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Pathfinder 04-28-2002 12:10 PM

My Resolution:
 
My resolution to the Israel and Palestinian problem.

It is my understanding that when the UN ordered the original partition the "Palestinians" were left without a contiguos border.

Even if I am incorrect about that; the current situation is that the Palestinians currently do not have a contiguos border and are divided into 13 different areas, with the areas in between being controlled by the Israelies.

My resolution is the following:

#1. The UN order a new partition with the "Palestinians" having a contiguous border.

#2. We put pressure on Israel and the Palestinians to accept without argument the new partition. Israel cannot exist without the billions of dollars we give them each year in financial and military aid, so they will have to comply. The Palestinians should readily accept because in will give them an independent country with a contiguos border.

#3: An outside military force is put in the area, preferrably from that part of the world, but if necessary a UN force, or NATO force. A no man's land separating the border between the two countries, replete with outposts, roving patrols, and electronic sensors, to keep infiltration to a minimum.

#4: Any acts of terrorism by either side to be handled in the World Court.

#5: A massive input of money (preferrably by the Muslim world) to the Palestinians to rebuild their country and develop a viable economy.

#6: Keep this outside military force in place for at least two or more generations. When both economies are doing well, when the newer generations, are enjoying the fruits of peace and a reasonable economy, the hatred will reside.


Will this plan imediately stop all of the killing. No; but it should reduce it, maybe, by 90% and as generations pass, maybe more.

vidsweb 04-28-2002 12:12 PM

Here we go again.

This board really needs a "comments about Isreal and Palestine" section.

Amputate Your Head 04-28-2002 12:15 PM

my resolution:

fuck 'em both.... let 'em kill each other till they're gone, then put a big ass Walmart on the land.

BabeHunter 04-28-2002 12:18 PM

i thought that ppl on this board will stop with this shit but some ppl don't get the clue...
i have some stuff to tell you...

1. there are a lot smarter ppl then you trying to find an answer
2. billions...pressure on Israel...bla...bla...bla...it won't work...and i don't want to explain why...but you know it won't
3. no man's land...the WHOLE country is smaller then the state of Florida...you can drive from north to south in 8h or so and from west to east in about 3h...

there is a resulotion...Jordan has 85% palestinians
easy math Jordan 85% palestinans 20% others= Palestine
Israel 80% israelis 20% palestinans = ISRAEL

i'm tired of getting into this every time...but you leave me now choice...even if i won't change your mind...i must write it...

PEACE AND LOVE

Tipsy 04-28-2002 12:24 PM

My resolution is 1024x768 if that helps

Pathfinder 04-28-2002 12:33 PM

BabeHunter:

The people working the problem are not very smart as it has been a problem since 1948.

As far as pressure on Israel: Israel cannot exist without the financial and military aid we provide them, so they will comply, if we cut the aid off.

A no man's land can be a mile or less in width, so of course there can be a no man's land.

Your resolution is not workable, my resolution can be workable.

BabeHunter 04-28-2002 12:41 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Pathfinder
BabeHunter:

The people working the problem are not very smart as it has been a problem since 1948.

As far as pressure on Israel: Israel cannot exist without the financial and military aid we provide them, so they will comply, if we cut the aid off.

1. it's not since 1948...the occupation started on 1967 (a war we didn't start)

2. the U.S will never stop their support for Israel...for tons of reasons starting from the powerful jews that are in "key places"
and ending at the fact that israel is the only democratic country (and a lot of the U.S info about the terrorists groups is comming from the israeli "Mosad" )

there is no point keep on talking about it here...nothing you say will change what ppl think...and nothing i say will do...
i just have to say it

[Labret] 04-28-2002 12:44 PM

There is only one solution.

ZyklonB

Pathfinder 04-28-2002 12:52 PM

BabeHunter:

The attacks on Israel began in 1948 and the dispute between the "Palestinians" and the Arab world, with Israel, has been on going ever since, the partition.

Will the USA allow the destruction of Israel; no. Can we control Israel's actions, absolutely. Do we need Israel; no. Does Israel need us; yes.

FATPad 04-28-2002 12:57 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Pathfinder
BabeHunter:

The attacks on Israel began in 1948 and the dispute between the "Palestinians" and the Arab world, with Israel, has been on going ever since, the partition.

Will the USA allow the destruction of Israel; no. Can we control Israel's actions, absolutely. Do we need Israel; no. Does Israel need us; yes.

In 1948, the Palestinians had a chance to have their own country. The UN Resolution that created Israel also set aside land for a Palestinian nation. The Palestinians and the rest of the Arab world declined. They wanted no Israel nation to exist at all, and were planning on simply killing it when it was setup.

They lost.

They tried again in 1967. Lost again. Israel takes the spoils of war and occupies land so that it can't be used as a launching pad for similar acts of aggression in the future.

2000 - Israel offers to make huge concessions to the Palestinians, including land for their own country. Palestine declines, and orders more suicide bombings.

The Palestinians had their chances. The Arabs and the Palestinians have always refused the path of peace until they realize they simply can't kill Israel and then start bleating about how unfair life is.

Amputate Your Head 04-28-2002 12:58 PM

I agree with FATpad....

but will add that, all Palestinians must die.

Pathfinder 04-28-2002 12:59 PM

FatPad:

That is history and not a solution. The past is the past and now is now. A solution is required for the current situation.

hyper 04-28-2002 01:02 PM

i'm getting a headache with this shit

Pathfinder 04-28-2002 01:04 PM

Amputate Your Head:

If that is your true feelings, so be it, but it is not a solution, because the world, inculding the USA, will not allow the genocide of the Palestinians.

Pathfinder 04-28-2002 01:05 PM

hyper:

Take two aspirins.

FATPad 04-28-2002 01:06 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Pathfinder
FatPad:

That is history and not a solution. The past is the past and now is now. A solution is required for the current situation.

Sure. A solution that makes sense.

Unfortunately, you're assuming the Palestinians want a country. They don't. They want to kill all the Jews. Anything less and they will keep bombing Israel.

Amputate Your Head 04-28-2002 01:07 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Pathfinder
Amputate Your Head:

If that is your true feelings, so be it, but it is not a solution, because the world, inculding the USA, will not allow the genocide of the Palestinians.

okay fine..... but it IS possible to beat them into complete submission and force them to either live with the Israelis or move the fuck out to somewhere else where they ARE wanted. The fucking crybabies have been whining for too goddamned long and the whole fucking world is sick and tired of it. Israel is NOT going away. They need to shut the fuck up, get over it, and get on with life.

FATPad 04-28-2002 01:12 PM

Besides, negotiating with terrorists is a poor precedent.

All it does is teach every other whacko in the world that if they want something they need to kill a few hundred women and children and they'll get what they want.

If the Palestinians had acted civilized and not like a bunch of barbarians stuck in the dark ages, this could have been solved years ago.

Burden of action for peace is on Palestine now. Israel has done all that should be expected of it. So whatever happens to Palestine now, happens. They made their bed, they can lie in it.

gallerypost 04-28-2002 01:16 PM

ppl some of you already got the point but i guess there are some that haven't
the war with the Palestinians isn't about land it's about the fact that israel it's the only democracy in the middle east.

in the POA they execute ppl every day because of their opinions about Arafat or something.

The POA and the Arab counties can do nothing military about israel because their ass will be kicked like always,
just think what will happen if all the counties in the middle east will be dictatorship? what will be then? all of that place will become the dark side of the planet, how many Bin ladens will be grownup there?

we are lucky that Israel is there to take care of out business

Pathfinder 04-28-2002 01:17 PM

FATPad:

I am assuming the hatred runs so deep that there will be Palestinians that will want to kill to Israelians, country or no country. That is what the outside military force and the no man's land is for, to reduce the killing, by both sides, to a minimum.

Amputate Your Head:

The world, inculding the USA, will not allow the Palestinians, to be beaten into complete submission. So that is not a viable solution.

BabeHunter 04-28-2002 01:17 PM

bla bla bla

there are too many powerful jew in the U.S
so there is no way the U.S will stop the support...
and trsut me the U.S needs israel...
if you didn't know...the U.S "won" the cold war against the Ussr
just because the info that the israeli agents gave them!

go and read some history!
THERE WERE NO PALESTINIANS IN 1948!
the arabs who live there started to call them self like that in 1964!

do some reading before you post

[Labret] 04-28-2002 01:20 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by BabeHunter

THERE WERE NO PALESTINIANS IN 1948!


do some reading before you post

There were no Israelis in 1948.

Amputate Your Head 04-28-2002 01:20 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Pathfinder
The world, inculding the USA, will not allow the Palestinians, to be beaten into complete submission. So that is not a viable solution.
I think it sounds like a much better solution than going over there to be the fucking police force for the rest of eternity.... we already police too fucking much of the world.... I say, take the leash off Israel and let them eliminate the fucking problem themselves.

gallerypost 04-28-2002 01:22 PM

[QUOTE]Originally posted by [Labret]


There were no Israelis in 1948.
[/QUOTE

but there was like !@#!@#!@ arabs countries, so why a little country like israel aren't allowed to exist buy the arabs countries ?

it's like have 0.1% of the land of the arabs countries.... so why they wanna remove it ?

BCZ THEY DON'T WANT DEMOCRETIC COUNTRY IN THE MIDDLE EAST !

BabeHunter 04-28-2002 01:22 PM

Jordan for Palestinians

gallerypost 04-28-2002 01:26 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by BabeHunter
Jordan for Palestinians
YES ! That's a nice idea... there are soooo many arabs countries around with sooo much free land... only the free land that they have is like 100 times bigger than the whole land that israel has... so ... why the palestines can't go there ?

BabeHunter 04-28-2002 01:27 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by gallerypost

why the palestines can't go there ?

because they gay

Amputate Your Head 04-28-2002 01:28 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by gallerypost
so ... why the palestines can't go there ?
because the Palestinians are ignorant, hateful, sheep... and should forevermore be treated as such.

Pathfinder 04-28-2002 01:29 PM

BabeHunter:

Point out to me where I said there were Palestinians in 1948. If you will put on your glasses and reread my original post, I put quotes around "Palestinians" for lack of a better word for the indiginents.

One of the most amazing statements (and untrue) I have ever read. "the U.S won the cold war against the Ussr
just because the info that the israeli agents gave them!"

BabeHunter 04-28-2002 01:31 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Pathfinder

One of the most amazing statements (and untrue) I have ever read. "the U.S won the cold war against the Ussr
just because the info that the israeli agents gave them!"

red some history and find out that the U.S got the "Kroshow" speech because of the israeli agents and that gave them a lot of info about the real ussr power and stuff

i see that your history knowledge goes as far as 2 years back so i won't have this disscusion with you...

[Labret] 04-28-2002 01:32 PM

The Jews killed Jesus.

BabeHunter 04-28-2002 01:33 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by [Labret]
The Jews killed Jesus.
Jesus was a jew

the romans killed jesus

[Labret] 04-28-2002 01:38 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by BabeHunter


Jesus was a jew

the romans killed jesus

Jesus was sold out by the Pharisee who didnt like him proclaiming he was the Son of God. The ultimate blasphemy.

The Romans merely executed him... after the Pharisee convinced Pilate that Jesus was proclaiming to be the King of the Jews. And if there is one thing the Romans did not like...

gallerypost 04-28-2002 01:39 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by [Labret]
The Jews killed Jesus.
Well... that is just showing.. that labert wishing all jews to be dead... is he just a nazi and that's it...

everyone please add him to your INGNORE LIST !

Amputate Your Head 04-28-2002 01:39 PM

Jesus is dead???

damn.. he just fixed my brakes last week.... I didn't even know he was sick...

BabeHunter 04-28-2002 01:39 PM

bla bla bla
this is getting boring
i'm out

have fun ppl

Amputate Your Head 04-28-2002 01:44 PM

wanna know how to put and end to this shit?

We (the US) annexes Israel and make it a US State. Do you think this shit would continue for one single day if it was the US that they were continuously attacking?

I think not.

Ridiculous? Yes.... but true. If that was us over there, we would be cleaning house right now.

FATPad 04-28-2002 01:49 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Amputate Your Head
wanna know how to put and end to this shit?

We (the US) annexes Israel and make it a US State. Do you think this shit would continue for one single day if it was the US that they were continuously attacking?

I think not.

Ridiculous? Yes.... but true. If that was us over there, we would be cleaning house right now.

That's the other thing. :)

If it was Canada bombing us every other week, you think we'd be talking about negotiations and a no man's land and all that?

Nope. We'd be dividing Canada up into states right now, and that would be that.

It's pretty hypocritical of us to declare "war on terror" then tell the Israelis they can't stop the people who commit terrorist acts against them every chance they get.

Amputate Your Head 04-28-2002 01:51 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by FATPad
We'd be dividing Canada up into states right now, and that would be that.
damn straight bro.

[Labret] 04-28-2002 01:51 PM

Quote:

"Pilate said to them, 'What then may I do to Jesus called the Anointed?'

They all (the Jews) said to him, 'Let Him be crucified.'

But he said, 'For what bad thing did He do?'

But they the more cried out, saying, 'Let Him be crucified!'

And Pilate, seeing that nothing is gained, but rather an uproar happened, taking water he washed the hands before the crowd, saying, 'I am innocent from this blood; you will see.'

And answering, all the people said, 'His blood is on us and on our children'"

(Matthew 27:22-25)



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