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Naughty America - $250 Payout Minimum
Fuck that...refuckendiculous
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Hmm.... interesting... your either in for the long haul or your not...
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Mine's at $100.. Used to be $50.. hmmm..
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between the last 7 months of constant slips in payouts,hit counts, staff turnaround and now this.. how can we trust things are "all great" at naughtyamerica? drop epass, thats fine but now raise a programs min payout to 250?
so the guys who just get odd rebills from them since they moved away from a program that was having issues now have to hope that they will remember to pay when they hit 250? no thanks! |
they're fucked.
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What do your payments look like in general?
Come on, its not like its $2.500,00 |
I feel sorry for the guys who are owed backpay still, and seem to find out every couple weeks that they are either short funds or their stats are showing different. If your owed 50 dollars or 5000 dollars, it seems that they have the same reply "we will fix it" that never happens!
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They'll make $250 off the interest by the time most webmasters even get to $250 in their account :)
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damn, is this announced anywhere?
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Fuck.. I just checked my email and I see that email in there now.. $250 cheque minimum and $500 for wires... That's fucking insane.. What's wrong with them over there??
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Sadly, with this $250 limit, and my traffic being spread so thin throughout about every sponsor program, I'm pulling links to NaughtyAmerica, I'll replace with a normal $100 minimum payout sponsor :Oh crap |
bring back the old naughtyamerica! checks were on time, payments always sent and reps that reply!! only person who you seem to get any "proper" answer from is Mark... links are down, and thats not a "hosting problem" or "accounting error" or "stats issue" no excuse just saying you lost another webmaster.
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Sounds like the beginning of the end for NA. I am not promoting them anymore.
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That is FUCKED!
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wonder how much they are gonna bank from affils making a few sales, and not being paid out.
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Sorry to say it, but it does look shady. If most other sponsors did that I wouldn't care, but I've never heard of a sponsor with a minimum that high.
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since its impossible for me to meet that about on a regular basis im gonna have to drop them too...
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i actually requested my check minimum to be raised to 250 a couple years ago with them. its annoying when programs pay weekly and you get checks for $50-150. i like getting big checks to make things easier since i promote so many sponsors. if you're living paycheck to paycheck though i could see it being a problem.
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Hi everyone,
Geez, I did not think we were going to make such a huge stink with this. We have had multiple requests from affiliates in the past and recently for a higher payout limit. Such as "beemk" suggested above we felt most affiliates do not like having to deposit checks every week. We are currently looking into lowering the payouts and will be posting the new minimum later today. We thought this would be an appreciated switch... But as always we listen to our affiliates and want to make sure your experience promoting us is as comfortable and profitable as can be, that's why we switched to NATS, that's why we offer all the tools that we do to help you and your various business platform be as profitable as possible. Pleas contact myself or Joe if you have any questions. If you're not aware of all the tools we offer please log in and check out your ad tools available to you in the new admin today: http://www.naughtyamericaaffiliates.com Thanks, |
hey Mark/NaughtyAce,
this is the first time I've seen a post from you in a NA business thread in a while, is your hip ok? Please go back to being on top of things, its much more reassuring. I dont have anything against Joe, its just that I feel alot more comfortable sending you traffic to NA if i also see you replying in NA threads and taking care of things. :2 cents: My suggestion would be to lower the min payout but move to 2week pay-periods. Hopefully that will help you get payouts on time, it must be a bitch to have to go through the entire payout/accounting process every week. |
I just hate high payout minimums..
I have more than $500 around the sponsors that couldn't be paid because of those minimums, it really sucks. |
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How did those go? Dear NA I can not work out how to change MY minimum payouts to be $250 (even though its right in nats at edit.php?type=payment ) So can you please make it an across the board thing and change ALL affiliates payouts to be a min of $250? thanks your loyal Webmaster |
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What a bs. I dont promote NA America so i dont care but reading all the threads about them i personally wouldnt send them a hit if i was looking for a new program. Youre just asking for trouble. |
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Hey guys, Naughty America has been a consistent company since back in the day when I first began promoting them when they were Socal Cash.
I've made a lot of money with them over the last 8 years or so and I think I'm going to give them the benefit of the doubt for the moment. Andreas and Mark are two of the most honest people you will ever meet in this business and run one of the most above board programs ever. I understand how raising the minimum was b.s. And Mark has recognized that and has said he is changing it. No need to crucify him. N.A. has been good for us for too long to turn on them like ravenous dogs because they are making some changes (nats, affiliate manager, etc.) Comments like they are "shady" are complete bullshit. Real webmasters who actually work with these guys already know that they are honorable. I have complete respect for Naughty America and so should some of the wise asses in this thread. |
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I have been promoting NA for a long time, in fact I received a cheque from epoch a month or two ago from someone that was still rebilling before they moved to multiple processors, which was years ago. I believe they were still called socalcash back then. So I have no doubt about their honesty, just that the min. payment change looked bad from a PR standpoint IMO. |
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But never the less you have my cell, feel free to always call me if there's a problem. We are going to be lowering the payout if they haven't already. Some of the posts I'm seeing are funny, Robbie, thank you as well for the support. |
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Datatank you are hillarious... not... we didn't get that specific request, but our affiliates kept asking for higher payouts and our accounting did too. Our accounting has to send out a lot of checks a week and that's a real pain for them amongst doing other aspects of their job, so we figured that this would alleviate their problem and wouldn't be too hard on affiliates, but it's np going back to how it is. Now Datatank, I'd like to get you sending enough to meet our lower minimum :) Honestly though, $250 a week after you've been promoting us for a few weeks should not be a problem. We have the best retention in the industry and the recurrings after getting a couple sales in a month can easily put you over the $250 a week. Just keep up a good amount of sales after that and it's easy. |
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Guys I would'nt worry about NA, they are a standup company and I have done alot of business with them over the years. I personally found it a bit annoying to get cheques every week as well, I much prefer once every couple of weeks. Less cheque signing for me to do :)
I don't want to speak on Ace's behalf, but pretty I'm sure if someone has a specific issue with getting paid out at say $50 Ace could probably arrange something for you. |
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I do stand behind NA because out of all the years with them I have always been paid and treated fairly. However, I am reading a little bit between the lines so to speak also. I just hope things will get back on track... |
As Mark stated, we wanted to try a higher minimum payment because we were listening to affiliates. We are listening to you so we are going to make checks $100 minimum payout. I hope this puts most of you at ease. No adjustment is needed to your account as I waited till today to make the switch.
I have not received any comments on wires so they will stay at $500 and I can make changes on a case by case basis. As stated before we will continue on with a weekly payment periods. I would have been on here sooner, however, I was trying to respond to all of the adverse reactions I have received by email...you are heard. |
If your accounting is having to mail out too many checks per week why not go to bi-weekly or montly payout and keep the same minimum? And if you have alot of people requesting it thats great but why not offer multiple options rather then say hey this is gonna be the normal payouts, just dosen't make good sence to me. Like anything in life you force something on people and thier gonna throw rocks at you. You give them the option then everyone is happy :)
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