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After Shock Media 05-01-2006 03:42 PM

Backfire due to strike.
 
As I have stated before my fiance owns and operates a landscaping/yard care business. She has always have only used American labor and it has been advertised that way since day one. It allowed her to stand out as well as her clients were more apt to pay a premium price for the service.

Nothing would of or could of prepared me for today. Typically she may get five to ten calls a week from potential new clients, except on Tuesdays when the garden section runs in the paper and she gets around ten estimates on that day. So a typical week would have fifteen to twenty.

Well everyone and their damn brother has been calling today and bitching up a storm about other companies not showing up. They want them replaced. I handle the phones for her while she is out in the field with the crews. At first I was just setting up estimates but the calls kept coming. So I started trying to weed some out by quoting out the per hour rate + 5.00 per man hour. Nobody is even price shy right now.

It is currently 3:40 when I am making this post. It has taken me almost ten minutes to do so because of stopping to answer the phone. Right now she currently has thirty two estimates to do this week with over two thirds at the pre explained price point.

Nismo 05-01-2006 03:47 PM

Hell yeah. Looks like she'll be making alot more money this month, eh?

munki 05-01-2006 03:47 PM

Gratz on the business bump for you and the spouse!

majorbitch 05-01-2006 03:51 PM

Haha, that's awesome!

After Shock Media 05-01-2006 03:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Nismo
Hell yeah. Looks like she'll be making alot more money this month, eh?

Possibly.

The damn downside and ironic part is despite that she pays damn high wages and other bennifits. It is almost impossible for her to find decent labor that will do the damn jobs. Has been since she started. It has been the double edged sword so to speak.

With this increase in business (most clients remain on year after year) another crew will be needed and it will be almost impossible to fill a crew that meets her standards, can do the job, can handle the job, and are not fucking lazy.

HorseShit 05-01-2006 03:53 PM

awesome, i need a girl making decent money

RhiannonAPM 05-01-2006 03:54 PM

Congrats on that...keep up the good work!! :thumbsup

mattz 05-01-2006 03:55 PM

awesome, congrats!

RightHandMan 05-01-2006 03:56 PM

Where are you located ASM???

Quote:

Originally Posted by After Shock Media
Possibly.

The damn downside and ironic part is despite that she pays damn high wages and other bennifits. It is almost impossible for her to find decent labor that will do the damn jobs. Has been since she started. It has been the double edged sword so to speak.

With this increase in business (most clients remain on year after year) another crew will be needed and it will be almost impossible to fill a crew that meets her standards, can do the job, can handle the job, and are not fucking lazy.


shermo 05-01-2006 03:56 PM

Looks like she put herself in a great position. Good for her!

Sly 05-01-2006 03:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by After Shock Media
Possibly.

The damn downside and ironic part is despite that she pays damn high wages and other bennifits. It is almost impossible for her to find decent labor that will do the damn jobs. Has been since she started. It has been the double edged sword so to speak.

With this increase in business (most clients remain on year after year) another crew will be needed and it will be almost impossible to fill a crew that meets her standards, can do the job, can handle the job, and are not fucking lazy.

So are you saying she may need to hire some Mexicans because she can't find enough "Americans" to do the job? :1orglaugh

Furious_Female 05-01-2006 03:59 PM

You get what you pay for :thumbsup (most of the time :1orglaugh)

Mr Pheer 05-01-2006 04:02 PM

i fired my lawnservice today to, but I'm just going to do my own lawn now

pornguy 05-01-2006 04:02 PM

ASM. Looks like it may be time for you to hook up to a riding mower, and help out.

After Shock Media 05-01-2006 04:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Sly
So are you saying she may need to hire some Mexicans because she can't find enough "Americans" to do the job? :1orglaugh

Sadly that has been her issue since she started with the whole American labor spin. Two of her best employees are legal mexicans (they did not strike either). Just about everyone else only lasts a season max and often quits or lags after a couple weeks.

After Shock Media 05-01-2006 04:04 PM

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Originally Posted by RightHandMan
Where are you located ASM???

Far Northern CA.

Sly 05-01-2006 04:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by After Shock Media
Sadly that has been her issue since she started with the whole American labor spin. Two of her best employees are legal mexicans (they did not strike either). Just about everyone else only lasts a season max and often quits or lags after a couple weeks.

White people are lazy and think they're too good for manual labor! Unless they're from the mid-west.

Semi-Retired-Dave 05-01-2006 05:06 PM

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Originally Posted by After Shock Media
As I have stated before my fiance owns and operates a landscaping/yard care business. She has always have only used American labor and it has been advertised that way since day one. It allowed her to stand out as well as her clients were more apt to pay a premium price for the service.

Nothing would of or could of prepared me for today. Typically she may get five to ten calls a week from potential new clients, except on Tuesdays when the garden section runs in the paper and she gets around ten estimates on that day. So a typical week would have fifteen to twenty.

Well everyone and their damn brother has been calling today and bitching up a storm about other companies not showing up. They want them replaced. I handle the phones for her while she is out in the field with the crews. At first I was just setting up estimates but the calls kept coming. So I started trying to weed some out by quoting out the per hour rate + 5.00 per man hour. Nobody is even price shy right now.

It is currently 3:40 when I am making this post. It has taken me almost ten minutes to do so because of stopping to answer the phone. Right now she currently has thirty two estimates to do this week with over two thirds at the pre explained price point.

That is Crazy.

Fresh 05-01-2006 05:08 PM

thats out of control! hopefully the new clientel will stick with you guys for a while.

mechanicvirus 05-01-2006 05:10 PM

Congrats on more business, it's always a good thing :)

After Shock Media 05-01-2006 05:11 PM

Right now she has to hope that at least a third of these people will bow out and not accept the estimates or just be one time jobs.

She is already running two crews 6 days a week 8am to 5pm and if 2/3rds of these stick it will be 8am to 7pm. She just can not find enough damn labor even at 25.00 an hour.

Pornwolf 05-01-2006 05:14 PM

That's a great problem to have.

After Shock Media 05-01-2006 05:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Pornwolf
That's a great problem to have.

Actually it fucking sucks ass.

Another crew can mean taking on another 60-80 clients a week. That is like an additional 3500.00 a week. I know she could get the clients just can not get or keep the damn labor.

crockett 05-01-2006 05:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by After Shock Media
Possibly.

The damn downside and ironic part is despite that she pays damn high wages and other bennifits. It is almost impossible for her to find decent labor that will do the damn jobs. Has been since she started. It has been the double edged sword so to speak.

With this increase in business (most clients remain on year after year) another crew will be needed and it will be almost impossible to fill a crew that meets her standards, can do the job, can handle the job, and are not fucking lazy.

Dude I know that's the truth.. I started a Lawn business when I was in high school and ran it for 10 years before I had enough of the BS. We did nothing but large commercial accounts like big apartment complexes and commercial properties.

Was hell keeping any help around, I finally got so burnt out on it I got out of the biz. 10 years was 10 too many.

69pornlinks 05-01-2006 05:28 PM

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Originally Posted by crockett
Dude I know that's the truth.. I started a Lawn business when I was in high school and ran it for 10 years before I had enough of the BS. We did nothing but large commercial accounts like big apartment complexes and commercial properties.

Was hell keeping any help around, I finally got so burnt out on it I got out of the biz. 10 years was 10 too many.

so in the others words only SA's are good for this type of work

After Shock Media 05-01-2006 05:37 PM

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Originally Posted by 69pornlinks
so in the others words only SA's are good for this type of work

Actually anyone that can handle dealing with hard manual labor all day long day in and day out. Well hell it is not even that hard anymore due to the machines. Just so damn many people are so fucking beyond lazy that it does not even rate as funny. They feel entitled to a fifteen minute break every hour, they want to drag their ass and take thirty minutes to do something that takes ten. They tend to find the longest route possible between locations despite being given shortest route maps. They leave tools behind just so that can go pick them back up. They can not handle the simplist forms of paperwork without help. They take no initiative and need constant supervision on the job, if you do not point it out then explain it like you would to a child and then watch them they can not even get started.

I am not to sure where everything went wrong. I just know that we need to either import some more midwesterners or find some more second generation mexican american workers who are fluent in english.

Pornwolf 05-01-2006 05:37 PM

Wow, that sounds like a serious issue then. Maybe you guys need to find some eastern european help and tell them not to talk to anyone so that clients think it's still 100% USA workers.

Alex 05-01-2006 05:40 PM

Congrats.

This is good news for all. People that run honest businesses that contribute to the economy like you and your wife should prosper.

After Shock Media 05-01-2006 05:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Pornwolf
Wow, that sounds like a serious issue then. Maybe you guys need to find some eastern european help and tell them not to talk to anyone so that clients think it's still 100% USA workers.

Nope that would be dishonest and we do not play that game.

Pornwolf 05-01-2006 05:44 PM

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Originally Posted by After Shock Media
Nope that would be dishonest and we do not play that game.

Dude, I was kidding. LOL

crockett 05-01-2006 05:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 69pornlinks
so in the others words only SA's are good for this type of work

No not really, not unless they are legal and speak english. Cusatomers we had wouldn't put up with crews full of illegals that couldn't speak english.

After Shock Media 05-01-2006 05:49 PM

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Originally Posted by crockett
No not really, not unless they are legal and speak english. Cusatomers we had wouldn't put up with crews full of illegals that couldn't speak english.

They apparently where dealing with them here as long as the crew chief was American. I have witnessed these crews first hand though and the damn chief just sits on his ass and directs the Mexicans. I am positive that is the only damn reason why they stay on the job. Plus we hired one once and he was one of the worst and laziest people we ever had. He was fired within two days.

fl_prn_str 05-01-2006 06:58 PM

Congrats.

Phil 05-01-2006 07:04 PM

mexicans will be back tomorrow and she'll just waste her time doing free estimates.

Solid Bob 05-01-2006 07:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by After Shock Media
Possibly.

The damn downside and ironic part is despite that she pays damn high wages and other bennifits. It is almost impossible for her to find decent labor that will do the damn jobs. Has been since she started. It has been the double edged sword so to speak.

With this increase in business (most clients remain on year after year) another crew will be needed and it will be almost impossible to fill a crew that meets her standards, can do the job, can handle the job, and are not fucking lazy.

That's where illegals come in. :1orglaugh

After Shock Media 05-01-2006 07:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CAMOKAT
mexicans will be back tomorrow and she'll just waste her time doing free estimates.

I am looking foward to it. As far as free estimates go we are not worried. We always call before showing up and I scheaduled them all starting on Wednesday. I just do not forsee to many of them changing their minds. The people up here are picky, want it their way, and you must never ever miss a day.

minusonebit 05-01-2006 07:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by After Shock Media
As I have stated before my fiance owns and operates a landscaping/yard care business. She has always have only used American labor and it has been advertised that way since day one. It allowed her to stand out as well as her clients were more apt to pay a premium price for the service.

Nothing would of or could of prepared me for today. Typically she may get five to ten calls a week from potential new clients, except on Tuesdays when the garden section runs in the paper and she gets around ten estimates on that day. So a typical week would have fifteen to twenty.

Well everyone and their damn brother has been calling today and bitching up a storm about other companies not showing up. They want them replaced. I handle the phones for her while she is out in the field with the crews. At first I was just setting up estimates but the calls kept coming. So I started trying to weed some out by quoting out the per hour rate + 5.00 per man hour. Nobody is even price shy right now.

It is currently 3:40 when I am making this post. It has taken me almost ten minutes to do so because of stopping to answer the phone. Right now she currently has thirty two estimates to do this week with over two thirds at the pre explained price point.

I think the damn illegals are going to get a good, old fasioned lesson about America and they sure deserve it. After all, they keep telling us how bad they want to be here, right? Well, I think the mexicans are going to learn the very important role scab workers play in a strike. If you dont do your job, someone else will.

Congrats on your windfall and thanks for supporting our country by hiring people who have a right to be here. Use the money to expand your crew and make your company stronger.

minusonebit 05-01-2006 07:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CAMOKAT
mexicans will be back tomorrow and she'll just waste her time doing free estimates.

Nope, wrong again. A few bargain hunters might switch back if they are offered a lower price, but most consumers dont like having thier plans disrupted because thier vendor dosent feel like working today. Companies that allow this kinda shit to happen are screwing themselves.

Oh well, there are probably still some liberal homes that need done.

After Shock Media 05-01-2006 07:23 PM

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Originally Posted by minusonebit
Nope, wrong again. A few bargain hunters might switch back if they are offered a lower price, but most consumers dont like having thier plans disrupted because thier vendor dosent feel like working today. Companies that allow this kinda shit to happen are screwing themselves.

Oh well, there are probably still some liberal homes that need done.

Umm we are liberal ourselves. Many of our clients are as well then the rest are old school republicans (before christian hijacking of party, less government etc). Yet even the most liberal of clients stop the political view points the second it lands on their door step. Actually seems to work with all parties, everything is fine until it effects them and their personal plans.

Solid Bob 05-01-2006 07:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by minusonebit
I think the damn illegals are going to get a good, old fasioned lesson about America and they sure deserve it. After all, they keep telling us how bad they want to be here, right? Well, I think the mexicans are going to learn the very important role scab workers play in a strike. If you dont do your job, someone else will.

Congrats on your windfall and thanks for supporting our country by hiring people who have a right to be here. Use the money to expand your crew and make your company stronger.

Can you not tell from this thread that if you won't do an illegal workers typical job not many will? How can you see the opposite end of the spectrum on this when he clearly said it's hard as hell to keep even well paid employees in that line of work? Mexicans have been doing lawn care, roofing, construction, farming, and dozens of other jobs that lazy Americans won't do for a long damn time. You think they are the ones that will get a wake-up call? I think it's the American public that wants their yard cut every week on time and at a low price. :thumbsup


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