government is shut down as of 9 minutes ago.
 
I am watching Cspan as the Senate is still in session.

onwebcam 01-19-2018 10:13 PM

OMG What am I going to do without my park rangers?

VRPdommy 01-19-2018 11:59 PM

Not Much will actually 'close'.
Even when they get past this, the next hurdle will be raising the debt ceiling to borrow the money they are not collecting in taxes anymore.
So, I expect 'FEES' to go up since they will not agree on what to cut.
Everything they ever told us of how important it is to move to a 'balanced budget' is out the window.
All credibility has been flushed down the drain.
Elect more independents ! Deny both a majority.
Things will actually change.

Paul Markham 01-20-2018 06:04 AM

Migrants cost money, especially with automation and Globalisation taking jobs.

What Governments should do is list what a migrant cost to live in the new country. Housing, Health, Education, Welfare, Wage compression, Unemployment of citizens, policing, courts, prisons, and more. Including the birth rate because as decent jobs disappear more children are eventually going to be a burden on those with jobs.

Democrats want as many excuses to allow people to stay. 700,000 people have a cost, what level of career will they have to achieve to contribute?

pimpmaster9000 01-20-2018 06:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Paul Markham (Post 22171117)
Migrants cost money, especially with automation and Globalisation taking jobs.

What Governments should do is list what a migrant cost to live in the new country. Housing, Health, Education, Welfare, Wage compression, Unemployment of citizens, policing, courts, prisons, and more. Including the birth rate because as decent jobs disappear more children are eventually going to be a burden on those with jobs.

Democrats want as many excuses to allow people to stay. 700,000 people have a cost, what level of career will they have to achieve to contribute?

paul the migrant hates migrants :1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

thommy 01-20-2018 06:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Paul Markham (Post 22171117)
Migrants cost money, especially with automation and Globalisation taking jobs.

What Governments should do is list what a migrant cost to live in the new country. Housing, Health, Education, Welfare, Wage compression, Unemployment of citizens, policing, courts, prisons, and more. Including the birth rate because as decent jobs disappear more children are eventually going to be a burden on those with jobs.

Democrats want as many excuses to allow people to stay. 700,000 people have a cost, what level of career will they have to achieve to contribute?

the point is that trump is simply a fucking liar.
this shutdown goes on his account. because he first agreed and than changed his mind again.

If you look through this interview with someone who knows him personally you might wake up.



i know it is long but it is very very interesting - well maybe not for lovers of alternative facts.

NewNick 01-20-2018 07:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by crucifissio (Post 22171159)
paul the migrant hates migrants :1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

Hypocracy at its finest.

Worst of all Paul is retired and riddled with very expensive diseases.

So Paul is not contributing a fucking thing, and draining his adopted countries healthcare system,.

crockett 01-20-2018 08:27 AM

Thanks Obama!

Sarn 01-20-2018 08:46 AM

not are the first time

ilnjscb 01-20-2018 09:20 AM

FUCK!!! Free holiday with pay for federal workers

thommy 01-20-2018 09:24 AM

I wonder if the russian trolls are also on holidays now after they reached their target to
push a monkey in the POTUS chair.

https://www.rferl.org/a/twitter-says.../28986363.html

crockett 01-20-2018 09:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by onwebcam (Post 22170910)
OMG What am I going to do without my park rangers?

All those illegals get a free pass now...

Paul Markham 01-20-2018 09:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by thommy (Post 22171177)
the point is that trump is simply a fucking liar.
this shutdown goes on his account. because he first agreed and than changed his mind again.

If you look through this interview with someone who knows him personally you might wake up.

i know it is long but it is very very interesting - well maybe not for lovers of alternative facts.

What I posted was for all countries taking in migrants. Wouldn't you like to know what it costs you as a German taxpayer to take in so many migrants?

brassmonkey 01-20-2018 09:33 AM

the sky is falling! oh wait it's raining...

Paul Markham 01-20-2018 09:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NewNick (Post 22171183)
Hypocracy at its finest.

Worst of all Paul is retired and riddled with very expensive diseases.

So Paul is not contributing a fucking thing, and draining his adopted countries healthcare system,.

I lived and worked here for over ten years. During that time I employed up to 8 people. So I paid my health insurance and employees. I also brought all my turnover into Czech.

Why do you keep thinking I'm like you, someone barely making a living?

Don't tell us what you do, prove it and show me. Everyone knows who I am.

Quote:

It's kind of like the people who admire Trump. They do it because they're pieces of shit too and couldn't recognize a person with integrity and class if he rented space up their ass. It's not their fault...it just makes perfect sense to like an asshole if you're also an asshole who agrees with their asshole views. (Bronco67. 8th Feb 2017)
Isn't it good policy to know what level of a person is trying to get into your country? As you say there are already lots of useless people already there.

https://assets.publishing.service.go..._1_960x640.jpg

Or don't you care as you don't pay much tax.

DraX 01-20-2018 09:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by crucifissio (Post 22171159)
paul the migrant hates migrants :1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

I doubt that very much, I do believe he despises politicians who made it all possible...:2 cents:

Not that you would understand.

RedFred 01-20-2018 09:52 AM

This is the first time ever a govt shutdown occurred where one party held all 3 branches of govt.

Acepimp 01-20-2018 10:23 AM

HAHA HAHA The clueless libs think the Schumer shutdown is Trumps fault! Wrong! Democrat votes were also needed and they failed like always!!

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DT8XgnrVMAAkjEc?format=jpg

:pimp

Sarn 01-20-2018 10:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by thommy (Post 22171348)
I wonder if the russian trolls are also on holidays now after they reached their target to
push a monkey in the POTUS chair.

https://www.rferl.org/a/twitter-says.../28986363.html

Trump 2020 :1orglaugh

NewNick 01-20-2018 10:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Paul Markham (Post 22171363)
I lived and worked here for over ten years. During that time I employed up to 8 people. So I paid my health insurance and employees. I also brought all my turnover into Czech.

Why do you keep thinking I'm like you, someone barely making a living?

Don't tell us what you do, prove it and show me. Everyone knows who I am.



Isn't it good policy to know what level of a person is trying to get into your country? As you say there are already lots of useless people already there.

https://assets.publishing.service.go..._1_960x640.jpg

Or don't you care as you don't pay much tax.

Paul, you are are potless failed pornogragher who never quite got the interwebs.

You had to move to a low cost country in order to have a reasonable standard of living. Which if you think about it is the ultimate insult to the migrants that you dispise. They are migrating in some cases just to stay alive. To escape war, famine, political persecution etc.

You migrated because you could get girls to drop their knickers cheaply. The irony.

With regards to my income and tax returns, I could buy and sell you a thousand times over.

Todays turnover for one of my companies will be more than your net worth.

Sarn 01-20-2018 10:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Acepimp (Post 22171429)
HAHA HAHA The clueless libs think the Schumer shutdown is Trumps fault! Wrong! Democrat votes were also needed and they failed like always!!
:pimp

sabotage - deliberately destroy, damage, or obstruct (something), especially for political or military advantage.

The Porn Nerd 01-20-2018 10:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RedFred (Post 22171381)
This is the first time ever a govt shutdown occurred where one party held all 3 branches of govt.

Pretty messed up huh? Repubs control everything and they can't get jack shit done. Pathetic.

Acepimp 01-20-2018 11:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Porn Nerd (Post 22171456)
Pretty messed up huh? Repubs control everything and they can't get jack shit done. Pathetic.

Do you not realize that's false? Or you're pushing the fake news narrative?

Democrat votes were also needed. The Democrats failed to deliver the needed votes.

:pimp

Rochard 01-20-2018 11:20 AM

Trump threaten to shut down the government in order to get his wall built...


thommy 01-20-2018 11:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Paul Markham (Post 22171357)
What I posted was for all countries taking in migrants. Wouldn't you like to know what it costs you as a German taxpayer to take in so many migrants?

would you like to know how prosper the german economy is with that ?

all what you praise here is already refuted when you look at the economy of Germany what did wrong in your eyes what they could do wrong. German debts are already on the way down and the social system is working better as in every other country.

out of that we did not CALL this refugees - ask the ones who are responsable for that.

thommy 01-20-2018 11:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Paul Markham (Post 22171363)

https://assets.publishing.service.go..._1_960x640.jpg

Or don't you care as you don't pay much tax.

paul i think you did not get one thing on all the charts you are posting.

ALL this spendings there are producing INCOMES on the other end.

spendings are just not good when a country need to borrow money for that and pay interest on it. but the ones who are guilty for that are not alive anymore.
those were people like you are. they did give a fuck in the future and looked just on the today problems.

sure you can resolve many things today when you let your children pay the bill. and this is what you are doing.

Bladewire 01-20-2018 11:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Acepimp (Post 22171501)
Do you not realize that's false? Or you're pushing the fake news narrative?

Democrat votes were also needed. The Democrats failed to deliver the needed votes.

You fucking idiot the GOP holds the majority in the House , the majority in the Senate and they hold the presidency. The GOP is, again, showing they are incapable of governing, filling key government vacancies, and negotiating. Trump FAILS again and little cunts like you run away with your hands flailing in the air lying and blaming people not in control of what your team is fucking up. What a fucking loser you are. Anyone would be stupid to hire you for any kind of work because you would take no responsibility for what you would fuck up and you'd blame someone else what a fucking loser.

The Porn Nerd 01-20-2018 11:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Acepimp (Post 22171501)
Do you not realize that's false? Or you're pushing the fake news narrative?

Democrat votes were also needed. The Democrats failed to deliver the needed votes.

:pimp

Oh I got it alright. The Repubs have the majority but do not have a Super Majority (thank God) so yes, Democrats are needed. But Repubs get to set the agenda, control the debate, control hearings, etc etc.

No wriggling out of this Trump people. If this were Obama and the Dems controlled all three branches of Gov't your heads would be exploding with rage. Now? Oh it's the DEMS fault. LOL

Again, pathetic.

thommy 01-20-2018 11:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Acepimp (Post 22171501)
Do you not realize that's false? Or you're pushing the fake news narrative?

Democrat votes were also needed. The Democrats failed to deliver the needed votes.

:pimp

donīt you idiot understand that your country is bankrupt already?

what a fuck should democrats vote for money toi build trumps wall when the country can not even pay the city park cleaners.

and did you possibly MISS that a number of republicans also did vote for the shutdown?

it is so funny to see from the far how an idiot is destroying the USA fueled by an even bigger bunch of idiots.

i was reading today a very good article about trumps first year in a german news site and the titel is that what the whole world thinks of him "The destroyer" - thereīs no better title for an article about your anti genius.

RedFred 01-20-2018 12:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bladewire (Post 22171552)
You fucking idiot the GOP holds the majority in the House , the majority in the Senate and they hold the presidency. The GOP is, again, showing they are incapable of governing, filling key government vacancies, and negotiating. Trump FAILS again and little cunts like you run away with your hands flailing in the air lying and blaming people not in control of what your team is fucking up. What a fucking loser you are. Anyone would be stupid to hire you for any kind of work because you would take no responsibility for what you would fuck up and you'd blame someone else what a fucking loser.


:1orglaugh :thumbsup

onwebcam 01-20-2018 12:22 PM

Dear morons, 60 votes are needed. Neither side has 60 votes.... I could care less if it stays this way throughout Trump's Presidency.. The federal government should only be providing "essential services" anyway.

Bladewire 01-20-2018 12:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by onwebcam (Post 22171606)
Dear morons, 60 votes are needed. Neither side has 60 votes.... I could care less if it stays this way throughout Trump's Presidency.. The federal government should only be providing "essential services" anyway.

Hey idiot even Republicans aren't supporting this that's why the GOP has a problem. Take responsibility for your shit loser when your side fucks up they fuck up own up to it bitch.

The Porn Nerd 01-20-2018 12:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by thommy (Post 22171567)
donīt you idiot understand that your country is bankrupt already?

what a fuck should democrats vote for money toi build trumps wall when the country can not even pay the city park cleaners.

and did you possibly MISS that a number of republicans also did vote for the shutdown?

it is so funny to see from the far how an idiot is destroying the USA fueled by an even bigger bunch of idiots.

i was reading today a very good article about trumps first year in a german news site and the titel is that what the whole world thinks of him "The destroyer" - thereīs no better title for an article about your anti genius.

Sometimes people get so wrapped up in "their Team" that they cannot think straight. Look at Futbol fans around the world. Going apeshit bananas over a 1-0 match. The match is more about National Pride and Patriotism than it is about the competition on the field.

So in America, when it comes to Politics, people argue for "their Team" regardless of right and wrong. Most Americans sadly think it's all about "winning" and defeating the other side like it's some kind of sports match. But it isn't. It should be about working together to make the country better. But nope. Both sides fight and argue trying to "win"...what exactly? What is the prize exactly? A "better America"? Ridiculous nonsense.

Geez, at least in a sporting event you get an actual winner/loser, some prize money and a fucking ring or medal. LOL

onwebcam 01-20-2018 12:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bladewire (Post 22171612)
Hey idiot even Republicans aren't supporting this that's why the GOP has a problem. Take responsibility for your shit loser when your side fucks up they fuck up own up to it bitch.

Several such as Rand Paul want even further budget cuts.. I'm all for that.. Essential services only... One example he gave was they spent $700 million determining whether Neil Armstrong said "One small step for man" or "One small step for a man"

They couldn't come to a conclusion.

Shut it down... Kill the waste... GET A REAL JOB..

Bladewire 01-20-2018 12:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by onwebcam (Post 22171618)
Several such as Rand Paul want even further budget cuts.. I'm all for that.. Essential services only... One example he gave was they spent $700 million determining whether Neil Armstrong said "One small step for man" or "One small step for a man"

They couldn't come to a conclusion.

Shut it down... Kill the waste... GET A REAL JOB..

Ohhhh poor wittle baby his team is losing so now he's gonna cwry wah wah wah you can use my dick as your pacifier bitch or shut the fuck up, act like a man, and take responsibility. You're so full of bullshit how do you even function in the world aside from collecting welfare, which the majority of rednecks in your state are on. Who you blame for your failures in life? Let me guess, you blame black people, Gay people, foreign people & muslims right? I bet you have all sorts of excuses and people to blame for why you don't live up to your potential in life. Nevermind you have no potential you're a born loser.

onwebcam 01-20-2018 12:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bladewire (Post 22171624)
Ohhhh poor wittle baby his team is losing so now he's gonna cwry wah wah wah you can use my dick as your pacifier bitch or shut the fuck up, act like a man, and take responsibility. You're so full of bullshit how do you even function in the world aside from your welfare check I'm surprised you csn even cash it without problems. Who you blame for your failures in life?

How is my team losing? I, my "team" wants smaller federal government, less government waste.. Appears I'm on the "winning" side right now.. The longer the shutdown continues the less money being drained from my wallet. Unfortunately, I have no doubt they will reach a compromise that will cost us ALL more money which makes us both on the losing side then....

RedFred 01-20-2018 12:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by onwebcam (Post 22171633)
How is my team losing? I, my "team" wants smaller federal government, less government waste.. Appears I'm on the "winning" side.. The longer the shutdown continues the less money being drained from my wallet.

You certainly are not the brightest. The last govt shutdown lasted 15 days and cost over $24 billion. Only dropout idiots thinks it's saving money.

Bladewire 01-20-2018 12:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by onwebcam (Post 22171633)
How is my team losing? I, my "team" wants smaller federal government, less government waste.. Appears I'm on the "winning" side right now.. The longer the shutdown continues the less money being drained from my wallet. Unfortunately I have no doubt they will reach a compromise that will cost us ALL more money which makes us both on the losing side then....

This is the problem with the people in your welfare & disability state, total denial & blame. No honor. No integrity. All you care about is getting a few more dollars on your benefits check and when your guys, the top 1% billionaires like Trump, fuck up the government & rob it's treasury, you blame the next guy in power. Typical Confederate cunt.

onwebcam 01-20-2018 12:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RedFred (Post 22171636)
You certainly are not the brightest. The last govt shutdown lasted 15 days and cost over $24 billion. Only dropout idiots thinks it's saving money.



Bullshit, they make a claim that it costs the economy X amount of dollars just so they can give reason as to why they need to tax and (over) spend.

My life and personal economy would be affected 0% by the shutdown.. The majority of American lives would not be affected. But you keep on being scared into believing it would, that's just what they want.

Bladewire 01-20-2018 01:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by onwebcam (Post 22171642)
Bullshit, they make a claim that it costs the economy X amount of dollars just so they can give reason as to why they need to tax and (over) spend.

My life and economy would be affected 0% by the shutdown..

Don't you have some roadkill to catch to make your dinner tonight? Get to it! Let us big boys talk politics while you go jerk off to Roy Moore porn, another loser on your team.

GAMEFINEST 01-20-2018 01:03 PM

If you depend on the govt
You are already fucked

RedFred 01-20-2018 01:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by onwebcam (Post 22171642)
Bullshit, they make a claim that it costs the economy X amount of dollars just so they can give reason as to why they need to tax and (over) spend.


Whatever you say Schleprock.


https://edwinstark.files.wordpress.c...ock2.jpg?w=930

Bladewire 01-20-2018 01:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by onwebcam (Post 22171642)
My life and personal economy would be affected 0% by the shutdown.. The majority of American lives would not be affected. But you keep on being scared into believing it would, that's just what they want.

Holy fuck you are a fucking moron to think the government shutting down will never affect you what a fucking idiot. And all the government employees not getting paid you don't give a shit about you don't even fucking care what a fucking loser. No offense

Bladewire 01-20-2018 01:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GAMEFINEST (Post 22171657)
If you depend on the govt
You are already fucked

When his disability check doesn't get deposited he'll be on here whining like a little bitch.

onwebcam 01-20-2018 01:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bladewire (Post 22171663)
Holy fuck you are a fucking moron to think the government shutting down will never affect you what a fucking idiot. And all the government employees not getting paid you don't give a shit about you don't even fucking care what a fucking loser. No offense

You're a dumb fuck for believing anything of real importance is actually being shut down... Go try and find anything that will actually affect you.. I'll be waiting.. That is unless you really are government funded TROLL.

Bladewire 01-20-2018 01:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by onwebcam (Post 22171678)
You're a dumb fuck for believing anything of real importance is actually being shut down... Go try and find anything that will actually affect you.. I'll be waiting.. That is unless you really are government funded TROLL.

The government affects you princess that's why you lick Trump's ass here every day because you want him to change it to benefit you. You're a fucking hypocrite to say the government doesn't affect you and the government shutting down doesn't affect you. A complete moron. No offense

You have no right to talk politics here if you think the government doesn't affect you. If the government affects you then the government shutting down affects you. It's simple logic.

Trump failed again at negotiating.

Trump failed again at making deals.

Trump failed and the government has shut down because of Trump's failure.

GOP government employees will not be getting paid if Trump's failure continues and the government shutdown continues. Do you understand that? Or is it just all about you and you don't care who Trump's failures hurt and who doesn't get paid and food put on their plate for their hard work.

onwebcam 01-20-2018 01:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bladewire (Post 22171684)
The government affects you princess that's why you lick Trump's ass here every day because you want him to change it to benefit you. You're a fucking hypocrite to say the government doesn't affect you and the government shutting down doesn't affect you. A complete moron. No offense

You have no right to talk politics here if you think the government doesn't affect you. If the government affects you then the government shutting down affects you. It's simple logic.

Listen here "boy" as you called yourself.. I'm going to say this once again. Nothing of any real importance gets shut down.. It's all wasteful (pork barrel) spending. Such as government funded non-profits paying trolls to frequent internet discussion boards. Or determining whether Armstrong used "a"

Bladewire 01-20-2018 01:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by onwebcam (Post 22171687)
Listen here "boy" as you called yourself.. I'm going to say this once again. Nothing of any real importance gets shut down.. It's all wasteful (pork barrel) spending. Such as government funded non-profits paying trolls to frequent internet discussion boards. Or determining whether Armstrong used "a"

You are really ignorant to facts.

Not paying people their hard-earned wages is wrong and immoral and Trump is doing that by shutting down the government.

Trump said Mexico will pay for the wall.

Trump now says the government will shut down until Americans pay for his wall.

Hard-working American government employees will not get paid because Trump wants Americans to pay for his wall.

Do you understand that?

What do you think the stock market's going to do on Monday if the government is still shut down?

What did the stock market do last time the government shut down?

RedFred 01-20-2018 01:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by onwebcam (Post 22171687)
Listen here "boy" as you called yourself.. I'm going to say this once again. Nothing of any real importance gets shut down.. It's all wasteful (pork barrel) spending. Such as government funded non-profits paying trolls to frequent internet discussion boards. Or determining whether Armstrong used "a"


Fucking moron doesn't even know what 'pork barrel spending' means. :1orglaugh

Pork barrel is a metaphor for the appropriation of government spending for localized projects secured solely or primarily to bring money to a representative's district.

Tell us genius, just how is maintaining National Parks 'pork barrel spending'? :1orglaugh

Jesus Christ you're stupid.

onwebcam 01-20-2018 01:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bladewire (Post 22171696)
You are really ignorant to facts.

Not paying people their hard-earned wages is wrong and immoral and Trump is doing that by shutting down the government.

Trump said Mexico will pay for the wall.

Trump now says the government will shut down until Americans pay for his wall.

Hard-working American government employees will not get paid because Trump wants Americans to pay for his wall.

Do you understand that?

What do you think the stock market's going to do on Monday if the government is still shut down?

What did the stock market do last time the government shut down?

Hard earned money? If you don't have a job you don't get paid.. If a company downsizes then people lose jobs.. It should be no different for government. If you don't have the funds then people lose jobs.. It's that simple.. If you think Trump voters give a flying fuck you are seriously mistaken.. He was voted into office for less government. Democrats just gave us much less. And Trump served it up on a silver plater. :1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh


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