FACT: IBill is back as Segpay!
 

Below you will see how Segpay has the same address/location as ibill, and how the CEO of segpay (chris williams) is also the domain registrant of inteca, their "trusted 3rd party" (they promote that their payments are safe because "Segregated Payments partners with Inteca to move your money directly from the acquiring bank into a segregated account where your funds are physically held until paid out to you. This means that those funds are not being 'borrowed' to pay other clients or used in any way.")

Segway = Toccata
Toccata Ltd is a U.K. financial services company formed in 1999 to provide currency exchange products to ecommerce merchants. ( http://segpay.com/about.htm)

address of toccata:
TOCCATA, Inc.
2200 SW 10th St.
Deerfield Beach, FL 33442
(http://web.archive.org/web/200306182.../frameset6.htm )


address of ibill:
C. iBill allows you to access to certain information about you for the limited purpose of viewing, updating, and in some instances deleting from our system any information deemed inaccurate. Any requests to access your information may be directed to: [email protected], Office of the General Counsel, Internet Billing Company, Ltd., 2200 SW 10th Street, Deerfield Beach, FL 33442-7622, Fax. 954.363.4401, and Tel. 954.363.4400 .(http://www.ibill.com/about/privacy.cfm)


Chris Williams is CEO of Toccata/segpay (http://www.internetnews.com/ec-news/article.php/28681 ) and toccata.com is registered in his name. Chris Williams is also the registrant of inteca.org, now the "3rd party trustee" for ibill/segpay and inteca.org and toccata.com go to the same IP:

Toccata = Inteca (same ip address)
Tracing route to inteca.org [209.61.190.42]
Tracing route to toccata.com [209.61.190.42]


HOLLA

lukeford?

:1orglaugh :1orglaugh :1orglaugh :1orglaugh :1orglaugh :1orglaugh

not sure, but regardless, i;d like to know if they tried to get back in.

It was pretty obvious that Inteca was Ibill. The two sites looked identical.

Fuck Ibill
 

Fucking ball sucking C-U-N-T-s

your giving him too much credit

any comment from ibill on this? mike sperber/sperbonzo?

grest work.... really
But then again - why should they not get a second chance? thig might have learned something from going down

I hate Ibill they fucking suk azz!!!!!!!!!!!! They owe me over $ 8k!

thanks, i had some help from this thread:
ibill is toccata.com

would you trust your mony to a company that is stupid enough to not hide their trail better than this? the names toccata and inteca were both on much communications from ibill

I dont think they are trying to hide it - that is not possible, and they know it. and im pretty sure they have answers ready for all the Ibill relates questions they are getting now. Should they have put a article on the frontpage saying "hey - we are the old Ibill, butwe lost all the money"? no.. I dont think they could have done it any other way

i lost some $ with them

but i made alot with them.....alot

so, whatever

Hasn't this been dealt with already?

I'm fairly sure I remember in an older thread that Mr. Williams used to have office space at that location. I also believe he was responsible for a lot of the positive things iBill used to stand for. Somebody else can search the archives, I can't be bothered.

Inteca's reputation should stand on how many webmasters managed to get their money because of Inteca in spite of the iBill mistakes.

Somebody else look it up, I for one welcome as many players as possible in the financial space of adult. Heaven forbid it comes down to just one, you're even more fucked at that point.

Didn't Inteca end up paying everybody that was owed? (by iBill EU) If not, there should be more threads about it you'd think.

I got a spam mail today from Michael Sperber. Didn't he used to work for IBill?

Fucking get over it already & move the fuck on.

iBill deserves to be in my sig with the rest of the scumbags.

then why isnt it ;)

We got paid but not the full amount owed.

What I don't get is why if Segpay really is Ibill EU did they force everone to move to Gkard?

If you are an Ibill EU client and you haven't changed your join pages to Gkard all you can process at the moment is Discover Card.

A little guidance guys....I don't think anyone wanted to be moved to Gkard, or understands what is going on.

Hmmm.

If they want to escape their bad reputation by starting over, why aren´t they covering their tracks?

Show us the money....

If this is true...

because many in this industry seem to have disturbingly short memories, if the past is any indication... and all it takes is the promise of another weekly wire/check/whatever for some, no matter how dirty the hand may be.

fuck TransCharge/Lacelot/WamiBill/Globill/iBill/inteca/Segpay..

Yup.

Some asshat rep from that company contacted me when I was looking for porcessing. I ask them if they were linked to Ibill. I was told:

"no, but I used to work for Ibill before they started ripping off webmasters"

Conversation over, have a nice day.

-N

"Seg" means "slow" in swedish. Segpay=slowpayments.
Yepp, sound like iBill for sure :thumbsup

yea, where do you think the owners/employees of these defunct companies go. all of the suddem a new processor pops up and knows how to process for adult, where do they come? not out of thin air

no comment?

no, for Duocash - Ibill was just about to add Duocash as a billing possibility when they exploded.

got that email too

now let's see if ibill pays on there promisary notes in 2 years.

No, they didn't pay everyone...far from it. There are numerous lawsuits pending as well as a lot of folks who have just accepted that they aren't getting paid and moved on.


Cheyenne

I thought it would have been good news????

They all come back

maybe it makes you feel better if I tell you that they owe me the double (excl all my lost rebills) :mad:

why do you say that?

I ain't gotta say much but doubt there is much love lost between Inteca and iBill. It's a matter of working with the shit tools you have - and they are shit tools as far as iBill is concerned.

It's a biz and ya gotta grab the good and bad and get a solution out of it, - but as far as iBill or Gkard is concerned - they are mud.

Are you saying iBill is mud, or Inteca? It reads as the latter. You do gotta say much, this is a gossip board.

From what I had heard, IBill's offices in Florida were up for lease like a month ago. Not saying that these people aren't IBill but from what I understood, they had moved out of that building or were in the process of it.

lol its your money dumbass... they charged you for every penny they could.. 25% hight i might add..


what you made you deserved... and you deserved even more..

ibill sucks.com

looks like that didn't happen....


So anyone have any proof of who worked at ibill that now works at Segpay?

A bump for a thread that is almost 2.5 yeas old?

yes. (8chars)

Yeah, I see why now.

the guy who started this thread makes some interesting points.

losing the rebills was terrible

i remembered this thread earlier today

:(:(:(...............

im slow. :winkwink:


its nice when the Search function works.

tears lies.

yeah was already obvious no way we will ever deal with seg after the whole ibill misery, everyone lost serious $ in that

One of ibill's managers now works for segpay, he tried to contact us.