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Mutt 10-15-2005 08:59 PM

Black On Black Crime
 
your thoughts?

LMike 10-15-2005 09:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Mutt
your thoughts?

Blacks "were 7 times more likely than whites to commit homicide in 2002".
http://www.ojp.usdoj.gov/bjs/homicide/race.htm


Blacks are four times more likely than Whites to kill their children...
http://www.ojp.usdoj.gov/bjs/homicide/kidsrates.txt


Based on current rates of first incarceration, an estimated 32% of black males will enter State or Federal prison during their lifetime, compared to 17% of Hispanic males and 5.9% of white males.

http://www.ojp.usdoj.gov/bjs/crimoff.htm

LMike 10-15-2005 09:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Mutt
your thoughts?

Blacks are responsible for 40.8% of all domestic violence cases, despite
being only 12% of the population.
See page 34:

http://www.ojp.usdoj.gov/bjs/pub/pdf/vi.pdf


Though only 12% of the population, blacks take 38.3% of the total of all
welfare payments. Whites are 72% of the population, and take 30.5% of the
total.

http://aspe.hhs.gov/hsp/leavers99/race.htm#fig1

Though only 12% of the population, blacks take 38% of taxpayer-subsidized housing

http://www.huduser.org/datasets/asst...6/descript.htm


welfare recipients and percent of the population

Race_______% of welfare_____% of population
Black________39%______________12%
White________31%_____________67-70%
Hispanic______25%______________15%

http://www.prcdc.org/summaries/poverty/poverty.html

Screaming 10-15-2005 09:10 PM

all that is fucking nuts

Mutt 10-15-2005 09:27 PM

the poll's intent was two fold - 1) to reel in DarkJedi aka LMike and
2)to poke fun at the media and assorted intellectuals

when black crime is discussed it doesn't take more than a few seconds or a few sentences down in the article to hear or read somebody state 'Black on white crime is actually low, the majority of black crime is black on black crime'

as if that's supposed to make it better 'hey chill out people, they're only killing each other!'

Playa-Deak 10-15-2005 09:31 PM

This thread just shows your mental capacity. A melon full of ignorance. And I bet you'll respond with some "I just made a thread" type BS. You're provoking racism. Not that this is gonna stop anything but you need to find peace within yourself cuz in the end. You'll know that if really ain't that serious.

bringer 10-15-2005 09:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Playa-Deak
This thread just shows your mental capacity. A melon full of ignorance. And I bet you'll respond with some "I just made a thread" type BS. You're provoking racism. Not that this is gonna stop anything but you need to find peace within yourself cuz in the end. You'll know that if really ain't that serious.

you're an idiot. BLACK! omg, i said it. i must be a racist! lucky for you the black leaders who say the white man is the devil are just expressing a fact rather then a racist opinion.

Mutt 10-15-2005 09:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Playa-Deak
This thread just shows your mental capacity. A melon full of ignorance. And I bet you'll respond with some "I just made a thread" type BS. You're provoking racism. Not that this is gonna stop anything but you need to find peace within yourself cuz in the end. You'll know that if really ain't that serious.

another idiot following in the footsteps of Al Sharpton and Jesse Jackson - there's a reason blacks continue to fall further and further behind as other minorities climb the ladder to success - poor leadership that cries 'racisim' without even thinking.

LMike 10-15-2005 09:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mutt
another idiot following in the footsteps of Al Sharpton and Jesse Jackson - there's a reason blacks continue to fall further and further behind as other minorities climb the ladder to success - poor leadership that cries 'racisim' without even thinking.

RACISS CRACKA TAPIK!!

Playa-Deak 10-15-2005 10:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mutt
another idiot following in the footsteps of Al Sharpton and Jesse Jackson - there's a reason blacks continue to fall further and further behind as other minorities climb the ladder to success - poor leadership that cries 'racisim' without even thinking.

Thnx for your knowledgable comments. Know where I can find some quality black traffic?

Antonio 10-16-2005 12:26 AM

http://pine.zero.ad.jp/~zac81405/image/chikatilo1.jpg

do you know who this man is???

before you start bitching about blacks always look into your own backyard

Paul Markham 10-16-2005 01:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Playa-Deak
This thread just shows your mental capacity. A melon full of ignorance. And I bet you'll respond with some "I just made a thread" type BS. You're provoking racism. Not that this is gonna stop anything but you need to find peace within yourself cuz in the end. You'll know that if really ain't that serious.

Exactly.

It is not all about colour it's also about income level.

Look at the wealth level of those in prisons and you will see most of them are in the bottom 10%. Because they do not have expensive lawyers to get them off and see a better future for themselves than resorting to crime.

Quote:

another idiot following in the footsteps of Al Sharpton and Jesse Jackson - there's a reason blacks continue to fall further and further behind as other minorities climb the ladder to success - poor leadership that cries 'racisim' without even thinking.
True to a point.

Look at all the countries in Africe who fought and killed to get independance of the Europeans and now hold their hands out for charity because their people are staving. Countries that used to export food and now need hand outs to survive.

While the rulers get fat and the spending on arms gets bigger.

Now compare them with India and the US. Colonies that did well after the Europeans left.

Playa-Deak 10-16-2005 01:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Paul Markham
Exactly.

It is not all about colour it's also about income level.

Look at the wealth level of those in prisons and you will see most of them are in the bottom 10%. Because they do not have expensive lawyers to get them off and see a better future for themselves than resorting to crime.

True to a point.

Look at all the countries in Africe who fought and killed to get independance of the Europeans and now hold their hands out for charity because their people are staving. Countries that used to export food and now need hand outs to survive.

While the rulers get fat and the spending on arms gets bigger.

Now compare them with India and the US. Colonies that did well after the Europeans left.

Nice post! :thumbsup

amalekite 10-16-2005 03:00 AM

black people are smart

they invented peanut butter

pussyserver - BANNED FOR LIFE 10-16-2005 08:59 AM

and open hart surgery

LMike 10-16-2005 09:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by amalekite
black people are smart

they invented peanut butter

Funny you mention that, but what has the negro invented besides rape and 20" chrome rims?

crockett 10-16-2005 09:37 AM

LMike hates black people.

pussyserver - BANNED FOR LIFE 10-16-2005 11:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LMike
Funny you mention that, but what has the negro invented besides rape and 20" chrome rims?

you know my girlfriend is black and as far as inventions and how smart they are uh umm here are a couple of inventions ( never knew a black person invented fiver optics) thanks for making me look this up


Black Inventors And Inventions
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Air Conditioning Unit Frederick M. Jones July 12, 1949
Almanac Benjamin Banneker Approx. 1791
Auto Cut-Off Switch Granville T. Woods January 1, 1839
Auto Fishing Devise G. Cook May 30, 1899
Automatic Gear Shift Richard Spikes February 28, 1932
Baby Buggy W. H. Richardson June 18, 1899
Bicycle Frame L.R. Johnson October 10, 1899
Biscuit Cutter A.P. Ashbourne November 30, 1875
Blood Plasma Bag Charles Drew Approx. 1945
Cellular Phone Henry T. Sampson July 6, 1971
Chamber Commode T. Elkins January 3, 1897
Clothes Dryer G.T. Sampson June 6, 1862
Curtain Rod S.R. Scratton November 30, 1889
Curtain Rod Support William S. Grant August 4, 1896
Door Stop O. Dorsey December 10, 1878
Dust Pan Lawrence P. Ray August 3, 1897
Egg Beater Willie Johnson February 5, 1884
Electric Lampbulb Lewis Latimer March 21, 1882
Elevator Alexander Miles October 11, 1867
Eye Protector P. Johnson November 2, 1880
Fire Escape Ladder J.W. Winters May 7, 1878
Folding Bed L.C. Bailey July 18, 1899
Folding Chair Brody & Surgwar June 11, 1889
Fountain Pen W.B. Purvis January 7, 1890
Furniture Caster O.A. Fisher 1878
Gas Mask Garrett Morgan October 13, 1914
Golf Tee T. Grant December 12, 1899
Guitar Robert F. Flemming, Jr. March 3, 1886
Hair Brush Lydia O. Newman November 15, 18--
Hand Stamp Walter B. Purvis February 27, 1883
Horse Shoe J. Ricks March 30, 1885
Ice Cream Scooper A.L. Cralle February 2, 1897
Improv. Sugar Making Norbet Rillieux December 10, 1846
Insect-Destroyer Gun A.C. Richard February 28, 1899
Ironing Board Sarah Boone December 30, 1887
Key Chain F.J. Loudin January 9, 1894
Lantern Michael c. Harvey August 19, 1884
Lawn Mower L.A. Burr May 19, 1889
Lemon Squeezer J. Thomas White December 8, 1893
Lock W.A. Martin July 23, 18--
Lubricating Cup Ellijah McCoy November 15, 1895
Lunch Pail James Robinson 1887
Mail Box Paul L. Downing October 27, 1891
Mop Thomas W. Stewart June 11, 1893
Motor Federick M. Jones June 27, 1939
Peanut Butter George Washington Carver 1896
Pencil Sharpener J.L. Love November 23, 1897
Record Player Arm Joseph Hunger Dickenson January 8, 1819
Refrigerator J. Standard June 14, 1891
Riding Saddles W.D., Davis Ocotber 6, 1895
Rolling Pin John W. Reed 1864
Shampoo Headrest C.O. Bailiff October 11, 1898
Spark Plug Edmond Berger February 2, 1839
Stethoscope Imhotep Ancient Egypt
Stove T.A. Carrington July 25, 1876
Straightening Comb Madam C.J. Walker Approx. 1905
Street Sweeper Charles B. Brooks March 17, 1890
Phone Transmitter Granville T. Woods December 2, 1884
Thermostat Control Frederick M. Jones February 23, 1960
Traffic Light Garrett Morgan November 20, 1923
Tricycle M.A. Cherry May 6, 1886
Typewriter Burridge & Marshman April 7, 1885

Other Things Invented By Blacks:

Chess - Super Water Blaster - Fiber Optics

plus many many more



now find another topic to use troll this one is stupid

pussyserver - BANNED FOR LIFE 10-16-2005 11:02 AM

Lewis Latimer
Lewis Latimer (1848?1928) invented an important part of the light bulb ? the carbon filament.

Fast Fact: Latimer worked in the laboratories of both Thomas Edison and Alexander Graham Bell.

Dalai lama 10-16-2005 11:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Antonio
http://pine.zero.ad.jp/~zac81405/image/chikatilo1.jpg

do you know who this man is???

before you start bitching about blacks always look into your own backyard

What he said.

pussyserver - BANNED FOR LIFE 10-16-2005 11:05 AM

Garrett Morgan
Garrett Morgan (1877?1963) invented the gas mask.

Fast Fact: Morgan also invented the first traffic signal.



Otis Boykin
Otis Boykin (1920?1982) invented the electronic control devices for guided missiles, IBM computers, and the pacemaker.

Fast Fact: Boykin invented 28 different electronic devices.



Dr. Patricia E. Bath
Dr. Patricia. E. Bath (1949?) invented a method of eye surgery that has helped many blind people to see.

Fast Fact: Dr. Bath has been nominated to the National Inventors Hall of Fame.


fuckin wow I cant believe I didnt know this stuff...damn I guess blacks have contributed more then what I even thought......wow

pussyserver - BANNED FOR LIFE 10-16-2005 11:10 AM

i dont know who mike is but man I applaud you, you have forced me to learn more about blacks in a day then 4 years at USF you-da-man ( I am being serious)






Did you know?

Jane Cooke Wright developed anticancer drugs.
Daniel Hale Williams was the first doctor to successfully perform open-heart surgery.
Michael Croslin computerized blood pressure device.
Percy Lavon Julian synthesized physotigmine, a drug used for the treatment of glaucoma.
Otis Boykin invented pace maker controls.
Phil Brooks invented the disposable syringe.
Charles Richard Drew developed a way to preserve blood, created the first blood bank, the American Red Cross, and developed a method to efficiently store blood plasma. He also developed a means of preserving blood plasma for transfusion. He was a surgeon, medical scientist and educator.
Dewey Sanderson invented urinalysis machine
Vivien Theodore Thomas worked on experiments on surgical shock and blue baby syndrome.
Benjamin S. Carson is the youngest chief of pediatric neurosurgery in the nation.
William Augustus Hinton was responsible for the Hinton test for syphilis. He also discovered the Davies-Hinton test of blood and spinal fluid.
Roscoe L. Koontz was the first formally trained health physicist .
Samuel Lee Kountz, Jr. discovered a technique that allows doctors to monitor the fall of the kidney blood supply following transplant surgery and to give certain amounts of drugs to patients to overcome rejection.
Rebecca J. Cole was the first black woman to graduate from the Woman?s Medical College in PA. Cole worked with Dr. Elizabeth Blackwell, the first white American woman physician to receive a medical degree

escorpio 10-16-2005 11:29 AM

I bet not one of those punk ass bitch Uncle Tom inventors been shot as many times as 50cent, yo.
http://www.oakland.edu/post/03052003...ent%20copy.gif
This here nigga keep it real as a muthafucka.

pussyserver - BANNED FOR LIFE 10-16-2005 11:31 AM

hahahahahahahahah lol

escorpio 10-16-2005 11:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Antonio
http://pine.zero.ad.jp/~zac81405/image/chikatilo1.jpg

do you know who this man is???

before you start bitching about blacks always look into your own backyard

You don't actually think you just discredited black on black crime stats by posting a pic of a white serial killer, do you?

pussyserver - BANNED FOR LIFE 10-16-2005 11:41 AM

who is that serial killer

escorpio 10-16-2005 11:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pussyserver
who is that serial killer

Andre Chikatilo

pussyserver - BANNED FOR LIFE 10-16-2005 11:55 AM

never heard of em. I do know that those sniper guys were black serial killers and in fact it was two of them. so two black serial killers and one white one :winkwink: but that dosent mean anything

oh well back to work

Winterverse 10-16-2005 01:43 PM

Not fighting to push any racism in this thread, people can easily throw statistics at blacks but keep in mind good things like slavery and segregation just ended a few generations ago. The same people who kept slavery and segregation alive have had signifigantly more time to establish grounds both financially and morally. You take people who have been treated like dogs for centuries and you expect them to magically become 'civilized' people when a handful of them still feel choked by society because they will never be playing on equal ground.

I could see if they came to America WILLINGLY but that isn't the case. People say "yeah it's easy to slam blacks but they're not helping themselves". On the contrary if you just look.. they're doing what they have been since they got here.. trying to survive by any means necessary. America put them in a perfection position.. squeezed out their usefulness and then 'proved' how savage they are by taking away what little they had and giving them nothing in return. If none of this was true you wouldn't have had black leaders like King and X. A friend of mines father still won't hire blacks no matter how educated.. yet his landlord is black.

But personally.. being neither black nor white, thats just how fucking America is. Racist. Deal with it or do what you have to and get the fuck out. Things aren't going to change for the minority, there is no reason to. Equality isn't a good enough reason, sadly enough. I can't fight for either side as I love women of ALL color :1orglaugh

Pleasurepays 10-16-2005 01:52 PM

when you blame everyone and everything around you for your problems, you will lose everytime. nothing new. you can't change the world around you to make your personal life better... you can only change yourself, accept responsibility, hold yourself accountable and work hard.

Winterverse 10-16-2005 01:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Pleasurepays
when you blame everyone and everything around you for your problems, you will lose everytime. nothing new. you can't change the world around you to make your personal life better... you can only change yourself, accept responsibility, hold yourself accountable and work hard.

Live as a minority in America and you may find things to be a bit differently. Although your words are right your environment decides 75% of your success, especially in a world where your face.. no matter how many times seen.. is still foreign in the eyes of the majority.

Hey You . . . I Know You! 10-16-2005 02:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pleasurepays
when you blame everyone and everything around you for your problems, you will lose everytime. nothing new. you can't change the world around you to make your personal life better... you can only change yourself, accept responsibility, hold yourself accountable and work hard.


Exactly Einstein.

If society fucks you over, you should accept responsibility and keep your stupid mouth shut. We need to be less concerned with fuckers complaining about society. Minorities are scumbags that need to know their place. Go clean my pool minority fuck.

Pleasurepays 10-16-2005 02:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Winterverse
Live as a minority in America and you may find things to be a bit differently. Although your words are right your environment decides 75% of your success, especially in a world where your face.. no matter how many times seen.. is still foreign in the eyes of the majority.

what the fuck does being a minority have to do with anything? are you saying that Kobe Bryant doesn't wake up everyday and work hard? 50 Cent is just some lazy asshole who can't show up at the studio? Oprah got lucky?

i grew up in a small town in alaska raised by inbred hillbillys that i haven't spoken to in 15 years. my environment had nothing to do with whether or not i would make money. what did was when i finally realized that i never wanted to be like them and decided to take responsibility for myself because no one else would. i woke up and realized i had to leave. i left. i busted my ass at everything i did... i did it for the exact opposite reason you said... i did not want to be like all the fucktards i grew up with.

thats a pathetic argument. obviously environment plays a role on shaping your views, habits etc. however, that has nothing to do with making money and being successful. no matter what, you have to open your eyes, work hard, make sacrifices, set goals and do what it takes to achieve them, no matter how hard it is.

booo fucking hooo... i am a minority so i have more excuses not to succeed than you do.

... well, too bad. that thinking will only hurt you... not me.

Winterverse 10-16-2005 02:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pleasurepays
what the fuck does being a minority have to do with anything? are you saying that Kobe Bryant doesn't wake up everyday and work hard? 50 Cent is just some lazy asshole who can't show up at the studio? Oprah got lucky?

i grew up in a small town in alaska raised by inbred hillbillys that i haven't spoken to in 15 years. my environment had nothing to do with whether or not i would make money. what did was when i finally realized that i never wanted to be like them and decided to take responsibility for myself because no one else would. i woke up and realized i had to leave. i left. i busted my ass at everything i did... i did it for the exact opposite reason you said... i did not want to be like all the fucktards i grew up with.

thats a pathetic argument. obviously environment plays a role on shaping your views, habits etc. however, that has nothing to do with making money and being successful. no matter what, you have to open your eyes, work hard, make sacrifices, set goals and do what it takes to achieve them, no matter how hard it is.

booo fucking hooo... i am a minority so i have more excuses not to succeed than you do.

... well, too bad. that thinking will only hurt you... not me.


Plucking an incredibly small handful of people out of an even smaller pile doesn't prove anything. Weeding out a select few does not represent the majority same as Bill Gates and Trump doesn't represent every caucasian in America. Your conquest over your environment doesn't mean shit because you don't represent any minorities' majority. Congratulations, you were capable, but just as easily as you busted your ass the color of your skin could, (and as I'm told often does in America), have kept you from succeeding regardless of how hard you worked.

I'm not even saying minorities deserve a pass on anything.. I'm saying it's pathetic to throw down that everyone has an equal chance because they don't, it's bullshit, and documented year about horrible school systems and subpar communities. People make it seem like poor communities can magically fucking make money off the same poor people that live there by owning businesses. Not going to happen because they don't have any money to begin with. See how that works?

From what I've read those people who live there were put in those communities when good 'ol segregation finally was broken. So it's not like blacks, for instance, were given golden farms and then they lost it, see what I'm saying? Average society has an incredibly higher chance to succeed. Most Americans like to relax on the thought that everyone is equal.. most black's grandmothers were victims of segregation. So you're talking about.. maybe.. 3 generations of starting ground till now where as the rest of the country has had.. how many is it?

Have to forgive my grammer.. English is not my first language.

Pleasurepays 10-16-2005 02:56 PM

you two are hilarious. making a 5000 year old argument about how to live a better life. your solution is to change the world around you, right all the wrongs (real and percieved) and level the playing field in every possible way... and that will automatically pave the way to success and prosperity for all. ok Chairman Mao. whatever.

the problem is that the world and people just don't work like that. there will always be stupid people. there will always be corrupt people. there will always be people who would rather cheat and steal than work hard. there will always be people looking for a hand out. there will always be lazy people. there will always be people blaming someone or something else for their problems. that doesn't stop no matter what you change. been tried time and time again.

Pleasurepays 10-16-2005 02:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Winterverse
I'm not even saying minorities deserve a pass on anything.. I'm saying it's pathetic to throw down that everyone has an equal chance because they don't, it's bullshit, and documented year about horrible school systems and subpar communities.

everyone has the same chance to leave for some place better and to start over. funny that millions of people who grew up on a dirt floor, with 20 brothers and sisters all living on $5.00 a month can somehow cross the world to come to the US to open a business and make more money than the average slob here... yet some dumb fuck in Brooklyn can't because lifes just not fair. give me a break.

pornpf69 10-16-2005 03:12 PM

who cares about my opinion?

Playa-Deak 10-16-2005 03:18 PM

Wanna know what else is ironic... Intellect... Can equal ignorance... You so gotdamn smart till you dumb ass fuck!!!

Winterverse 10-16-2005 03:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pleasurepays
you two are hilarious. making a 5000 year old argument about how to live a better life. your solution is to change the world around you, right all the wrongs (real and percieved) and level the playing field in every possible way... and that will automatically pave the way to success and prosperity for all. ok Chairman Mao. whatever.

the problem is that the world and people just don't work like that. there will always be stupid people. there will always be corrupt people. there will always be people who would rather cheat and steal than work hard. there will always be people looking for a hand out. there will always be lazy people. there will always be people blaming someone or something else for their problems. that doesn't stop no matter what you change. been tried time and time again.

Obviously you're not reading as well as you argue. No where did I say the solution was for everyone to turn around and start loving the other color. No where did I say any minority or any individual should be entitled to more. No where did I say the world and people need to change for things in America to be 'right'.

The term 'right' alone is based off society, and in America's society, 'right' changes with every new decade. America is a racist country. I'm fine with it, I deal with it, else I would move the fuck out.

What I'm saying is actually wrong is those people who sit and blame the lack of minority upcoming directly upon minorities, particularly blacks in this instance. How did blacks come to this country? How were they treated, how much education were they allowed? What stereotype is perpetuated by the country for financial gain? What exactly has the rest of the country done to ensure everyone was playing on equal ground? They've done nothing, never have, and don't intend to. Any political aid has been for votes.

Hell, even your churches which scream all men under god were created equal turned a blind eye to the horrific treatment of slaves. Funny how many in those days preached the bible, praise the lord, everyone is under jesus and allow all men to be saved. Oh, all excepts for the ni&&ers. Because they're not human.

Your environment/background is a by far strong depiction of your chances of survival. Even hillbillys could be confused with uppity whites with the right suit. There are a few that will break out from it.. but to say all is equal and blacks are where they are because they put themselves there is in every aspect of the word; bullshit.

Sly 10-16-2005 03:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Playa-Deak
Wanna know what else is ironic... Intellect... Can equal ignorance... You so gotdamn smart till you dumb ass fuck!!!

Wow. I feel honored to be graced here at GFY by someone as intellectual as this chap.


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