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DamageX 02-22-2006 04:01 PM

Autographed Beatles pic, value?
 
A friend of mine has an autographed picture of Beatles and he's considering auctioning it off, anyone know of what value it could have?

After Shock Media 02-22-2006 04:05 PM

Which autograph?

Azlord 02-22-2006 04:09 PM

The whole band? COA and shit?

Nismo 02-22-2006 04:10 PM

tree fiddy.

DamageX 02-22-2006 04:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by After Shock Media
Which autograph?

ALL of them.

I have it scanned somewhere, let me upload it.

FuqALot 02-22-2006 04:14 PM

I'll buy it for $100.

Scott McD 02-22-2006 04:14 PM

:2 cents: :2 cents: :2 cents:

czarina 02-22-2006 04:16 PM

come on, upload it.
If it's a good photo, he can probably get a couple grand for it.
Or if he waits until the next Beatle dies, he will get a boatload of money

webgurl 02-22-2006 04:16 PM

he can get probably good bucks on it ,
tell him to try ebay !

DamageX 02-22-2006 04:18 PM

Here's a scanned copy:

[IMG]http://www.************/beatles2.jpg[/IMG]

X37375787 02-22-2006 04:19 PM

wow that'll bring a few g... if authentic.

DamageX 02-22-2006 04:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Equinox
wow that'll bring a few g... if authentic.

It's very real, I scanned it myself. He has it in a safety deposit box. As you can see, it's not in the best of shapes, so he only took it out for me to scan it. I'm inclined to believe the signatures are authentic as well.

FuqALot 02-22-2006 04:23 PM

That's some good stuff. I'm willing to bet people are ready to pay way more than $100 for that hehe.

X37375787 02-22-2006 04:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DamageX
It's very real, I scanned it myself. He has it in a safety deposit box. As you can see, it's not in the best of shapes, so he only took it out for me to scan it. I'm inclined to believe the signatures are authentic as well.


I didn't doubt that it existed, I doubted the authenticity of the sigs. Good luck to your friend!

DamageX 02-22-2006 04:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Equinox
I didn't doubt that it existed, I doubted the authenticity of the sigs. Good luck to your friend!

I'm thinking the same, him and his wife are expecting a baby, so selling this may never have been more opportune. :)

After Shock Media 02-22-2006 04:25 PM

He may want to get it authenticated first and then inserted into some acid free sheets to prevent more aging and scratches.

DamageX 02-22-2006 04:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FuqALot
That's some good stuff. I'm willing to bet people are ready to pay way more than $100 for that hehe.

Yep, I'm thinking the same. Good try with the $100 bid though, was worth a shot. :thumbsup

suesheboy 02-22-2006 04:27 PM

I have a an orginal "Bag One" if anyone is will to shell out some bucks.

Hand made.

VERY, VERY rare...

DamageX 02-22-2006 04:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by After Shock Media
He may want to get it authenticated first and then inserted into some acid free sheets to prevent more aging and scratches.

Good tip, thanks, I'll have him do both.

Grapesoda 02-22-2006 04:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DamageX
A friend of mine has an autographed picture of Beatles and he's considering auctioning it off, anyone know of what value it could have?

send me an email . .. I know a guy that buys that stuff

Matt 26z 02-22-2006 04:43 PM

Are you sure those autographs are real, and not just printed on there? Put it under a microscope (I use a cheap handheld one) and take a look.

Signed Beatles stuff is difficult to put a value on because it depends on where you sell it and who is willing to buy it.

What size is that photo? It looks about 3x5. I wouldn't accept less than $550 for it, but like I say if the right person comes along at the right place you could get more. How much more? That's a tough call. It's not worth thousands or anything, but it's a nice piece nonetheless.

DamageX 02-22-2006 04:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bmb
send me an email . .. I know a guy that buys that stuff

E-mail sent, thank you.

Matt 26z 02-22-2006 05:10 PM

Is there anything printed on the back?

Now that I think about it, this is most likely a Beatles trading card. Similar to baseball cards, only there were several different sets released for the Beatles.

Here's some examples, note the blue "autographs"

http://cgi.ebay.com/Beatles-Trading-... cmdZViewItem

http://cgi.ebay.com/The-Beatles-old-...c mdZViewItem

BusterBunny 02-22-2006 05:14 PM

i will trade an autographed roided out mark mcguire baseball card for it

MikeFold 02-22-2006 05:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by After Shock Media
He may want to get it authenticated first and then inserted into some acid free sheets to prevent more aging and scratches.

This is the correct advice.
It is worth mid to high four figures if they are authentic (not stamped or otherwise), although only the first names may decrease its value.
They appear authentic to me not knowing if they are original. Depends also on size and condition.

Here is a similiar example:
http://www.fab4collectibles.com/AA036.htm

DamageX 02-22-2006 05:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Matt 26z
Is there anything printed on the back?

Now that I think about it, this is most likely a Beatles trading card. Similar to baseball cards, only there were several different sets released for the Beatles.

Here's some examples, note the blue "autographs"

http://cgi.ebay.com/Beatles-Trading-... cmdZViewItem

http://cgi.ebay.com/The-Beatles-old-...c mdZViewItem

It's a photgraph, not a trading card.

darkwood 02-22-2006 05:29 PM

i am looking into it for you i will post the answer soon

DamageX 02-22-2006 05:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by darkwood
i am looking into it for you i will post the answer soon

Thanks, appreciate it. :)

darkwood 02-22-2006 05:34 PM

It's not real - It's pre-printed signatures that were produced by the thousands.

DamageX 02-22-2006 05:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by darkwood
It's not real - It's pre-printed signatures that were produced by the thousands.

I don't know, looked damn authentic when I looked at it.

Matt 26z 02-22-2006 05:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DamageX
It's a photgraph, not a trading card.

My bet is that it's a promo photo then with pre-printed autographs. The color of the ink isn't that of a ball point pen of the time. It could be your scanner bringing out the blue, but I'd expect to see the blue ink blend in with the black photo more if it were an actual pen. It should not stand out like that over the black parts, at least I've never seen it. It's also first names only, and the autographs look flawless. All of this is very consistent with printed autographs.

Like I say, look at it through magnification. That'll tell you for sure if it's a pen or printed. All I have to go on is your scan.

The 3rd party authentication thing.... Serious collectors don't put any stock in that sort of thing, but it can help sell to the people stupid enough to pay the "mid to high four figures" that MikeFold stated.

On eBay... on a good day... you'd be lucky to get high three figures for this if it's not a pre-print.

DamageX 02-22-2006 05:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Matt 26z
My bet is that it's a promo photo then with pre-printed autographs. The color of the ink isn't that of a ball point pen of the time. It could be your scanner bringing out the blue, but I'd expect to see the blue ink blend in with the black photo more if it were an actual pen. It should not stand out like that over the black parts, at least I've never seen it. It's also first names only, and the autographs look flawless. All of this is very consistent with printed autographs.

Like I say, look at it through magnification. That'll tell you for sure if it's a pen or printed. All I have to go on is your scan.

The 3rd party authentication thing.... Serious collectors don't put any stock in that sort of thing, but it can help sell to the people stupid enough to pay the "mid to high four figures" that MikeFold stated.

On eBay... on a good day... you'd be lucky to get high three figures for this if it's not a pre-print.

I took a long look at it when I scanned it. The signatures all had different depth around the letters, as from different stroke pressure. I also thought about the ink color, but I attributed it to time aging it and the picture not being kept in the most ideal environments. Either way, thanks for your input, it's much appreciated.

PixeLs 02-22-2006 05:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DamageX
It's very real, I scanned it myself. He has it in a safety deposit box. As you can see, it's not in the best of shapes, so he only took it out for me to scan it. I'm inclined to believe the signatures are authentic as well.

Yeah, looks authentic indeed. I don't know the exact value of that but sure enough, that's still a hot item. :pimp

crockett 02-22-2006 05:52 PM

My mom has one of the first series of their original album.. I remember reading about it a while back like 10 years ago and it was valued at around 10 grand then.

So regardless to say, I'm making sure that's in my inheritance.. lol

DamageX 02-22-2006 05:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by crockett
My mom has one of the first series of their original album.. I remember reading about it a while back like 10 years ago and it was valued at around 10 grand then.

So regardless to say, I'm making sure that's in my inheritance.. lol

Good call. :)

Matt 26z 02-22-2006 06:05 PM

These authenticators are very well known in the sports collecting world. They also do non-sports. The Beatles will run you $150...

http://www.psadna.com/fees.chtml

The casual Beatles fan who is not confident in their own autograph authentication abilities would put a lot of stock into having such a COA with it. That is, if the PSA/DNA name means anything outside of sports. That I do not know.

MikeFold 02-22-2006 06:12 PM

as an aside to how difficult it is to find...i copied this article from a collectors page:
Although the Beatles broke up nearly 30 years ago [this was written mid-January, 2000], they remain hugely popular with both fans of their music and collectors of their memorabilia. Beatles items typically accounted for more than one-quarter of all major rock and roll auction lots in the last decade. A quick check of eBay will turn up literally hundreds of items.

But the most sought are their autographs ? both singly and as a group. The latter are, of course, the most valuable. A photo signed by the whole band is worth from $1,500 to $3,000. A tour program signed by the whole band is worth even more.

The first question to be asked, however, is ?How common are real Beatles autographs?? The answer, from knowledgeable collectors, is ?Not very.? Indeed, some collectors claim that these are the most commonly forged of all autographs.

Some of those forgeries have a claim to quasi-legitimacy of their own, however. When the Beatles came to America in 1964, their security was very tight. They took over entire floors in some hotels, with every access to their floors strongly guarded. The Beatles? road manager then was Neil Aspinall, and he is reported to have signed hundreds of actual items on the behalf of the band. Others in the Beatles entourage, including Mal Evans and a number of fan club secretaries also ?ghost-signed? items. While literally forgeries, they nonetheless have their own value due to the circumstances in which they were produced.

Experts believe there were only three occasions when the Beatles together sat down for autograph sessions. They are:

October 6, 1962 (one day after ?Love Me Do? was released) at Dawson?s Music Shop, in Lancashire, for half an hour at 4:00 pm.

January 24, 1963, at Brian Epstein?s NEMS Record Store (two weeks after ?Please, Please Me? was released).

December 14, 1963, at the Beatles London Fan Club Convention. Attendance was around 3,000, but few apparently did more than shake the band members? hands, and not many autograph requests were reported. This was the only occasion on which their two early albums, Please Please Me and With the Beatles, could have been autographed.

However, groupies, known as ?Apple Scruffs,? used to hang around the Abbey Road recording studios or in front of Apple Headquarters, hoping to get an autograph from a Beatle who was coming or going, and eventually get all four signatures on an album. Few of these autograph seekers were successful.

Thus it is only in their pre-celebrity days ? before 1963 ? that the Beatles were readily accessible for autographs. Items autographed by the band after 1963 are difficult enough to find, and, after 1969, extremely scarce. After the band stopped doing live concerts in 1966, they came together as a group mostly just for recording sessions, and that only until August, 1969.

Anyone seriously interested in collecting the Beatles? autographs needs to seek out copies of authentic signatures and learn to recognize their idiosyncrasies. Familiarize yourself with the genuine article before you make any purchases.

sfera 02-22-2006 06:16 PM

1 million probly

AVM 02-22-2006 06:21 PM

Fuck, that's sooooo pimp. That's my band for life....


If he can prove authenticity, let me know if you guys ever figure out a sale price. I'm interested.

[email protected]



Thanks.

jayeff 02-22-2006 06:31 PM

This thread reminds me of something I haven't thought about in years... in my teens The Beatles appeared locally at a theatre with which my mother had strong connections, so after the show I got to meet them for a few minutes and they autographed my copy of the Hard Day's Night album. The record and cover are still almost like new (I used to transfer my records to tape, so most were only ever played once). I guess that might be worth a few dollars.


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