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drama 06-04-2006 01:24 PM

WTF is wrong with these muslims in Toronto and their support of the arrested
 
I was watching the news and listening to these fucking Muslims who NEVER condemned what these 17 arrested terrorists were plotting but instead were talking about how they cannot walk down the street at night or walk on the beach in the morning...

WTF is wrong with them. How do you think it feels for the rest of Toronto to not be able to ride the subway because they think that your fucking people are going to blow them up because you're not condemning what they have plotted to do?

What's even more whacked is that one of these fucking terrorists is a rich kid from the burbs with a dad who is a doctor.

"Ahmad Mustafa Ghany is a 21-year-old health sciences graduate from McMaster University in Hamilton, according to his lawyer Rocco Galati.

Ghany, who lives in an upscale neighbourhood in Mississauga, was arrested during police raids late Friday night and charged along with 16 others in a suspected terrorism plot.

He was born in Canada and his father, a medical doctor, emigrated from Trinidad and Tobago to Canada in 1955.

Yesterday, residents of Robin Dr., where Ghany lives, said they knew nothing of the arrest that had taken place the night before.


One neighbour, who lives next door to Ghany's home, said she heard nothing and saw no police activity outside the well-kept house on the quiet tree-lined street on Friday night."

http://www.thestar.com/NASApp/cs/Con...d=970599119419

I see it as simple as this. If you're not condemming them then you're supporting them. Either you speak out against these fucking terrorists or i will consider you part of them.

ChargebackJoe 06-04-2006 01:30 PM

The problem is not with Islam, it is just another religion. The probelm is with its followers DNA.

drama 06-04-2006 01:33 PM

Naw, the problem is that the Muslim people of this city are not standing up and speaking out against what was about to happen and the 17 arrested terrorists.

What they do speak out about is how they get dirty looks from people. How they get treated differently. Fucking right, i do the same thing as well knowing that they're basically ignoring the terrorist issue and changing subjects.

The Coran speaks of peace and non-violence which means you cannot be a true islamic and be able to carry our terrorist plots.

Pipecrew 06-04-2006 01:39 PM

The news keeps saying all these terrorists are born and raised canadians.. They are playing it big time in the US media now, so next time johnny cracker canadian tries to cross into the usa border it will even be a bigger nightmare.

CDSmith 06-04-2006 01:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by drama
I see it as simple as this. If you're not condemming them then you're supporting them. Either you speak out against these fucking terrorists or i will consider you part of them.

I got an eerie chill when I read this. It reminded me of something GDubya said right after 9/11.

Wild.


At any rate I agree that muslims in TO should want to distance themselves from the 17 would-be terrorists who were caught. You can't blame people for being wary, but you can attempt to earn back more trust.

Lazonby 06-04-2006 01:40 PM

Firstly, terrorism against infidels is mandated under Islamic law, because that's EXACTLY what Muhammad himself did.

Secondly, a Muslim must never take the side of the infidels against the Muslims.

So, all real Muslims (read, people who practice Islam as opposed to those who say they are Muslim but really are not) support the terrorists. If they didn't, they would not be Muslims.

drama 06-04-2006 01:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CDSmith
I got an eerie chill when I read this. It reminded me of something GDubya said right after 9/11.

Wild.


At any rate I agree that muslims in TO should want to distance themselves from the 17 would-be terrorists who were caught. You can't blame people for being wary, but you can attempt to earn back more trust.


Think about it logically for a minute.

There are people of their community who have been arrested. I know if any jew and/portuguese group of people were caught trying to pull the shit these people were caught pulling i would be the first one to hang them out to dry..

Why is it that the muslim community hasnt done that yet? There has to be a reason.

Lazonby 06-04-2006 01:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by drama
The Coran speaks of peace and non-violence which means you cannot be a true islamic and be able to carry our terrorist plots.

Except for all the parts (especially Suras 2 - 9) in which the Qur'an preaches nothing but hatred and violence against all non-Muslims. I see you've never read the Qur'an but instead have relied on what an apologist has written.

drama 06-04-2006 01:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lazonby
Except for all the parts (especially Suras 2 - 9) in which the Qur'an preaches nothing but hatred and violence against all non-Muslims. I see you've never read the Qur'an but instead have relied on what an apologist has written.


Could, i am googling now to find out for myself after you pointed it out in the previous thread :)

CDSmith 06-04-2006 01:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by drama
Think about it logically for a minute.

I try to think about everything logically.

Quote:

Originally Posted by drama
There are people of their community who have been arrested. I know if any jew and/portuguese group of people were caught trying to pull the shit these people were caught pulling i would be the first one to hang them out to dry..

Why is it that the muslim community hasnt done that yet? There has to be a reason.

As I already said, I agree with you on that point. I'm not sure what more you want me to say.

12clicks 06-04-2006 01:48 PM

what Canadians haven't learned yet is that muslims always side with muslims. they don't consider themselves Canadians or Americans or Britains, they onsider themsleves muslims.

At the end of the day, they *do* support the terrorists and will never denounce terrorism unless they're forced to.

And then its only lip service.

12clicks 06-04-2006 01:51 PM

welcome to the real world, my Canadian friends.

where you'll finally see how silly your ideas on what the US should be doing about terrorism are.

BradM 06-04-2006 01:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 12clicks
what Canadians haven't learned yet is that muslims always side with muslims. they don't consider themselves Canadians or Americans or Britains, they onsider themsleves muslims.

At the end of the day, they *do* support the terrorists and will never denounce terrorism unless they're forced to.

And then its only lip service.

Yep, you got it. But you and I know they will never condemn it unless it plays into their hand. I am sick and tired of these radical pieces of crap. We need a vigilante. Wait... we have one. GWB. Can we just let him press the big red button and turn the middle east into a dust bowl? Er... wait it already is. I mean a glass bowl? The world's largest glass bowl... that has a nice ring to it.

JimmiDean 06-04-2006 03:14 PM

It was on talk radio today on CBC and you guessed it several Muslims calling in screaming racism and that we should not add fuel to the fire by talking about this incident.

Worldnet 06-04-2006 03:20 PM

The muslims here in Atlanta were the same way when the two here were caught(he was a good boy, bla,bla,bla).

GTS Mark 06-04-2006 03:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 12clicks
what Canadians haven't learned yet is that muslims always side with muslims. they don't consider themselves Canadians or Americans or Britains, they onsider themsleves muslims.

At the end of the day, they *do* support the terrorists and will never denounce terrorism unless they're forced to.

And then its only lip service.

I hate to say it, but I think you're right on the mark with this.

DH

QuaWee 06-04-2006 03:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 12clicks
what Canadians haven't learned yet is that muslims always side with muslims. they don't consider themselves Canadians or Americans or Britains, they onsider themsleves muslims.

At the end of the day, they *do* support the terrorists and will never denounce terrorism unless they're forced to.

And then its only lip service.

Are you saying all Muslims support terrorism?

QuaWee 06-04-2006 03:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lazonby
Firstly, terrorism against infidels is mandated under Islamic law, because that's EXACTLY what Muhammad himself did.

Secondly, a Muslim must never take the side of the infidels against the Muslims.

So, all real Muslims (read, people who practice Islam as opposed to those who say they are Muslim but really are not) support the terrorists. If they didn't, they would not be Muslims.

lol, have you ever read the Quran. Suicide is forbidden. People take religous text and distort for the personal gain all the time. Have yoy ever turned on the tube and see a minister selling holy water or ministers curing a cancer victim by pushing her. Doesn't matter what religion it is. Ever heard of manifest destiny?

drama 06-04-2006 03:40 PM

I was watching the news today and it was only after an attack on a mosque that they actually started to speak out against them BUT they also kept on saying "Innocent until proven guilty" which is fine an all but why must they wait to an attack on them to start saying "that is some bad shit and we do not support it"

Things are going to get messy here i think :)

QuaWee 06-04-2006 03:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lazonby
Except for all the parts (especially Suras 2 - 9) in which the Qur'an preaches nothing but hatred and violence against all non-Muslims. I see you've never read the Qur'an but instead have relied on what an apologist has written.

You obviously have not read the Quran yourself

QuaWee 06-04-2006 03:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BradM
Yep, you got it. But you and I know they will never condemn it unless it plays into their hand. I am sick and tired of these radical pieces of crap. We need a vigilante. Wait... we have one. GWB. Can we just let him press the big red button and turn the middle east into a dust bowl? Er... wait it already is. I mean a glass bowl? The world's largest glass bowl... that has a nice ring to it.

you are an idiot. congrats :thumbsup

MaddCaz 06-04-2006 03:50 PM

the hold this chick has...

12clicks 06-04-2006 03:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by QuaWee
Are you saying all Muslims support terrorism?

Gee, I'm not sure. Everywhere you have pockets of muslims you have terrorism. (even a backwater like canada:winkwink:) Yet surprisingly, you have not had one instance of muslims turning in or reporting muslims to the authorities.
17 muslim terrorists and no one knew anything?

drama 06-04-2006 03:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 12clicks
Gee, I'm not sure. Everywhere you have pockets of muslims you have terrorism. (even a backwater like canada:winkwink:) Yet surprisingly, you have not had one instance of muslims turning in or reporting muslims to the authorities.
17 muslim terrorists and no one knew anything?


Really makes you wonder doesnt it. I'm sure there has been no instances of muslims turning in other muslims in the USA either

AmateurFlix 06-04-2006 03:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by drama
I was watching the news and listening to these fucking Muslims who NEVER condemned what these 17 arrested terrorists were plotting ...
WTF is wrong with them. How do you think it feels for the rest of Toronto to not be able to ride the subway because they think that your fucking people are going to blow them up because you're not condemning what they have plotted to do.

Same type of thing happened in Ohio a year or two ago.

The leader of some mosque was arrested and they broadcast videotape of him calling for the death of jews and raising money for terrorists. It was totally irrefuteable.

Not ONE of his following or any other local muslims spoke out against him after seeing this, at least not publicly.

QuaWee 06-04-2006 04:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 12clicks
Gee, I'm not sure. Everywhere you have pockets of muslims you have terrorism. (even a backwater like canada:winkwink:) Yet surprisingly, you have not had one instance of muslims turning in or reporting muslims to the authorities.
17 muslim terrorists and no one knew anything?

Just because "you" haven't heard reports of Muslims reporting Muslims doesn't mean it hasn't happened. You are just assuming. It's funny how the media can mind fuck people. People are so scared of anything different. So called, Muslims blow up shit and they condemn all Muslims as being the same. I have been stopped by so many police officers for bullshit reasons. Do I hate cops? Nope. Hatred is just another way of controlling people. As soon as you show emotion people will feed off it. Just like when 9/11 occured people were selling american flags, saddam cards,etc... And don't get me started on that Flight 93 movie.

2HousePlague 06-04-2006 04:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by QuaWee
Just because "you" haven't heard reports of Muslims reporting Muslims doesn't mean it hasn't happened. You are just assuming. It's funny how the media can mind fuck people. People are so scared of anything different. So called, Muslims blow up shit and they condemn all Muslims as being the same. I have been stopped by so many police officers for bullshit reasons. Do I hate cops? Nope. Hatred is just another way of controlling people. As soon as you show emotion people will feed off it. Just like when 9/11 occured people were selling american flags, saddam cards,etc... And don't get me started on that Flight 93 movie.

Great post.


2hp

Lazonby 06-04-2006 06:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by QuaWee
lol, have you ever read the Quran. Suicide is forbidden. People take religous text and distort for the personal gain all the time. Have yoy ever turned on the tube and see a minister selling holy water or ministers curing a cancer victim by pushing her. Doesn't matter what religion it is. Ever heard of manifest destiny?

Suicide is indeed forbidden in Islam. However, dying in the course of killing infidels is not considered suicide. And here's why: the point of suicide is to kill oneself. The point of blowing yourself up in a restaurant is not to kill yourself but to kill others. The fact that you yourself die in the process is incidental.

Lazonby 06-04-2006 06:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by QuaWee
You obviously have not read the Quran yourself

I've read it front to back more than once and have referenced it many times. You however have never even picked up a copy.

drctfiesta 06-04-2006 06:13 PM

I disagree with you all, it is all Bush and Israel fault.
It is Bush fault that an asteroid is coming and it is Israel fault that Mohammed is not alive anymore.

Alllah Ouakbarrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr

Pleasurepays 06-04-2006 06:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CDSmith
I got an eerie chill when I read this. It reminded me of something GDubya said right after 9/11.

Wild.


At any rate I agree that muslims in TO should want to distance themselves from the 17 would-be terrorists who were caught. You can't blame people for being wary, but you can attempt to earn back more trust.


i would say that the muslim community sends a pretty mixed message. they dont hesitate to talk non-stop about being a religion of peace... at the same time, they dont condemn violence and on top of that, we see mostly idiots shooting ak-47's in the air, cutting peoples heads off, stoning women to death and strapping their kids up with bombs in the news.

2HousePlague 06-04-2006 06:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pleasurepays
i would say that the muslim community sends a pretty mixed message. they dont hesitate to talk non-stop about being a religion of peace... at the same time, they dont condemn violence and on top of that, we see mostly idiots shooting ak-47's in the air, cutting peoples heads off, stoning women to death and strapping their kids up with bombs in the news.


Everybody postures.

2hp

MetaMan 06-04-2006 06:25 PM

they are all the same, i already hope i dont get suicide belted when i go into a 711,

like stated above they are not Canadians, they are Muslims, we should force everyone to assimilate im tired of all these POS imigrants coming in and turning our great country into shit.

QuaWee 06-04-2006 06:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lazonby
Suicide is indeed forbidden in Islam. However, dying in the course of killing infidels is not considered suicide. And here's why: the point of suicide is to kill oneself. The point of blowing yourself up in a restaurant is not to kill yourself but to kill others. The fact that you yourself die in the process is incidental.

Very moronic. Congratulations. :thumbsup

QuaWee 06-04-2006 06:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lazonby
I've read it front to back more than once and have referenced it many times. You however have never even picked up a copy.

Really, I was born and rasied as a Muslim. QuaWee = Qawiy. It's Arabic. I even went to a Muslim school for 4 years when I was youunger. I know the Quran like the back of my hand. Don't bullshit and act like you know what you are talking about. I am not a Muslim anymore but I do believe in God and it's not because of 9/11 or the rest of that bullshit

seven 06-04-2006 06:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lazonby
Firstly, terrorism against infidels is mandated under Islamic law, because that's EXACTLY what Muhammad himself did.

Secondly, a Muslim must never take the side of the infidels against the Muslims.

So, all real Muslims (read, people who practice Islam as opposed to those who say they are Muslim but really are not) support the terrorists. If they didn't, they would not be Muslims.

Says Lazonby the greatest! There he goes again with his bullshit. man! you've been OWNED so many times yet you don't give up!

Now here, all real christians (read, people who practice Christianity as opposed to those who say they are Christians but really are not) support murderers. If they didn't, they would not be Christians, says Evil Bible

Linguist 06-04-2006 06:51 PM

What people fail to realize that the religion in itself has little to do with this. Christianity and Islam share similar roots, it's the area where religion has flourished that defined it.
The people from the middle east have a completely different mindset, and it's saddening that so many westerners can't see it. Don't try to understand why they do what they do - you won't. Stereotypes exist for a reason. Take Jews, Frenchies, Muslims, Dutchies, Russians - while stereotypes don't apply to everyone, you'll be foolish to dismiss the fact that a majority would fit in.

On topic: I'm from Mississauga, that fucker is from Mississauga. He better not blow up something with me in it. :Oh crap

QuaWee 06-04-2006 07:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Linguist
What people fail to realize that the religion in itself has little to do with this. Christianity and Islam share similar roots, it's the area where religion has flourished that defined it.
The people from the middle east have a completely different mindset, and it's saddening that so many westerners can't see it. Don't try to understand why they do what they do - you won't. Stereotypes exist for a reason. Take Jews, Frenchies, Muslims, Dutchies, Russians - while stereotypes don't apply to everyone, you'll be foolish to dismiss the fact that a majority would fit in.

On topic: I'm from Mississauga, that fucker is from Mississauga. He better not blow up something with me in it. :Oh crap

Good point.

12clicks 06-04-2006 07:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by QuaWee
Just because "you" haven't heard reports of Muslims reporting Muslims doesn't mean it hasn't happened. You are just assuming.

well Mr. muslim apologist, go find some links, I'll wait right here.:1orglaugh

Lazonby 06-04-2006 08:38 PM

QwaWee, if you know Islam then you wouldn't try and pretend that 'dying in Allah's cause' is illegal in Islam, because you know full well it isn't, unless you are lying. And you do know of the penalty for one who leaves Islam.


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