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JustDaveXxx 10-07-2014 05:36 PM

******Hey Mike South.. Not cool! You need to check your facts before slamming a mans good name!!****
 
Come on dude!!

You can easily contact Mark Schechter and get his side or ask him if this is true or not true.


Answer this: Are you trying to get the truth or are you trying to slam and hurt a mans good name?


Mark is one of the most stand up guys in this business. He is a very honest and straight up business man. He doesn't burn or fuck people over. Everyone on GFY can back me up on this fact.


You need to get your facts straight and print a retraction immediately. Unless your point wasn't to get at the truth. I know your a better person than this. Please prove me right.



My challenge to you: I got 10K in an envelope if you can prove or get proof that Mark tried to exchange sex for agency photos.


If its true, should be easy to do. I will pay you and your female source. One thing I know, when there is money involved and the girls have real proof, they will step up and collect...



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ATMLA Has Been Ousted from LATATA A MikeSouth.com EXCLUSIVE!
By Mike South
October 6th, 2014
I had a feeling this was coming. Mark Schechter has been doing some really shady shit lately, I?m hearing stories of girls being forced to drop their rates by half or more and quitting the biz instead of staying with ATMLA.

Another girl was told it would cost her 300 dollars for new pictures for the ATMLA site or she could have sex with Mark and he wouldn?t charge her.

This is exactly the kind of thing that LATATA was formed to put a stop to and I think it is a good thing that they are stepping up, kudos to them for that.

There is an old saying that power corrupts and that absolute power corrupts absolutely. I would suggest to Mark Schechter that maybe he needs to do some reflecting on these things.

And let us not forget that Mark is on the Board of The Free Speech Coalition?.any surprise there? None for me. They are the single most corrupt organization this industry has ever had, they make Regan Senter and Beautiful Models Inc. look like a charity by comparison.

Everyone im porn in Los Angeles should be concerned about this, some producers are happy because they are getting boy girl scenes for half the rate the girls usually charge, but I maintain that it should be the girl that sets her rate not her agent.


And as for girls rates: If the rate being offered is lower than the girls actual rate, they are informed prior to accepting the gig. Every girls rate for BG is between $1000-$1200. I call that their Brazzers rate. I get fucked and pay that all of the time. But Porno Dan and others budgets are lower. Usually between $600-$900 for BG. This will be the same girl I paid $1200 for. (Not Kidding!!!)

Anyone can feel free to chime in.

Been good friends with Mark for almost 10 years. I know him and his wife very well. Can stake my to kids lives that this is not true. Somebody has a serious Axe to grind, and is using Mike South to do it.


Just Dave

PornHero 10-07-2014 05:38 PM

i bet this is gonna be a long thread.

TeenCat 10-07-2014 05:40 PM

big red font always says something is in the air :)

ReggieDurango 10-07-2014 05:42 PM

Gotta agree with JustDave on all of this. Mark is a good guy, not sure why Mike South printed all this without the facts.

dyna mo 10-07-2014 05:48 PM

atmla is still listed at latata as a licensed agency.........

Adam_M 10-07-2014 06:02 PM

You would hope Mike had real proof before posting something like that

mineistaken 10-07-2014 06:03 PM

Lets see the response!

mineistaken 10-07-2014 06:06 PM

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Originally Posted by JustDaveXxx (Post 20246485)
If its true, should be easy to do. I will pay you and your female source. One thing I know, when there is money involved and the girls have real proof, they will step up and collect...

Not taking sides, but what proof would that be? I mean if he really said - have sex with me and I will not charge you. How is it possible to have any proof of that, unless the girls was recording the convo.

Mediamix 10-07-2014 06:17 PM

This is how Mike South writes that stuff..
http://i.imgur.com/u3lWw.gif

Juicy D. Links 10-07-2014 06:37 PM

I am not wearing pants now

Dirty D 10-07-2014 06:48 PM

Captain Save a Ho strikes once again.

Consider the source, porn gossip isn't even worth .02 - lol

Grapesoda 10-07-2014 06:52 PM

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Originally Posted by ReggieDurango (Post 20246489)
Gotta agree with JustDave on all of this. Mark is a good guy, not sure why Mike South printed all this without the facts.

I deal with Mark on a daily basis just as I deal with the 'models on a daily basis... I'm going with Mark on this.... South has already proven that he will print anything regardless of truth.. :2 cents:

DeanCapture 10-07-2014 06:56 PM

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Originally Posted by JustDaveXxx (Post 20246485)
Been good friends with Mark for almost 10 years. I know him and his wife very well. Can stake my to kids lives that this is not true. Somebody has a serious Axe to grind, and is using Mike South to do it.

I don't know Mark that well but he's taken very good care of me since we've been working together. He's my "go-to" agent when I have a no show or last minute cancellation. He goes above & beyond to help me out .....even on Sundays!

I've shot a lot of his girls and have never had any issues with him and have only heard great things about him from his models that we've shot. I can't say this about all the agencies that I do business with but with ATMLA, never had an issue. :thumbsup

American Psycho 10-07-2014 07:00 PM

BREAKING news :

Porn agent guy tries to have sex with porn girl!!!!


OH MY GOLLY GEE what is becoming of this world we live in!

C H R I S 10-07-2014 07:11 PM

Parking here - ordering a beer.

JustDaveXxx 10-07-2014 07:15 PM

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Originally Posted by mineistaken (Post 20246504)
Not taking sides, but what proof would that be? I mean if he really said - have sex with me and I will not charge you. How is it possible to have any proof of that, unless the girls was recording the convo.

I got 10K saying there is no proof!! I know Mark. I know his wife. I know how he is as a person. What was written is not Mark!

Trust me, hypothetically if it was true, and a girl knew I had 10K for her to come forward, she would be contacting me directly with the proof and wanting the cash.


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Originally Posted by Mediamix (Post 20246513)
This is how Mike South writes that stuff..
http://i.imgur.com/u3lWw.gif


I like Mike, I get along with Mike pretty well, but this is just wrong on so many levels. People in the know, know who the source is.


Mike does a lot of good publicly calling people who are in the wrong out, but he is way off base on this one.



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Originally Posted by Dirty D (Post 20246533)
Captain Save a Ho strikes once again.

Consider the source, porn gossip isn't even worth .02 - lol


I agree with you, but Marks wife is a wonderful lady and beautiful person, he has kids and grandkids, this doesn't need to come up in a google search.



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Originally Posted by DeanCapture (Post 20246538)
I don't know Mark that well but he's taken very good care of me since we've been working together. He's my "go-to" agent when I have a no show or last minute cancellation. He goes above & beyond to help me out .....even on Sundays!

I've shot a lot of his girls and have never had any issues with him and have only heard great things about him from his models that we've shot. I can't say this about all the agencies that I do business with but with ATMLA, never had an issue. :thumbsup


That is what he is to me too. But in addition to this, I have been good friends with him for almost 10 years. Done a lot of business with him on the production side as well as on the agency side, been friends with him, etc; this is way unnecessary bullshit that nobody needs to deal with. Its just wrong and very sad.

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Originally Posted by American Psycho (Post 20246541)
BREAKING news :

Porn agent guy tries to have sex with porn girl!!!!


OH MY GOLLY GEE what is becoming of this world we live in!

Mark is way not that guy!!! Trust me!! I would 100% put my kids lives on that fact!!




Anyone and everyone who knows Mark please feel free to chime in.



Just Dave

NemesisEnforcer 10-07-2014 07:18 PM

Mike South should take a lesson from Luke Ford (back when he ran his gossip site). All it takes is the right person to take action against him.

mineistaken 10-07-2014 07:25 PM

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Originally Posted by JustDaveXxx (Post 20246550)
Trust me, hypothetically if it was true, and a girl knew I had 10K for her to come forward, she would be contacting me directly with the proof and wanting the cash.

But what proof might that be? It is not like she recorded the conversation and it is not like he laid out this offer on paper. So hypothetically if that was true she would not be able to produce any proof anyway..

marcop 10-07-2014 07:25 PM

My experience of dealing with Mark at ATMLA is right in line with Dean's, Brian's, and Dave's--he's been a pleasure to work with, and very professional.

I had lunch with another LA agent recently, and he told me there was friction between Mark and some of the other LATATA members--but it was along the lines of Mark being competitive towards the other agents, and not because of any unethical behavior on his part.

A few weeks ago, a former ATMLA girl who failed out of the business was spreading gossip about Mark and Kevin (another ATMLA agent) trying to fuck her, rip her off, etc. I wonder if it's the same girl who's now maligning Mark once again?

mikesouth 10-07-2014 08:02 PM

Some of you seem to be conflating my opinion with what is simply news...Opinion wise I dont think much of any of the agents...news wise when an agent gets booted from LATATA its news and you wont read it anyplace else...

xXXtesy10 10-07-2014 08:39 PM

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Originally Posted by mikesouth (Post 20246580)
Some of you seem to be conflating my opinion with what is simply news...Opinion wise I dont think much of any of the agents...news wise when an agent gets booted from LATATA its news and you wont read it anyplace else...

why you post Signbucks on site?

Porno Dan 10-07-2014 08:51 PM

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Originally Posted by mikesouth (Post 20246580)
Some of you seem to be conflating my opinion with what is simply news...Opinion wise I dont think much of any of the agents...news wise when an agent gets booted from LATATA its news and you wont read it anyplace else...

I agree you with that the FSC needs to oust their leadership and that if Mark wants to stay in LATATA he should resign from that organization. In addition, his issues with LATATA are newsworthy; however, adding in unfounded acquisitions to your story makes it seem sensationalized and it looks like you have a personal stake in this matter.

I release three new titles a week, more than anyone left standing in Porn Valley, so if anyone is qualified to talk about production it is me. We agree that as far as rates go it is up to the model what rate they charge, not the agent. Models saying they are 'forced' to take a lower rate isn't true, they can and do decline shoots. Models have to accept the fact there are less than 50 scenes a day shot in Los Angeles, down from a peak of over 200. As a result rates have fallen. For example my shoots take less than 1/3 time of some other companies, that is why my rates are lower.

When reporting something like Mark and LATATA it would behoove everyone involved if you stuck with the facts, not opinions or wild rumors.

mikesouth 10-07-2014 09:03 PM

I can only go by who goes on the record and what they say. There's obviously a lot involved in the LATATA Decision...a lot I dont know about admittedly specially considering I am told the decision was unanimous, although one person wasnt there to vote in person. In the end itll all work itself out....interesting though when I had Derek Hay in my sights nobody was defending him....

myjah 10-07-2014 09:22 PM

Mark is one of the good guys. This is absurd.

avalanche 10-07-2014 09:23 PM

Everyone knows where all this info is coming from.

I only ask that Mike start presenting all sides, as he said he would, which up to this point he has not. He has proven to be clearly biased. He's lost a lot of good followers due to this story.

Spunky 10-07-2014 09:27 PM

I think you need to meet in the sauna to exchange the beef

Porno Dan 10-07-2014 09:39 PM

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Originally Posted by mikesouth (Post 20246609)
I can only go by who goes on the record and what they say. There's obviously a lot involved in the LATATA Decision...a lot I dont know about admittedly specially considering I am told the decision was unanimous, although one person wasnt there to vote in person. In the end itll all work itself out....interesting though when I had Derek Hay in my sights nobody was defending him....

Tonight's vote on Mark in LATATA was deadlocked at 4 each, Robert from 101 was not present, so they will take this up again next month.

The main issue with Mark is his membership in the FSC.

These are facts, perhaps you can publish them tomorrow.

dicknipples 10-07-2014 09:53 PM

Does anyone even read Mike's site?

Rochard 10-07-2014 10:01 PM

I have no idea what this is about, but I've known Mark for years and never ever heard anyone speak badly of him.

Paully 10-07-2014 10:10 PM

Another fucking copy and paste job from Mike. Come on man. Make a fucking call, then maybe you can have two sides to the story, ever think of that shit? I don't know man but just might be crazy enough to work.

JayAllan 10-07-2014 10:12 PM

I have been dealing with Mark for many years. One of the hardest working, and most honest guys in the business. He and his wife have consistently proved they are both honest and trustworthy. He also repped my ex for many years (and still does)

Definitely a stand up guy. This "story" reeks of bullshit.

Mike you are going to need to clarify your article or face a lot of dissent from the people who count. :2 cents:

RTP 10-07-2014 11:33 PM

The article is funny. "It is also interesting that he apparently has no Drivers License." Pretty sure he had a license on him when he drove us to lunch last time I saw him and pretty sure I saw it when he paid (was his turn)...

Mike, nothing against you but this story is very off. You got beef with Mark just talk to him...seriously.

Mark is a great guy and has been around this business long enough to not fuck around, trust me he is in for pure profit and has an OCD level of detail with everything. There are many fucked up people in this business...many studio owners, some agents, and internet companies as we all know but Mark is one of the few stand-up guys.


:2 cents:

Ramster 10-08-2014 05:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Porno Dan (Post 20246601)
I agree you with that the FSC needs to oust their leadership and that if Mark wants to stay in LATATA he should resign from that organization. In addition, his issues with LATATA are newsworthy; however, adding in unfounded acquisitions to your story makes it seem sensationalized and it looks like you have a personal stake in this matter.

I release three new titles a week, more than anyone left standing in Porn Valley, so if anyone is qualified to talk about production it is me. We agree that as far as rates go it is up to the model what rate they charge, not the agent. Models saying they are 'forced' to take a lower rate isn't true, they can and do decline shoots. Models have to accept the fact there are less than 50 scenes a day shot in Los Angeles, down from a peak of over 200. As a result rates have fallen. For example my shoots take less than 1/3 time of some other companies, that is why my rates are lower.

When reporting something like Mark and LATATA it would behoove everyone involved if you stuck with the facts, not opinions or wild rumors.

THIS!

Mike can't say "I'm writing my opinion" yet "report" that Mark wanted to exchange sex for photos. It is simply not true, not the Mark I know. Like Dave I know him personally and his wife.

Roald 10-08-2014 06:02 AM

It's Mike South for god sake, it's an entertainment site, not a news site.

Ramster 10-08-2014 06:02 AM

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Originally Posted by mikesouth (Post 20246580)
Some of you seem to be conflating my opinion with what is simply news...Opinion wise I dont think much of any of the agents...news wise when an agent gets booted from LATATA its news and you wont read it anyplace else...

But you didn't just report on his LATATA dealings, you slandered his name as well just the hell of it.

If you ONLY Hear one side of the story then print the report, not slander against the guy unless you know it as fact. Your "facts" are likely some unhappy 19 year old wanting to make her agent look bad.

pornguy 10-08-2014 06:08 AM

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Originally Posted by ReggieDurango (Post 20246489)
Gotta agree with JustDave on all of this. Mark is a good guy, not sure why Mike South printed all this without the facts.

Same reason Main stream media does it. Sensationalism makes cash.

vdbucks 10-08-2014 06:22 AM

I don't have a dog in this fight either way, but is it really so surprising that a "journalist" would post false information they got from "anonymous sources"?

Turn to any "news" channel out there today and it's 90% bullshit made up by these so called "journalists" these days... nothing more than fodder for clicks and views.

So a note to everyone, unless sources and facts are provided, read everything a "journalist" writes as sheer bullshit, because 99.9999% of the time that is exactly what it is. Bullshit fodder for clicks in this case...

Grapesoda 10-08-2014 06:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Roald (Post 20246980)
It's Mike South for god sake, it's an entertainment site, not a news site.

YES.... BUT ms is NOT slandering your reputation :2 cents:

NemesisEnforcer 10-08-2014 06:34 AM

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Originally Posted by Roald (Post 20246980)
It's Mike South for god sake, it's an entertainment site, not a news site.

True, just below that of a satirical comic strip where you mostly laugh at the artist rather than laugh with him.

JFK 10-08-2014 06:52 AM

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Originally Posted by pornguy (Post 20246985)
Same reason Main stream media does it. Sensationalism makes cash.

and they get sued all the time :2 cents:

PAR 10-08-2014 06:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Ramster (Post 20246978)
THIS!

Mike can't say "I'm writing my opinion" yet "report" that Mark wanted to exchange sex for photos. It is simply not true, not the Mark I know. Like Dave I know him personally and his wife.

I totally can't see Mark doing this at all... Hands down one of the nicest guys in the biz and one of very few I trust completely.
Given the nature of the accusation you would think Mike would have checked why there was a LATATA vote, what was behind it and what the results were BEFORE going to print. Rather than skip any possible fact checking and draw magical line of correlation and causation.

From what Porno Dan posted it would seem at issue is only his connection to the FSC. Would have been easy enough to publish a post on that alone...

Google Expert 10-08-2014 07:06 AM

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Originally Posted by JustDaveXxx (Post 20246485)
Mark is one of the most stand up guys in this business.

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Originally Posted by ReggieDurango (Post 20246489)
Gotta agree with JustDave on all of this. Mark is a good guy.

:1orglaugh

Roald 10-08-2014 07:52 AM

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Originally Posted by Grapesoda (Post 20247015)
YES.... BUT ms is NOT slandering your reputation :2 cents:

I hear you but really does anyone still take him serious?

_Richard_ 10-08-2014 07:59 AM

Mark is good people.

PremiumPassJon 10-08-2014 08:02 AM

I don't post often on this board but felt the need to throw in my 2 cents... As a guy that was one of Mark's biggest competitors for many years (I used to own PremiumCash), I can say that he's one of the most stand up guys I've met in this business. Our companies were always in fierce competition signing models to web deals and he always acted like a true professional. After selling PremiumCash, i actually bought half of BlazingBucks and can tell you that one of the biggest assets that company possessed was Mark's goodwill...I have never heard someone say a bad word about him. Mark is a businessman and maybe that's something that the other agents in this industry fear...have you ever thought of that Mike South???

As for someone mentioning something about the $20 charge for testing being the reason for a vote being held to get Mark out of LATATA ...that is just plain laughable. Our companies shot a little north of 60 scenes last month and out of almost 140 talent bookings I was charged the $20 on 3 or 4 of them I believe...and have ONLY been charged this by 1 agent in the industry.

I really think that Mike South, at the very least owes Mark a call to get his side of all this because I really feel that this could damage the credibility of your blog... I can assure you this thread will go on and on with people who have known Mark for years and you will be hard pressed to find 1 person to say a bad thing about him...remember credibility is like virginity ...once you lose it, you can never get it back.

scuba steve 10-08-2014 08:11 AM

this isn't journalism. this is for attention. and the worst part is all these accusations you're slinging around you're trying to cover up by saying it's "news" cause he might be voted out? the fucked up part is now his name will be tied to all this bs you're writing. real journalists check their source's information

like everyone already said, he's one of the last good guys in this business. don't try to fuck that up. and i don't even know anyone else in this thread personally so i'm not taking sides or biased. dealt with him before he was even with atmla, and he was just as stand up back then with blazing.

baddog 10-08-2014 08:21 AM

Has South ever relied on facts? Why would he start now?

mikesouth 10-08-2014 08:24 AM

ATMLA, Kicking The Hornets Nest
By Mike South
October 8th, 2014

It’s been a long time since I it a topic that has sparked as much debate as this one, from twitter to GFY and beyond ATMLA is the talk of the town and there isn’t much neutral ground.

In the end ATMLA is currently out of LATATA by a majority vote, in a month they could be re-admitted though it seems doubtful. The Big Issues with LATATA seem to be Mark Schechters methods to bring the organization closer to The Free Speech Coalition and his practice of way undercutting talent rates.

On the directors side Mark seems to have strong support, most of them like him, their detractors say its because they are getting boy girl scenes from him for as low as 400 or 500 dollars.

On the talent side most do not like him, saying he strong arms them to accept lower rates, that they are getting harassed in his model house, that he is sending them on BDSM shoots without fully explaining what they will be subjected to and that the percentage he charges is too high in order to make up the lost money for cutting their rates. Their detractors say hey this is simply the economics of the time and talent is bitter because less work being available acts to drive down prices.

Fans and outside observers generally dont like agencies altogether, suggesting that talent should self book and avoid them altogether. They also seem to think that the agencies push the girls into prostitution.

It will all shake out in the end ut as evidenced by the responses to the article it is something that prolly needed to be talked about…

baddog 10-08-2014 08:27 AM

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Fans and outside observers generally dont like agencies altogether, suggesting that talent should self book and avoid them altogether.
Really? Fans know of and give a flying fuck about how content is booked? I presume you have a link to this revelation.

Sly 10-08-2014 08:31 AM

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Originally Posted by baddog (Post 20247140)
Really? Fans know of and give a flying fuck about how content is booked? I presume you have a link to this revelation.

500 anonymous fans have emailed him. That's how it usually goes, right?


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