WTF Paid Listings????????
 

So a good friend bought a submit pass for a well known TGP. He submits and submits and doesn't get listed, and gets no explanation on why, finally after many unanswered emails, he emails once again to a diff address, and they say they won't list his galleries because of the registrar he used for his domain names??????????????!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! WTF!!!!!!!!!!???????????
I have heard crazy shit, but this? Any ideas?
nik :321GFY

Who is the registrar? What is the TGP? Post info, this is important to many here

Amazing how those stories always involve another person.

Wot you mean?

some check if its domainsbyproxy, like thehun does.

tell us more.....

once a hosting company (LayeredTech) wanted to bill me for 1200$ for their 'administrators work' while they couldn't install one Cisco PIX (hardware firewall) for me for 8 DAYS and couldn't make my servers working behind firewall.. so I told them to fuck off with their 'services' and firewall and they created 1200$ invoice for their undone work.............


anyway I paid them NOTHING, it's even better, they paid me 5k bucks for my damages costs (4 days of unexpected downtime bcoz of their fault) but this happened after many months of investigating... :321GFY hate fuckin companies like this.....


your situation is weird as well :upsidedow

My friend is a hard working honest webmaster, since his english is not good, he asked me to translate the mail he got, and I couldn't fuckin believe it. I don't really want to give out the name of the tgp, cos I don't know if this is common practice... it is not a US tgp and it went paid last month though

i have checked their domains and they are all registered with their real info

ya that is fucked up. the site should have mentioned they wouldn't take submits from certain registrar or hosts.

interesting

seems like the tgp is just trying to fuck your friends out of some money

We have two sites like that. They will not list anyone from a certain registrars, unfortunatly the only way to know is to submit. For this reason we have always refunded our clients. If your "friend" bought from us we will refund him. Email me at rayATnichespots.com

thx,
Ray

Ray, I think he bought it from you, actually I think he bought two. I will tell him to contact you. Maybe it would be nice if you put something about it on these 2 sites. Also, I don't quite get the reasons for this
nik

Normally I would say that this is fucking ridiculous but after seeing how people actually buy submit passes just to turn around and redirect the galleries, I can understand...

People go through all kinds of bullshit just to cheat.

My mistake, he bought it directly from them.

I guess I am too naive then, but anybody could do it with their domains and with any registar, why are certain registars blocked? Also shouldn't they at least put it in their terms? drop the guys some email?

Ah cool. If you need help contacting them, let me know.

Ray

I'm betting it's Richards' Realm ... :eek2

This sounds all just a little too familiar :(

Submit passes (generally speaking, and not neccesarily the company by the same name...), are highly over-rated IMHO :Oh crap

Its getting out of hand. That is the biggest reason why we offer 3m packages and we are even concidering killing MVC monthly recurring. Yes, cheaters will think twice before buying 3 months. So far 100% of our cheaters have bougth 1 month passes.

Ray

Yes, thats the way to do it.
However sad, that they screw up for others. First free open submissions, then free partner accounts, and now paid accounts.

the only person that benefits from a paid submit pass is the person who sold it lol

It's strange but it doesn't surprise me.. I've heard some fucked up excuses plenty of times.

Paying for partner accounts is retarded.

Those who say the model is shifting, think again, it will correct itself. Pay partner accounts are the worst thing to happen to this industry since the introduction of the FHG.

I approve a lot of good reviews from people that make money.

Ray I just wanted to say I am very happy with my passes. ElephantList and PinkWorld are both submitting me a lot. And you guys have been great to work with.

Registration Service Provided By: ESTHOST

i'm guessing, am i close?

bump5978

actually i benefit from them and im the one buying.

sir, his doamins are highwaytgp.com , galleriestriplex.com I don't know, but the registrars look ... normal to me :P
nik

ya, i didnt notice anything unusual...

Well, these people have always been very pro an nice, I remember when I started submitting galleries, and for some reason I had some kind of error on my gallys, they would even told me wot was wrong, and then they would list them, I think that if you are going to charge for listing galleries, you have to give some kind of service to your submitters and take care of them - basic crm. My friend had to chase them til they finally said this, which doesn't make sense to me. I guess it is not just about the money reimbursement, but about being treated as a scammer when you are not. Hopefully they will explain further wot is going on. I will post updates here, the tgp name has been mentioned in the thread.
nik

what registrar ?

When you do, let me know, and I have to cancel all my accounts. I'm not gonna pay 3 months in advance for some passes that do not work(they do work, but I mean money wise) The 1 month gives me the possibility to check some new accounts, change old passes etc.

Of course you can kill the 1 months recurring to detect some cheaters, but also keep in mind, the majority doesn't like that. Maybe keep offering 1 month passes for webmasters you KNOW?

Hi there:

I am the mysterious nikad's friend. I had not written before, basically because I was busy trying to solve and to "understand" all this thing. In addition my English is not very good, and it's much hard to me to express everything what I mean.

...and yes all of this is about RR...

Never before there was I heard nothing like this.
I'm not a cheater, I don't change my galleries ever, all of them are permanent and hosted in a paid server, don´t use pop ups, consoles, java or some shit like that, all my domains are on my own, registered with my real info, name, address, etc...

Really... I cannot understand, in what way can affect to RR, or to any other, what registrar I did used to register my domains. And in any case this does not have solution by now, my domains expire in 2006.
Now I am waiting for an answer from RR, for that reason I am not going to say nothing else, by now.

Just one more thing, so that you they can see if, in your opinion, there is something wrong with my galleries, domains, host, etc.

My domains:

galleriestriplex.com
onewaytgp.com
nubiles4all.com

My partner's domains:

highwaytgp.com
tgpmundial.com

All of them was registered under the same registrar.

Galleries samples (submited to RR, and waiting...):

TGP http://www.galleriestriplex.com/ftvg.../richards.html
TGP http://www.galleriestriplex.com/feli.../richards.html
TGP http://www.galleriestriplex.com/ftvg.../richards.html
TGP http://www.galleriestriplex.com/tawn.../richards.html
TGP http://www.galleriestriplex.com/kirs.../richards.html
MGP http://www.nubiles4all.com/movies/ma.../richards.html
MGP http://www.nubiles4all.com/movies/sh.../richards.html

I would like too much to know the opinion of all of you guys. Cya.

I don't see anything wrong with the galleries, the registry info or anything.

Shemp, if you're still reading along, what's the deal with the "Registration Service Provided By: ESTHOST" ? Just curious as to what the problem is with them.

its called a refund or a chargeback anyone selling submit passes that has a problem with where a domain is registered needes to provide a refund or just chargeback on thier asses.

One month to test? One month is not nearly enough time to test anything. Lets say you buy a pass for September 1st, you submit your first gallery and it takes 3-4 days to be reviewd and another 1-2 to be listed. That leaves you with 3 weeks to "test"..not enough time.

As we stand right now, we are 3 owners making the decision. I for one am all for 3 month min....oh and only about 30% of sales are monthly. Im willing to bet my left nut that when we do this switch we will only lose about 5% of sales, for a month or 2 and then they will come to their senses abd sign up again.

Ray

Oh and another thing. We are thinking about adding a new rule to all MVC sales. If the Card Holder name does not match the whoIS info, the sale will not be allowed.

thx,
Ray

Shemp, its a Directi registrar who Est are also a reseller for I believe. Nikad, they are riddled with cheats and unfortunately your friend got caught up in the mire.

Do you think a cheater will contact RR becausae he is not getting listed? Also who is this Directi? Please explain what is the deal with the registrars, I guess if you wanna cheat you can do it with any...