Decided to post a gallery to some TGPs...
 

Every now and then I think of the old days and say "yeah, start doing that again".
Then shortly after I start reality rears it's head.

It didn't take long before it was clear that I wasn't going anywhere with this unless
I get partner accounts and each TGP is talking about back logs for partner accounts.

I think I gave up already. Maybe not, but it feels like it at the moment.

dont think it will bring any good $$

It used to. If I had solid accounts with 50 top TGPS then, if sales are anything
close to what they used to be, it's really good money.

The old days : did $36k in sales to massivecocks from TGP galleries in 6 months.

:2 cents::helpme:error

There's no money in submitting, you did the right thing by giving up.

nowadays you need to spend money in order to earn money

Gallery submitting definitely isn't what it used to be a couple years ago.

If you want to make any type of profit, you have to have a good bankroll when you begin to scoop up good Partner Accounts and Paid spots. Otherwise, you'll be working for pennies.

and you NEED Partner Accounts. If you use mass submitting tools like Chameleon, you may be submitting to 500+ tgps everytime you submit, but 99.9% of them will ever send you traffic and if they do, it'll be a hit or 2.


There are the odd TGPs that will send you some traffic, but as for the rest of the free TGPs, they are worthless.

It's funny always hear everyone on the boards say TGP submitting is worthless unless you have partner accounts, and all the big program managers say don't even bother, you can't get listed unless you pay for a premium spot and it will eat all your bandwidth for little or no sales.

But when I speak to some small independent site operators (please don't out yourselves here either one of you, let's keep the convo between us, I know you are reading, he he) who submit their own unique galleries literally every day with Chameleon and have never paid for a partner account in their life, and they tell me that even today in 2008 that that they get listed all the time for free and get major traffic that converts for them. Hard to tell who to believe but I am going to give it a try.

Yeah, I know. what I'm saying is that half the sales I used to get is still a lot of
money. Even a 3rd of 36k for six months is money to me.

And I was only counting the income from the one sponsor site because other
sites I promoted had signups comming from tgp plus other sites. I just focused
on the one I could tell was all TGP traffic.

Agreed. Submitting to 500 TGPs and only 30-60 send traffic.

I failed at submitting 2003, can't believe how some people still make money with that in 2008 :upsidedow

bro, send me 40.00 by epass and i'll have an account set up for you within an hour..
:)

The small guys are telling you the truth.
They submit unique content and therefore get the attention of the TGP.

The partner account is not to keep out webmasters, but to cut down on cheaters.
If theTGP is sure you are not a cheater and you have unique content then you should
get listed often.

Is that per month?

Still making nice money on pure submitting. 4.5-5k gross during summer. This month I am lucky if I reach 4k :(
Costs: 1-1.5k monthly, hosting and passes.
I would never recommend anyone to start submitting. If you have no skills already, you will fail and/or lose motivation lightning fast.
About CS: I use this tool and I am happy with it. You have to disable 80% of the sites in it [I checked my stats after half year of serious submitting and disbled those who never sent significant traffic/sales] that is 100% true.

http://www.shemp.com/shempgold.html
The cost is 40.00 USD per month..

yes, you can submit 2 galleries a day....and i even list them...

I'll take one from you tomorrow Shemp. :)

thanks Ross :)

I quit submitting about a year ago... Haven't looked back :)

you have skills a lot of webmasters dont have...

:1orglaugh I think I just wasn't very good at galleries.

Exactly, and how many hours a day does it really take you? 2-3-4-5?


You need to spend alot on passes to make money back, otherwise those 2-3-4 hours a day you spend submitting is for nothing.


And I agree with you on having to disable 80% of the sites. I did the same.

Shemp is one of the few that plays no games.

Some of the sites will let you pay for a pass for years and maybe list you every now and then. With Shemp you get your money's worth.

He's as straight up as they come.

thanks, Pornwolf...

I submit only 1 gallery per day?
Can I get partner account at lower price for 1 gall/day?

I have walked through dangerous places.... uncharted territories and from where I come... Shemp is a Legend .........




epass >> freddykrueger
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40.00 is the base price...its your option if you want to submit 1 or 2...
we do pix and movies and many webmasters will submit one of each...

Shemp definitely has quality traffic.

Every month that pass pays for itself and more!

Shemp is great. Not even sure if he remembers me but he has taught me alot. I might get one of those PA's just for kicks and submit for a month and see what becomes of it.:2 cents:

Would be money well spent too. The Shemp's traffic is pure gold.

I am curious, if someone submits a truly unique gallery to Shemp without a partner account does it simply not get listed under any circumstances or does it just get put further back in the queue?

Jim, we only accept galleries from pre-approved submitters ....ie the partner accounts..

I had a free account with Shemp years ago his traffic used to convert very well for me, but I don't submit galleries anymore so I don't have an account with him anymore.

Out of all the people in the biz, Shemp is one of the most honest and respected webmasters I have come accross:thumbsup

I set up one of these with you tomorrow if thats cool :winkwink:

sure thing :)

i just want to thank everyone for the very positive comments..
we try to keep things pretty simple..
...we dont ever sell more gallery spots than we can list on a daily basis...
and if you submit today, you get listed tomorrow.. :)

I just got an account with Shemp, all my galls get posted next day. Richard's Realm also posts my galls within an hour. Also, Persian Kitty has a free account, just fill out the form, then post and get galls up in a day or two. All three give me good traffic.

I also paid for Worldsex/Al4a, and probably won't be renewing it.

It's a Shempfest in here! Haha

Richard's & Kitty are definitely top notch honest sites as well.

There's not enough of them.

I don't remember who it was, but one of the site owners wanted me to pay him $100 just to consider considering giving me a partner account. I almost bust an ass-gasket laughing so hard.