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Vendot 10-06-2009 11:26 AM

Majority Of Americans Support Attack On Iran
 
http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?p...d=aNvqCq5beGAE

Well damn. WHAT IS WRONG WITH YOU PEOPLE?!!?!?!?!?!?!?

Havent you learned your lesson yet?!?!?!?!?

FARMER DOOD: "Well Son, get ur cotton pickin ass out of the hay barn, we need to attack I-ran"

SON: "YEAH, LETS DO IT MAN!!"

2012 10-06-2009 11:28 AM

another reason to abandon all hope ...

PastorSinAlot 10-06-2009 11:28 AM

Iran needs to blown the fuck up, these fools will attack

MetaMan 10-06-2009 11:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PastorSinAlot (Post 16401325)
Iran needs to blown the fuck up, these fools will attack

Says who?

you need to stop listening to propaganda, have you not learnt anything?

some of you people are idiots. war is no joke.

and until you are ready to go off and fight yourself or send a child of yours to do so STFU.

Cyber Fucker 10-06-2009 11:31 AM

I can't believe it, maybe the rapport it's falsified? Are people really that fool?

MetaMan 10-06-2009 11:32 AM

thread starter left out:
Majority in U.S. Would Back Attack "to Prevent Iran Nuclear Bomb"

FYI

wtf is with you people who love to spin politics?

Martin 10-06-2009 11:35 AM

Iran doesn't have a Nuclear Bomb, but they will say they do and will attack Iran because America is Israel's attack dog.

american pervert 10-06-2009 11:35 AM

america supports bombing brown people

fatfoo 10-06-2009 11:39 AM

So the Farmer dood is right? Or he's wrong? Iran has weapons of nuclear destruction? No?

fatfoo 10-06-2009 11:42 AM

There's penalties on companies that support Iran's import of refined petroleum products.

"The Senate Banking Committee held a hearing today to discuss possible new sanctions on Iran. The committee’s chairman, Democrat Christopher Dodd of Connecticut, said he would push for comprehensive sanctions legislation this month that would impose penalties on companies that support Iran’s import of refined petroleum products."

kowalsky 10-06-2009 11:49 AM

This is very graphic of the power of the medias...

Those people donīt know a shit about Iran or international policy, however they want attack.. fuck it.

Fletch XXX 10-06-2009 11:51 AM

as i always say, most in the US (and goodportion of the world) believe there is a god in the sky who will send you to firey pit for eternal suffering if you dont behave and obey his laws, you expect intelligence out of this crowd?

cheekycherry 10-06-2009 01:31 PM

black gold... again

dyna mo 10-06-2009 01:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MetaMan (Post 16401341)
thread starter left out:
Majority in U.S. Would Back Attack "to Prevent Iran Nuclear Bomb"

FYI

wtf is with you people who love to spin politics?

:thumbsup

moreover, a poll of 1500 people does not accurately represent 300 million people's views.

notime 10-06-2009 02:09 PM

Never met any Iranian people nor have I ever been there.
So what I know is given by the media (the fake nicks from governments...).
My best guess would be; Sand, lot's of sand. Poor and/or uneducated/influenced people. Few idiots in control. And oil. And money. And weapons.

slayer69 10-06-2009 02:10 PM

hahah mental

PornoStar69 10-06-2009 02:13 PM

classic mind control technique by the US Gov
They fake opinion polls all the time
havent you learned ANYTHING yet???

fox news/bbc news/cnn/sky news ALL FUCKING PROPAGANDA

The sheeple believe anything, point the finger at a make-believe bad guy/country everyone jumps and waves there finger.

split_joel 10-06-2009 02:20 PM

Fact: Iran sees America as an enemy.
Fact: Iran is developing nuclear weapons.
Fact: Iran wants to blow Israel out of the sky
Fact: Most people in Iran hate their government

Okay, heres my two cents and let me remind you my brother currently serves this Country in the US Army.

Iran is spinning out of control and something needs to be done, however this would spark a really really bad world war. For one if America were to attack Iran, Russia would not sit idle and allow US Forces to come to close to their borders. Plus Russia is contracted to build the Nuclear facility's in Iran for enrichment.

Another thing is America does not have the money to go spend on fighting another war, we did a shit job in Iraq and because of Iraq we are failing horribly in Afghanistan.

:2 cents:

theking 10-06-2009 02:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dyna mo (Post 16402224)
:thumbsup

moreover, a poll of 1500 people does not accurately represent 300 million people's views.

If it is a scientific poll conducted by a reputable polling company...it is pretty accurate. There is usually a four or five percent inaccuracy allowed one way or the other.

MaDalton 10-06-2009 03:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by split_joel (Post 16402482)
Fact: Iran sees America as an enemy.
Fact: Iran is developing nuclear weapons.
Fact: Iran wants to blow Israel out of the sky
Fact: Most people in Iran hate their government

Okay, heres my two cents and let me remind you my brother currently serves this Country in the US Army.

Iran is spinning out of control and something needs to be done, however this would spark a really really bad world war. For one if America were to attack Iran, Russia would not sit idle and allow US Forces to come to close to their borders. Plus Russia is contracted to build the Nuclear facility's in Iran for enrichment.

Another thing is America does not have the money to go spend on fighting another war, we did a shit job in Iraq and because of Iraq we are failing horribly in Afghanistan.

:2 cents:


you have a lot of facts there...

dyna mo 10-06-2009 03:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by theking (Post 16402626)
If it is a scientific poll conducted by a reputable polling company...it is pretty accurate. There is usually a four or five percent inaccuracy allowed one way or the other.

that's for those polled.

so when the margin of error for a poll is +-4%, that is for the poll results of those polled.

again, it's not statistically accurate to conclude things from such a small sampling.

theking 10-06-2009 03:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dyna mo (Post 16402675)
that's for those polled.

so when the margin of error for a poll is +-4%, that is for the poll results of those polled.

again, it's not statistically accurate to conclude things from such a small sampling.

Studies of scientific polls show that a small sample are usually pretty accurate...and that is why polling companies exist. If they were not pretty accurate...polling companies would cease to exist as no one would want to use their services.

Just as studies show that when one writes their congressman expressing their opinion it is viewed by the congressman as more than one persons opinion but is viewed as x hundred or even x thousands of like thinking people. That is why people should take the time to express their opinions to their congressman...instead of thinking their opinions will not make an impression upon their congressman.

potter 10-06-2009 03:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MetaMan (Post 16401341)
thread starter left out:
Majority in U.S. Would Back Attack "to Prevent Iran Nuclear Bomb"

FYI

wtf is with you people who love to spin politics?



/thread

I was going to say, noooooo way - there's no way the majority in this country want to go to war.

onwebcam 10-06-2009 03:33 PM

For those that haven't figured it out yet our leaders only know how to drive economies with war. With a World recession their obvious answer to that is World War.

dyna mo 10-06-2009 03:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by theking (Post 16402699)
Studies of scientific polls show that a small sample are usually pretty accurate...and that is why polling companies exist. If they were not pretty accurate...polling companies would cease to exist as no one would want to use their services.

Just as studies show that when one writes their congressman expressing their opinion it is viewed by the congressman as more than one persons opinion but is viewed as x hundred or even x thousands of like thinking people. That is why people should take the time to express their opinions to their congressman...instead of thinking their opinions will not make an impression upon their congressman.

i understand that. and i am more than open to being wrong, but there's a lot to get right in a poll to get accurate overall conclusions. how questions are worded, how the random sampling is culled, etc. combined with how misleading both the bloomberg article is written and the original poll article linked, i am skeptical.

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PastorSinAlot 10-06-2009 03:55 PM

dude i was in the army. Iran is up to know good. Iran sending weapons to our enemies. We need to fuck them up before they fuck us up. We dont kill over religion they do.

NaughtyRob 10-06-2009 03:57 PM

Nuke em.

PastorSinAlot 10-06-2009 03:57 PM

Blow the fuck up out of Iran. we dont have to try and over throw the place. Just knock out all of there weapons. Let the people decided who runs the government after that. T

MaDalton 10-06-2009 03:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PastorSinAlot (Post 16402776)
dude i was in the army. Iran is up to know good. Iran sending weapons to our enemies. We need to fuck them up before they fuck us up. We dont kill over religion they do.

you kill over oil, false assumptions and general disagreement though :2 cents:

NaughtyRob 10-06-2009 03:59 PM

These are all the same war. :2 cents:

Quote:

Originally Posted by tripleXeffects (Post 16402764)
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tripleXeffects 10-06-2009 04:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by split_joel (Post 16402482)
Fact: Iran sees America as an enemy.
Fact: Iran is developing nuclear weapons.
Fact: Iran wants to blow Israel out of the sky
Fact: Most people in Iran hate their government

Okay, here's my two cents and let me remind you my brother currently serves this Country in the US Army.

Iran is spinning out of control and something needs to be done, however this would spark a really really bad world war. For one if America were to attack Iran, Russia would not sit idle and allow US Forces to come to close to their borders. Plus Russia is contracted to build the Nuclear facility's in Iran for enrichment.

Another thing is America does not have the money to go spend on fighting another war, we did a shit job in Iraq and because of Iraq we are failing horribly in Afghanistan.

:2 cents:

America lol you mean USA I am American and so are Mexicans and so on besides you are the enemy blow yourselves up

Iran might be developing nuclear weapons but if they were not America would find another reason to invade them if it turns out to be BS later you can blame it on an out going president and his Henchmen.

Israel? wtf ok so why is the USA invading Iran is that American Policy lol do Israels pay US taxes or do US residents support billions in arms expenses to defend Israels occupation of stolen land.

I think most Americans have hated their Government to and I know the rest of the world definitely has lol

HEY DON'T GET ME WRONG if any one country nukes another wipe them off the planet but lets not do it in the name of foresight that's crazy.

I just don't think its up to the USA to dictate to the world whats right for others if it was all about the people and humanitarian causes then why are you not in Darfur. Funny how all US humanitarian efforts are close to oil.

Being broke never stopped USA from fighting any wars your banks and government love you being in debt it keeps you busy thinking about bills

I myself Think it would suck living in Iran but I think it would be an embarrassment to be an a citizen of the USA. yeah yeah Canada sucks to but that's because its owned by US Company's ;)

split_joel 10-06-2009 04:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tripleXeffects (Post 16402848)
America lol you mean USA I am American and so are Mexicans and so on besides you are the enemy blow yourselves up

Iran might be developing nuclear weapons but if they were not America would find another reason to invade them if it turns out to be BS later you can blame it on an out going president and his Henchmen.

Israel? wtf ok so why is the USA invading Iran is that American Policy lol do Israels pay US taxes or do US residents support billions in arms expenses to defend Israels occupation of stolen land.

I think most Americans have hated their Government to and I know the rest of the world definitely has lol

HEY DON'T GET ME WRONG if any one country nukes another wipe them off the planet but lets not do it in the name of foresight that's crazy.

I just don't think its up to the USA to dictate to the world whats right for others if it was all about the people and humanitarian causes then why are you not in Darfur. Funny how all US humanitarian efforts are close to oil.

Being broke never stopped USA from fighting any wars your banks and government love you being in debt it keeps you busy thinking about bills

I myself Think it would suck living in Iran but I think it would be an embarrassment to be an a citizen of the USA. yeah yeah Canada sucks to but that's because its owned by US Company's ;)

Did you read what I wrote, I said although something should be done by IRAN it should not be done by the USA. The USA has to much to lose and cannot support a war of that size.

You are right however the US has no right to get involved unless Iran does something first.

tripleXeffects 10-06-2009 04:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GetNaughty (Post 16402793)
These are all the same war. :2 cents:

its all the same war lol the rich and powerful are fighting to stay rich and powerful that's it that's all

freedom is an illusion practiced by the poor and promoted by the rich

tripleXeffects 10-06-2009 04:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by split_joel (Post 16402857)
Did you read what I wrote, I said although something should be done by IRAN it should not be done by the USA. The USA has to much to lose and cannot support a war of that size.

I did read what you wrote yes I agree with some of it and commented on a lot of it

cykoe6 10-06-2009 04:27 PM

I would support an attack as long as it was large enough and sustained enough to be effective long term. A sustained bombing campaign that destroyed their infrastructure, industrial and refining capacity and military capabilities would remove them as a threat as long as it was comprehensive enough to completely disable them as a military or economic power.

To put it more simply we should bomb them back into the stone age as rubble does not make trouble. No occupation or nation building necessary.

just a punk 10-06-2009 04:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PastorSinAlot (Post 16401325)
Iran needs to blown the fuck up, these fools will attack

You need to grab M16 and go fighting Iranians. Perhaps you will be killed there and your family will receive you by parts in a zinc coffin. But if you will be lucky enough, you may get back alive with a big baggage of "amazing" stories like "we killed that Iranian mofo, raped his wife(s) and burned their house with kids". Nice perspective, isn't it?

BTW, hope you are not a timid pussy what afraid to fight for freedom and democracy. You won't be hiding from mobilization right? :winkwink:


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