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Tapaz 09-10-2010 11:04 AM

Payoneer the only alternative , some questions here..
 
I just looked around and found out payoneer is the only alternative at epass. So well I opened one with a ID number. Semms that the only thing needed is this one beside your address and general data . So there are many differences from e pass.. and I also foind this statement in their FAQ's :

This card allows a total limit of $10,000. A daily spending limit is set at $5,000. Daily cash withdrawal limit, both at ATM and bank teller, is set to $2,500. Example: After making a $1,500 cash withdrawal, the card can be used for a POS purchase of up to $2,500 within the same day.

10.000 month or ???? I cant understand ... also do we need to send them any document ? i didnt got my card yet and not activated it yet so I dont know if they are going to ask me further documents... some one can answer me ? Could be nice to have some official representer here on our board.

mizmiz 09-10-2010 11:33 AM

Now all we need is to all sponsors to start paying using payoneer

chronig 09-10-2010 11:37 AM

okpay.com also looks good

ajrocks 09-10-2010 12:47 PM

We need affiliates to decide what they want to be paid by. Everyone wants Pay Pal so far which is nuts because they don't do adult business. If enough people stand behind it, thats what will be used. Right now there are too many options being tossed around. Affiliate programs have no idea which to go with to make the most affiliates happy at this point

2intense 09-10-2010 12:53 PM

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Originally Posted by chronig (Post 17489058)
okpay.com also looks good

yes looks very good

2intense 09-10-2010 12:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mizmiz (Post 17489034)
Now all we need is to all sponsors to start paying using payoneer

most of them start already

mikke 09-10-2010 12:55 PM

okpay looks pretty good!!

PGR 09-10-2010 01:15 PM

Well I just signed up for a Payoneer account via Pussycash. Hopefully it doesn't take too long to receive my debit card.

2intense 09-10-2010 01:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by P.G.R. (Post 17489470)
Well I just signed up for a Payoneer account via Pussycash. Hopefully it doesn't take too long to receive my debit card.

Please note that it can take up to 10 business days to receive the Prepaid debit MasterCard card within the U.S. and up to 25 business days for delivery outside of the U.S.

DaddyzHome 09-10-2010 01:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ajrocks (Post 17489356)
We need affiliates to decide what they want to be paid by. Everyone wants Pay Pal so far which is nuts because they don't do adult business. If enough people stand behind it, thats what will be used.

Are you sure? Thought they changed their terms awhile back. Nothing on their acceptable use policy or user agreement states adult transactions are not allowed.

Paypal Acceptable Use Policy

Paypal User Agreement; Restricted Activities

baddog 09-10-2010 01:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tapaz (Post 17488922)

This card allows a total limit of $10,000.

I would take it to mean that it is a pre-loaded card that can not be loaded with more than a cumulative total of $10k.

What was unclear to me is if each sponsor would have to give you their own card. So if you used 25 sponsors, you would have 25 cards. Maybe someone can answer that question.

CaptainHowdy 09-10-2010 01:23 PM

I want one :pimp!

baddog 09-10-2010 01:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ajrocks (Post 17489356)
We need affiliates to decide what they want to be paid by. Everyone wants Pay Pal so far which is nuts because they don't do adult business. If enough people stand behind it, thats what will be used. Right now there are too many options being tossed around. Affiliate programs have no idea which to go with to make the most affiliates happy at this point

I don't think you can sell porn with paypal, but you might be able to pay affiliates with it. At least, that is the impression I am left with.

Klen 09-10-2010 01:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ajrocks (Post 17489356)
We need affiliates to decide what they want to be paid by. Everyone wants Pay Pal so far which is nuts because they don't do adult business. If enough people stand behind it, thats what will be used. Right now there are too many options being tossed around. Affiliate programs have no idea which to go with to make the most affiliates happy at this point

Well i dont want to be paid to paypal :) But you can use paypal if you get special permission from them,ask dukedollars how they did it,i received payment from them on paypal and there was no any problem.

spacedog 09-10-2010 01:40 PM

There's a thread somewhere here where user asked sponsor X if he can get paid from them using payoneer on card he got from sponsor Y. The answer was NO, because the acct was from sponsor X and not sponsor Y..

SO.. how does this payoneer work if payout can only be from single program?

Is this single program limit still applicable if I sign up for my own card instead of via cash program?

PGR 09-10-2010 01:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by spacedog (Post 17489578)
There's a thread somewhere here where user asked sponsor X if he can get paid from them using payoneer on card he got from sponsor Y. The answer was NO, because the acct was from sponsor X and not sponsor Y..

SO.. how does this payoneer work if payout can only be from single program?

Is this single program limit still applicable if I sign up for my own card instead of via cash program?

Surely there is a way to link multiple sponsors to a single card?

baddog 09-10-2010 01:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by P.G.R. (Post 17489615)
Surely there is a way to link multiple sponsors to a single card?

Why surely?

Darkcrni 09-10-2010 01:51 PM

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Originally Posted by mikke (Post 17489400)
okpay looks pretty good!!


They are doing offshore gambling, i think!

So its out of the question for anyone in the US!!!

ContentPimp 09-10-2010 01:51 PM

Payoneer has really high fees okPay looks better

PGR 09-10-2010 01:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by baddog (Post 17489620)
Why surely?

Why do you have to be a dick?

PGR 09-10-2010 01:53 PM

It seems like there is a way to link sponsors to a single card, but you have to input your card number, and since I don't have one yet, I can't try it.

baddog 09-10-2010 01:54 PM

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Originally Posted by P.G.R. (Post 17489629)
Why do you have to be a dick?

I asked you a simple question. Why not answer it since you are so sure?

nikki99 09-10-2010 02:24 PM

burrrrp, sorry....

livesexoncams 09-10-2010 02:32 PM

Indeed, payoneer fees are a bit higher than epassporte, but it seems that most of the sponsors are starting to be able to send payoneer payments. Also, payoneer is in business for quite a while, even if, from my understanding, the card are issued by a quite obscure bank.

Dreamteam 09-10-2010 02:34 PM

okpay = "MAX" $5000 total balance

WAAY too low ...

Even $10.000 (payoneer) is too low

..

halfpint 09-10-2010 02:37 PM

I have a payoneer card which I signed up for when it first came out and was under the impression that it worked the same way as epass with sponsors, but looking at the card it actually has the sponsers name on the front of the card, so I guess it can only be used for that specific sponsor

The Payoneers card is also not Visa its Master Card

I have never yet used it still to this day cause I always used epass

bolsex 09-10-2010 02:39 PM

Yeah! Payoneer fees are high, but I think that its less expensive for international webmasters than get a Wire or Check.

People can use the same card with +1 sponsor (I did, I linked FriendFinder, Gamma, PussyCash to the same card issued thro AWE).

The daily limit is great! $2.500 for ATM and $2.500 for purchases! Its about 8 times more than the standard epass account.
Documents are not required. At least they didnt requested me anything.

And I think that the $10k limit is not monthly, I think is not allowed to get +10k at the same time loaded on the card!

Damian

baddog 09-10-2010 02:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dreamteam (Post 17489792)
okpay = "MAX" $5000 total balance

WAAY too low ...

Even $10.000 (payoneer) is too low

..

For people that want to use it as a bank, there will be a problem. Of course, that is what got a lot of people in their current situation, but they do not see it that way.

bolsex 09-10-2010 02:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by halfpint (Post 17489801)
I have a payoneer card which I signed up for when it first came out and was under the impression that it worked the same way as epass with sponsors, but looking at the card it actually has the sponsers name on the front of the card, so I guess it can only be used for that specific sponsor

The Payoneers card is also not Visa its Master Card

I have never yet used it still to this day cause I always used epass

Did you get the new payoneer card?
They changed the bank (or something like that) and changed all co-branded / sponsored cards for a new standard with the logo of Choice Bank LTD.

halfpint 09-10-2010 02:42 PM

This kinda bothered me when they did not ask for ID. Will this end the same as epass ?

bolsex 09-10-2010 02:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by halfpint (Post 17489822)
This kinda bothered me when they did not ask for ID. Will this end the same as epass ?

This bothered me too! I remember some years ago when you was allowed to get a mastercard debit card, sometimes with name, sometimes offshore, without any ID and where you put +10k from AlertPay, eGold, etc...

All these companies/banks are now out of business!

halfpint 09-10-2010 02:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bolsex (Post 17489819)
Did you get the new payoneer card?
They changed the bank (or something like that) and changed all co-branded / sponsored cards for a new standard with the logo of Choice Bank LTD.

No I havent as mine only runs out in 2011 so I guess I will get the new card then

Dreamteam 09-10-2010 02:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by baddog (Post 17489814)
For people that want to use it as a bank, there will be a problem. Of course, that is what got a lot of people in their current situation, but they do not see it that way.

So when a sponsor wants to pay me $14.000 for this month payout then it is a "no no" ??
Don't tell me that for those amounts I need to ask for a wire. I want to make my own choices.

2intense 09-10-2010 02:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by halfpint (Post 17489801)
so I guess it can only be used for that specific sponsor

nope,1 card is enough

nikki99 09-10-2010 02:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by halfpint (Post 17489822)
this kinda bothered me when they did not ask for id. Will this end the same as epass ?


yes
.............

bolsex 09-10-2010 02:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by halfpint (Post 17489833)
No I havent as mine only runs out in 2011 so I guess I will get the new card then

mmm hope it works too, Im not sure. I got mine in March and a few weeks later I got an email telling me about the new card.

You can login to your account, and check if the Card number is Ok or is red. If is red maybe you need to contact customer service!
If you got the card recently so I think it will work.

bolsex 09-10-2010 02:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dreamteam (Post 17489834)
So when a sponsor wants to pay me $14.000 for this month payout then it is a "no no" ??
Don't tell me that for those amounts I need to ask for a wire. I want to make my own choices.

This is a good question. I will submit a support ticket with this question. I think they will not refuse the load.

baddog 09-10-2010 02:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dreamteam (Post 17489834)
So when a sponsor wants to pay me $14.000 for this month payout then it is a "no no" ??
Don't tell me that for those amounts I need to ask for a wire. I want to make my own choices.

You will have to ask them rather than relying on speculation from me or any other GFYer. But the way I read it, you could not get $14k in one deposit.

The way I read it is that if you had a card balance of $5k and a sponsor wanted to add $14k to it, they could only add $5k, which would bring you to the max, $10k limit.

halfpint 09-10-2010 02:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bolsex (Post 17489830)
This bothered me too! I remember some years ago when you was allowed to get a mastercard debit card, sometimes with name, sometimes offshore, without any ID and where you put +10k from AlertPay, eGold, etc...

All these companies/banks are now out of business!

Yep... I have nothing at all against payoneer but that did just kinda seem strange not needing any ID

fuzebox 09-10-2010 03:05 PM

Yes, you can link several sponsors on one card, when you click through to payoneer to signup for a new card with your second sponsor, there will be a link saying "click here if you already have a payoneer card".

As for holding over $10k on the card at a given time... Come on people, use wire transfers. Don't want it in your USA bank? Open an offshore account. It's not difficult or even expensive, and at least your money will be with a real big-boy bank.


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