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fris 10-15-2009 08:37 PM

google pagerank demoted
 
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Google PageRank, which has caused its fair share of excitement, disappointment, worry and FUD over the years, finally seems to be on its way out.

Although Google has been telling people not to treat its public PR scores as an all-important metric for some time, the statistic has now been dropped from the Webmaster Tools.
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Google employee Susan Moskwa says:

We?ve been telling people for a long time that they shouldn?t focus on PageRank so much; many site owners seem to think it?s the most important metric for them to track, which is simply not true. We removed it because we felt it was silly to tell people not to think about it, but then to show them the data, implying that they should look at it
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PageRank is still displayed on the Google toolbar, so it?s perhaps not a completely redundant measure just yet, but it certainly shouldn?t hold any real weight for those serious about SEO and the health of their web site.
link --> http://www.blogherald.com/2009/10/15...ns-on-toolbar/

digitaldivas 10-15-2009 08:41 PM

...it's pretty true. thanks for sharing

Basic_man 10-15-2009 08:45 PM

SIG SPOT! Link seller will go bankrupt!!! Mouhahaha

~Ray 10-15-2009 08:50 PM

Many people here need to read this thread. Lots of "SEO" experts here live and breathe pagrank.

~Ray

woj 10-15-2009 08:51 PM

[ timeline pic ] :)

CYF 10-15-2009 09:01 PM

interesting turn of events. I never really placed much weight on pagerank myself.

Fob 10-15-2009 10:30 PM

dang, now that toolbar is useless...

epitome 10-15-2009 10:33 PM

I've always put more effort into building relevant links in than PR.

Jdoughs 10-15-2009 10:34 PM

"never believe shit Google tells you"

Oh wait, except now, now believe it.

alias 10-15-2009 10:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Fob (Post 16433532)
dang, now that toolbar is useless...

:1orglaugh

bDok 10-15-2009 10:46 PM

oh but how now am I suppose to sell pr 4 links in bulk to n00bs?!?! :)

Jdoughs 10-15-2009 10:48 PM

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Originally Posted by bDok (Post 16433561)
oh but how now am I suppose to sell pr 4 links in bulk to n00bs?!?! :)

Don't worry, nothing has changed. All that articles says is that its been removed from google webmaster tools where it lists your sites highest PR pages.

Iron Fist 10-15-2009 11:06 PM

I've had my PR 3 sites go to PR 0 and back to PR 2 with no loss of traffic, or any change in keywords...

Pagerank is retarded and the people who preach it are retarded as well.

flip.green 10-15-2009 11:15 PM

I stopped paying attention once they capped the PR of porn sites

Iron Fist 10-15-2009 11:18 PM

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Originally Posted by flip.green (Post 16433610)
I stopped paying attention once they capped the PR of porn sites

Yeah this is true as well... the cap is pr4 or pr3.. I can't remember which it is.. not that I really care anyways.

Jdoughs 10-15-2009 11:21 PM

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Originally Posted by flip.green (Post 16433610)
I stopped paying attention once they capped the PR of porn sites

No such thing exists.

aniloscash 10-15-2009 11:24 PM

I'm offering a discount on my pr5 domain if anyone wants to buy it

LeRoy 10-15-2009 11:27 PM

Yah I dumped my Google tool bar early this year :thumbsup

Iron Fist 10-15-2009 11:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Jdoughs (Post 16433619)
No such thing exists.

Show me a PR8 porn site. Seriously... because no such thing exists. :2 cents:

Jdoughs 10-15-2009 11:41 PM

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Originally Posted by sharphead (Post 16433632)
Show me a PR8 porn site. Seriously... because no such thing exists. :2 cents:

pr3, pr4, pr8

So which one is it?

I never said there was a PR8 porn site, what I said is that there is no 'cap' on Page Rank for adult sites as you so 'matter of factly' stated.

sex69 10-15-2009 11:43 PM

I agree that there is a cap on porn sites. I think they needed it in some algos

TheDA 10-16-2009 01:06 AM

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Originally Posted by sharphead (Post 16433615)
Yeah this is true as well... the cap is pr4 or pr3.. I can't remember which it is.. not that I really care anyways.

Well I can tell you it's not 4 and it's not 3.

martinsc 10-16-2009 01:38 AM

:2 cents::pimp

Davy 10-16-2009 03:06 AM

Pagerank always sucked.
I have a forum and most forum's will have more outgoing than incoming links.
So I have thousands of pages indexed, and nice traffic. But google still says it's a pagerank 2.
Pagerank is only nice-to-have if you are selling something, like hardlinks.

seeandsee 10-16-2009 03:14 AM

PR is not sending traffic

Si 10-16-2009 04:05 AM

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Originally Posted by sharphead (Post 16433615)
Yeah this is true as well... the cap is pr4 or pr3.. I can't remember which it is.. not that I really care anyways.

It's 5

But doesn't matter a whole lot anyway :2 cents:

I stopped caring about pagerank when the tables turned on PR to traffic ratio (if that makes sense)

When I first started building sites, the one's with higher PR had Higher traffic, now it seems pretty much round the other way with a few excemptions.

Haven't checked my Pageranks for ages.........

Sarah_Jayne 10-16-2009 04:14 AM

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Originally Posted by Fob (Post 16433532)
dang, now that toolbar is useless...

Pretty much true..more or less the only reason I have it installed.

alias 10-16-2009 04:15 AM

Do not see many pr5 adult sites around. I had a pr4 but it dropped down, meh.

nikad 10-16-2009 04:17 AM

Links are not just for PR, I think that is secondary, links are for relevancy and link popularity... if you have good content, and a popular site with good links, you might become more and more authoritative in G terms, so you will get better serps and consequently more traffic and $ ( this in response to the " linksellers are dead now " )

Si 10-16-2009 04:30 AM

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Originally Posted by nikad (Post 16434010)
Links are not just for PR, I think that is secondary, links are for relevancy and link popularity... if you have good content, and a popular site with good links, you might become more and more authoritative in G terms, so you will get better serps and consequently more traffic and $ ( this in response to the " linksellers are dead now " )

:2 cents::thumbsup:2 cents:

BlackCrayon 10-16-2009 05:37 AM

it does serve some use. i use it daily. i hope they don't do away with it.

Nicky 10-16-2009 05:44 AM

I don't put that much weight Into It.

mopek1 10-16-2009 06:05 AM

So if you buy a backlink and the PR is 0 or the toolbar is grayed-out does that mean the link is still good? Will google recognize that link coming into your site?

nikad 10-16-2009 06:16 AM

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Originally Posted by mopek1 (Post 16434167)
So if you buy a backlink and the PR is 0 or the toolbar is grayed-out does that mean the link is still good? Will google recognize that link coming into your site?

I believe that link would still be good. Think of what would happen in real life ( without any SEO working for a site, buying or getting links etc ) you could not prevent people with small, or new sites from linking to you ( how could you? ) Imho having a % of pr0 links is healthy and makes the site look natural. G hates patterns and I think their algo is not a simple 100 pr4, 2000 pr2, 10000 pr1 ;) What gives a site authority is a combination of things.

I would watch for banned sites, etc, but shouldn´t be ultra strict about it either, to preserver the " natural " appearance of the site. Also when buying links one has to be able to poderate the potential, if it is a pr0 with lots of potential, I would pay good money for it, if it is just a flat pr0 no traffic, etc then it would be a different price and so on.

That is why it gets difficult to price links individually, you have to consider traffic, age, link pop, serp, pr, and am sure other things too.

nico-t 10-16-2009 06:39 AM

google says it doesnt mean anything but they dont completely remove it and its still the case that the biggest sites have the highest pr and the smallest the lowest.... how is that for 'it doesnt mean anything'? Funny.

Pleasurepays 10-16-2009 08:32 AM

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Originally Posted by sharphead (Post 16433632)
Show me a PR8 porn site. Seriously... because no such thing exists. :2 cents:

naughty.com is a pr7

you guys are all lunatics... and seem to have no idea what pagerank even is, what it measures, how its used or why it will always be important.

~Ray 10-16-2009 11:00 AM

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Originally Posted by Pleasurepays (Post 16434541)
naughty.com is a pr7

you guys are all lunatics... and seem to have no idea what pagerank even is, what it measures, how its used or why it will always be important.


most of us spend our time getting search engine ranks rather than getting hung-up on pagerank.

~Ray

CyberHustler 10-16-2009 11:03 AM

:1orglaugh

Agent 488 10-16-2009 12:06 PM

they haven't updated page rank for along time. i think they might be killing it.

Agent 488 10-16-2009 12:09 PM

i mean public displays of it. page rank will always be the basis of their algo. of course those who fail at google always say different as well as mainstream seo hucksters.


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