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Paul Markham 10-22-2008 03:44 AM

Which girls are the best to work with?
 
Assuming you have worked with girls from different countries.

So who do you think are the best girls to work with?

Forget about language difficulties, I'm asking about turning up on time, doing the job as you want, putting in a good performance, sexy, horny, fuckable and just generally a pleasure to work with.

Yes there are exceptions and I'm talking about a general opinion.

US if so you can say which part.
EU Again where
GB
Eastern Europe
Asian, not the girls on the West Coast LOL
Australian.
And anywhere else you care to mention.

adonthenet 10-22-2008 03:45 AM

Probably the Russians, Just a guess =)
Lets hear it...

Enemator 10-22-2008 03:47 AM

In my experience the Czech girls were the easiest to work with(language barrier not takien into account).

No fuss, they do what they are told and they tell you what they don't want to do.
They keep themselves fit as fuck and clean.

A lot of Brittish girls are full of it. Attitude here, arrogance there. Excuses, dead grannies, moms in hospitals etc.

Paul Markham 10-22-2008 03:47 AM

I would say Eastern European girls are best. Not counting the Polish who are scared God will find out. LOL

klinton 10-22-2008 04:03 AM

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Originally Posted by Paul Markham (Post 14934789)
I would say Eastern European girls are best. Not counting the Polish who are scared God will find out. LOL

haha , i'm not so sure on this :)

young ladies have different mentality :)

Mutt 10-22-2008 04:03 AM

US Midwest and South

as far as dependability/reliability - don't think there's any region that's any better or worse than the others - i'm just talking about looks and personality.

Paul Markham 10-22-2008 04:15 AM

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Originally Posted by Mutt (Post 14934825)
US Midwest and South

as far as dependability/reliability - don't think there's any region that's any better or worse than the others - i'm just talking about looks and personality.

I've shot a few times in the US. New York, LA, San Fran, San Diego and spoken to a few US shooters. In general they think US girls are the worse for turning up on time. 10.00 means anything after 12.00 and they usually have to catch a bus at 4.00. :1orglaugh

Midwest and Southern girls must be different. :winkwink:

Paul Markham 10-22-2008 04:52 AM

If you speak to most Danish or Australian guys in the business they will say Danish or Aussie girls are bad. Danes will do most things off camera and nothing on camera. They don't like the label of Denmark being a porn center. Aussie girls want to be Playboy or lingerie models.

Yet two of the best girls I ever shot, and dated, were Danish and Australian and they would do most things. Pity was I shot them only for solo girl magazine stuff. :(

Enemator 10-22-2008 04:56 AM

Danish girls are fuckgin stunning. Sad to hear that, I always wanted to go and shoot there. How are they for lingerie type shoots?

perfectodollars-gabrio 10-22-2008 05:01 AM

to my experience, it's hard to say about a location, if i had to say, i hate working with italian girls..... too fussy and everything, worked with UK girls, usa girls, czech girls.... much more PRO and nicer for hanging out in general., italians PRETEND that they are this and that.... but then again, that depends.

Mutt 10-22-2008 05:25 AM

Czech girls have the best reputation for professionalism - different culture, American kids are spoiled and lazy, even lower middle class kids. from what I know or have been told the girls there are often turning over some of their earnings to their families - in the US/Canada the money is gone as quick as they make it - all spent on self gratification.

Eriic 10-22-2008 05:28 AM

Sluts, sluts and Slutty Sluts.............

ContentSHOOTER 10-22-2008 05:51 AM

I have shot in the US and in Europe and with out a doubt I would say the models in Europe are heads above anything in the USA. Reason being they are on time, bring what they need to and well they are much hotter than those in the US in my opinion. Girls in the US, when I did shoot there would generally never be on time, most had attitudes and some would actually count the number of shots you would take. When I shot in the states I would tell the agent I would take $50.00 from them if they were an hour late and and additional $50.00 per half hour there after..... Yes some did not even bother to show up so I would deduct that from the agent in terms of booking fees... :2 cents:

Paul Markham 10-22-2008 05:55 AM

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Originally Posted by Enemator (Post 14934926)
Danish girls are fuckgin stunning. Sad to hear that, I always wanted to go and shoot there. How are they for lingerie type shoots?

I think for lingerie they would be fine. Just nothing else.

nikki99 10-22-2008 06:02 AM

I voted!!

Paul Markham 10-22-2008 06:50 AM

Most of the answers are about them turning up on time and their attitude.

For those who have worked with different nationalities, which ones would you say were the horniest. The most likely to get into the work, enjoy themselves and give a performance that's real?

Do you think US girls are more likely to do it for real than say CZ girls?

GregE 10-22-2008 07:29 AM

I've found that American girls are nearly always easy to work with.... when the rent is due.

Paul Markham 10-23-2008 12:02 AM

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Originally Posted by GregE (Post 14935311)
I've found that American girls are nearly always easy to work with.... when the rent is due.

Good point.

One of the things I did not appreciate when I first came to Czech was how little the girls needed the money and how little they appreciated what it would buy. When I first came here $300 was a lot of money and for students and unemployed girls it was a fortune. But they were living on $100 a month and did not need $300 for a days work. They would of liked it but did not need it.

So the financial pressure of them paying the rent or any bills was removed. The work had to be something they would do and enjoy. Today prices and living standars have sky rocketed and the girls have more bills to pay.

It's got it's plus and minus points.

SpicyM 10-23-2008 02:39 AM

How do you find the girls in foreign coutries? Do you advertise in newspapers, on the net or use agencies?? Or just meet them on the street? :winkwink:

I cant seem to find a good way to search for them when I want to make my own content.

InternetIsForPorn 10-23-2008 03:45 AM

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Originally Posted by SpicyM (Post 14940138)
How do you find the girls in foreign coutries? Do you advertise in newspapers, on the net or use agencies?? Or just meet them on the street? :winkwink:

I cant seem to find a good way to search for them when I want to make my own content.

You hit up people like me that help you with that.

I have to agree that Czech girls are very good to work with.

Also girls from Serbia and post-soviet countries are OK most of the time.

Paul Markham 10-23-2008 03:52 AM

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Originally Posted by SpicyM (Post 14940138)
How do you find the girls in foreign coutries? Do you advertise in newspapers, on the net or use agencies?? Or just meet them on the street? :winkwink:

I cant seem to find a good way to search for them when I want to make my own content.

We use all these methods. Just did a casting today and you should of seen what turned up. 3 very plain Janes. But I think we probably will clear $1500 from the day. You need to know how to shoot them and what to shoot of them. Plus where to sell it.

If you need girls in Czech hit me up and I will help you.

Paul Markham 10-23-2008 04:24 AM

How does the saying go?

You have to kiss a lot of frogs to find a Prince.

Seems you have to do lots of casting to find a Princess as well.

http://www.paulmarkham.com/temp/readerswives01.jpg

http://www.paulmarkham.com/temp/readerswives02.jpg

http://www.paulmarkham.com/temp/readerswives03.jpg

None of these girls really wanted to do anything but solo girl and one was adamant she would not do video. :1orglaugh

I'm doing another casting Wednesday, who wants to come with me?

SpicyM 10-23-2008 07:23 AM

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Originally Posted by InternetIsForPorn (Post 14940307)
You hit up people like me that help you with that.

I have to agree that Czech girls are very good to work with.

Also girls from Serbia and post-soviet countries are OK most of the time.


I am from central Europe and I cant seem to find a nice girl willing to do this.

SpicyM 10-23-2008 07:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Paul Markham (Post 14940319)
We use all these methods. Just did a casting today and you should of seen what turned up. 3 very plain Janes. But I think we probably will clear $1500 from the day. You need to know how to shoot them and what to shoot of them. Plus where to sell it.

If you need girls in Czech hit me up and I will help you.

hey many thanks, but I would prefer creating it myself, you now I want the amateur style movies, not professional ones..

I want girls that are amateurs as well, dont need models.. I would ask them directly but I cant find a site for this, I mean some advertisement website where I would put my offer.. or maybe a site like onemodelplace.com for this region.. tried some chat but most of them are not interested in this. :)

SpicyM 10-23-2008 07:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Paul Markham (Post 14939919)
Good point.

One of the things I did not appreciate when I first came to Czech was how little the girls needed the money and how little they appreciated what it would buy. When I first came here $300 was a lot of money and for students and unemployed girls it was a fortune. But they were living on $100 a month and did not need $300 for a days work. They would of liked it but did not need it.

So the financial pressure of them paying the rent or any bills was removed. The work had to be something they would do and enjoy. Today prices and living standars have sky rocketed and the girls have more bills to pay.

It's got it's plus and minus points.


Something is true and something not...

If you want to say that their living situation is much harder these days, its not true at all.

I live in the neighbourhood and I agree the fees and prices are much higher now but the average salary has increased dramatically as well + the unemployment was lowered a lot so now every bitch here has no problem to get a job and they are getting spoiled since they have so many opportunities - so compared to the past, I remember people complaining about lack of job opportunities, low salaries and I bet many more chicks would do this back then compared to present. They are so spoiled now, shame :( We need to move more on the east :winkwink:

pornguy 10-23-2008 07:59 AM

Even my wife shows up late for me.

:(

Paul Markham 10-24-2008 01:41 AM

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Originally Posted by SpicyM (Post 14940742)
hey many thanks, but I would prefer creating it myself, you now I want the amateur style movies, not professional ones..

I want girls that are amateurs as well, dont need models.. I would ask them directly but I cant find a site for this, I mean some advertisement website where I would put my offer.. or maybe a site like onemodelplace.com for this region.. tried some chat but most of them are not interested in this. :)

I have more amateurs turning up for castings than professionals. In fact on a casting I would say 75% of the girls get no further than the casting because they are for us too amateur. Or too plain. Look at what turned up yesterday. :winkwink:

As for shooting amateur style, well you can shoot or we can. Or if you insist on it being the real McCoy amateur I can grab a guy off the street to shoot it. Or we can get her boyfriend or another models boyfriend to shoot it. Shooting amateur is a breeze. The reason we don't shoot it most of the time is the money it makes FOR US.

Hit me up on ICQ, but not for two hours as I'm taking Eva to the hospital.

Paul Markham 10-24-2008 05:07 AM

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Originally Posted by SpicyM (Post 14940793)
Something is true and something not...

If you want to say that their living situation is much harder these days, its not true at all.

Did not say that at all.

Quote:

Originally Posted by SpicyM (Post 14940793)
I live in the neighbourhood and I agree the fees and prices are much higher now but the average salary has increased dramatically as well + the unemployment was lowered a lot so now every bitch here has no problem to get a job and they are getting spoiled since they have so many opportunities - so compared to the past, I remember people complaining about lack of job opportunities, low salaries and I bet many more chicks would do this back then compared to present. They are so spoiled now, shame :( We need to move more on the east :winkwink:

The average salary has increased. But that would be managers, secretaries, etc and not 18 to 22 year old girls who need money. In 30 years I don't think I've had many on an average salary. ;)

I shoot mostly students, low wage earners and unemployed. They are still on a low wage, higher than ten years ago, but they are walking past designer shops and they want to be well dressed. ;)

SpicyM 10-24-2008 05:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Paul Markham (Post 14944925)
Did not say that at all.



The average salary has increased. But that would be managers, secretaries, etc and not 18 to 22 year old girls who need money. In 30 years I don't think I've had many on an average salary. ;)

I shoot mostly students, low wage earners and unemployed. They are still on a low wage, higher than ten years ago, but they are walking past designer shops and they want to be well dressed. ;)


yes, true the young chicks 18 - 19 that still go to school are something different.. they cant get a job yet and some of them really need (or want :) money.. but then many chicks that would be suitable (meaning nice) will better try normal modeling or some non nude posing :-( They will hardly get into some fetish.

As for the average salary well that also depends on where do they live, which city. In our capital there are tens of shops (in the shopping centers) offering a job all the time.. My friend worked there as a seller getting around $800 monthly for sitting on the chair and browsing the net all day since not many people went to the shop, and that is a good money for a seller in my country.

SpicyM 10-24-2008 06:03 AM

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Originally Posted by Paul Markham (Post 14944549)
I have more amateurs turning up for castings than professionals. In fact on a casting I would say 75% of the girls get no further than the casting because they are for us too amateur. Or too plain. Look at what turned up yesterday. :winkwink:

As for shooting amateur style, well you can shoot or we can. Or if you insist on it being the real McCoy amateur I can grab a guy off the street to shoot it. Or we can get her boyfriend or another models boyfriend to shoot it. Shooting amateur is a breeze. The reason we don't shoot it most of the time is the money it makes FOR US.

Hit me up on ICQ, but not for two hours as I'm taking Eva to the hospital.


I will contact you if I get some time.. The stuff I want to shoot would be some fetish oriented, I want to make my own site. I am offering them about $100 - 130 per hour.. I think its enough isnt it?

Manowar 10-24-2008 06:06 AM

the professional Euro girls

Nella etc

StariaDaniel 10-24-2008 06:08 AM

In my experience, czech and russian girls are the easiest to work with, made good experiences with other east european countries too. German and Dutch girls are also 80% great to work with. The few south european i've worked with, well, at least they're more complicated.

But anyway, had maybe 1-2 of 100 who were really shitty to work with. Kinda good % i think :D

Also - you get what you pay for - i guess every girl is working better for a fair price. If you pay them 20$/hour don't expect wonders :D

Also, semi-pro girls are harder to deal with than with amateurs or real pro's. I guess that's mainly because most of them think they're the next supermodel of the year but in reality they're just a girl-next-door with some more cash in the pockets and a more expensive stylist :D

Paul Markham 10-24-2008 07:02 AM

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Originally Posted by SpicyM (Post 14945044)
yes, true the young chicks 18 - 19 that still go to school are something different.. they cant get a job yet and some of them really need (or want :) money.. but then many chicks that would be suitable (meaning nice) will better try normal modeling or some non nude posing :-( They will hardly get into some fetish.

As for the average salary well that also depends on where do they live, which city. In our capital there are tens of shops (in the shopping centers) offering a job all the time.. My friend worked there as a seller getting around $800 monthly for sitting on the chair and browsing the net all day since not many people went to the shop, and that is a good money for a seller in my country.

Girls with experience will get $800 in a good shop but it's not normal for most of the country or shops. But $800 does not go far here. And not the sort of job most 18 to 22 year olds without experience get.

Where are you?

Quote:

I will contact you if I get some time.. The stuff I want to shoot would be some fetish oriented, I want to make my own site. I am offering them about $100 - 130 per hour.. I think its enough isnt it?
Should be enough, depends on how many hours, what the girls are doing and how good/busy the girl is.

Some harcore girls here will not turn up for less than $500 a scene. They're in demand and the sites and producers that want this level will pay them.

Barefootsies 10-24-2008 07:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Enemator (Post 14934787)
A lot of Brittish girls are full of it. Attitude here, arrogance there. Excuses, dead grannies, moms in hospitals etc.


Barefootsies 10-24-2008 07:23 AM

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Originally Posted by StariaDaniel (Post 14945102)
Also, semi-pro girls are harder to deal with than with amateurs or real pro's. I guess that's mainly because most of them think they're the next supermodel of the year but in reality they're just a girl-next-door with some more cash in the pockets and a more expensive stylist :D

This is SO very fucking true

MasterBlow 10-24-2008 08:12 AM

I vote for russians

SpicyM 10-24-2008 09:03 AM

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Originally Posted by Paul Markham (Post 14945275)
Girls with experience will get $800 in a good shop but it's not normal for most of the country or shops. But $800 does not go far here. And not the sort of job most 18 to 22 year olds without experience get.

Where are you?

I am from Slovakia, thats a salary in the capital, sure its different in other towns. That friend worked in a shopping center selling luxurious stuff for ladies but there are lots of such shops. She was 22 or 23, not that great looking just average girl. She had no experience at all. :) It depends but I say they have a lot of options now.


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Originally Posted by Paul Markham (Post 14945275)
Should be enough, depends on how many hours, what the girls are doing and how good/busy the girl is.

Some harcore girls here will not turn up for less than $500 a scene. They're in demand and the sites and producers that want this level will pay them.

I think 2 - 3 hours a day would be enough, once or twice a week. Those movies are not hardcore, toys only + some special fetish maybe, my fantasy is huge :winkwink:

Just dont know where to find them :-) looks like the money dont seduce them enough..

SpicyM 10-24-2008 09:05 AM

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Originally Posted by MasterBlow (Post 14945626)
I vote for russians


russians are beautiful and natural.. i love them

SpicyM 10-24-2008 09:08 AM

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Originally Posted by StariaDaniel (Post 14945102)
If you pay them 20$/hour don't expect wonders :D


$20/hour is that even possible??? Maybe some non nude shots but I doubt. As I said, I cant seem to find a chick (not beautiful one just a normal girl!) that would do that for $100 and this is the central europe region... looks like they are getting so fucking spoiled here

d-null 10-24-2008 09:14 AM

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Originally Posted by Paul Markham (Post 14940374)
How does the saying go?

You have to kiss a lot of frogs to find a Prince.

Seems you have to do lots of casting to find a Princess as well.

http://www.paulmarkham.com/temp/readerswives01.jpg

http://www.paulmarkham.com/temp/readerswives02.jpg

http://www.paulmarkham.com/temp/readerswives03.jpg

None of these girls really wanted to do anything but solo girl and one was adamant she would not do video. :1orglaugh

I'm doing another casting Wednesday, who wants to come with me?

is there a shortage of good hairstylists there?


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