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fuzzylogic 08-01-2005 03:57 PM

Hey, ClickCash Affiliates.. question
 
***does anyone make money promoting the two new frontend sites (totallyfreecams.com and sizzlingcams.com)???

if so, how does it compair to ifriends?

does the same traffic work.. same marketing style work?

fuzzylogic 08-01-2005 05:32 PM

*bump*

i guess i have to learn myself, huh?

After Shock Media 08-01-2005 05:34 PM

soon someone will come in here and tell you to join their team.

chadglni 08-01-2005 05:50 PM

Yes but I link to join pages only, no clue on the main urls.

will76 08-01-2005 08:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by After Shock Media
soon someone will come in here and tell you to join their team.


Damn your good ;) any predictions for the superbowl this year :winkwink:

I've never used the other sites.

There is also incrediblecams.com in addition to the 3 you mentioned. I know some people were linking to those join pages and were doing good, but not sending to the main sites.

synapse 08-01-2005 08:50 PM

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Originally Posted by will76
There is also incrediblecams.com in addition to the 3 you mentioned. I know some people were linking to those join pages and were doing good, but not sending to the main sites.

Will is definetly u'r man re everything clickcash, but we've tried the three or four alternative landing pages and found totallyfreecams.com to be the best converting.

fuzzylogic 08-01-2005 08:52 PM

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Originally Posted by synapse
Will is definetly u'r man re everything clickcash, but we've tried the three or four alternative landing pages and found totallyfreecams.com to be the best converting.

excellent. may be that is because of the url.

to me the home pages look to heavy. i would think that something simpler would do better.

chadglni 08-01-2005 08:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by synapse
Will is definetly u'r man re everything clickcash, but we've tried the three or four alternative landing pages and found totallyfreecams.com to be the best converting.

I do the best on the old school white page on ifriends. I've tried them all (less the ugly ass new ones).

krazyone 08-01-2005 09:01 PM

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Originally Posted by chadglni
I do the best on the old school white page on ifriends. I've tried them all (less the ugly ass new ones).

Same here. I have had good luck on the join pages compared to the main pages. :2 cents:

chadglni 08-01-2005 09:02 PM

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Originally Posted by krazyone
Same here. I have had good luck on the join pages compared to the main pages. :2 cents:

When the hell did you wake up?

fuzzylogic 08-01-2005 09:17 PM

it seems most convert best having surfers land on join pages. thats not what i would expect.

in support of that idea, having surfers see how much it costs per minute to cam might detour them from joining.

now, when u guys send surfers to the join pages, where do they come from? pre-join pages that u made? does it work as well with just text links?

chadglni 08-01-2005 09:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fuzzylogic
it seems most convert best having surfers land on join pages. thats not what i would expect.

in support of that idea, having surfers see how much it costs per minute to cam might detour them from joining.

now, when u guys send surfers to the join pages, where do they come from? pre-join pages that u made? does it work as well with just text links?

This is a bare template but sell them before you send em.

http://demo.ninjascripts.com/webcams...ls/Emmanuel_18

fuzzylogic 08-01-2005 09:32 PM

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Originally Posted by chadglni
This is a bare template but sell them before you send em.

http://demo.ninjascripts.com/webcams...ls/Emmanuel_18

alright, a pre-join page. makes sense.

now thats is a cool cms u got there... meta tags can be added to each page? each page is static? or is a mod rewrite used?

chadglni 08-01-2005 09:36 PM

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Originally Posted by fuzzylogic
alright, a pre-join page. makes sense.

now thats is a cool cms u got there... meta tags can be added to each page? each page is static? or is a mod rewrite used?

It's dynamic pages with data pulled from includes on the template. You can do metas, alt, etc. like this and pull any combination of category name, profile name, a text field entered for that model, and hard text.

will76 08-01-2005 09:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fuzzylogic
it seems most convert best having surfers land on join pages. thats not what i would expect.

in support of that idea, having surfers see how much it costs per minute to cam might detour them from joining.

now, when u guys send surfers to the join pages, where do they come from? pre-join pages that u made? does it work as well with just text links?


Yeah, but there is a lot more to ifriends then just the ppm. You can market the site several ways. Did you know that someone can make a free screen name and then join Fan Clubs of different chathost, for free for 1 month, and then cancel and never be charged. While they are members of the fan clubs they get to see free live nude shows. Ifriends does good because we get them in "for free" and the content is so good, the site sells them and keeps them on as paying customers. You can also have access to millions of nude pictures and thousands of hours of videos, all for just creating a free screen name (w/credit card). Kinda blows away AVS and TGP sites combinded.

Picking the right signup page does help, and I am sure some will do better then others, but how you market the site (what you say before you get them to the signup page) makes all the diffence in the world in regards to how well you will convert that person.

Is use this one btw: http://orders.webpower.com/iFriends/vpNAmain.htm sometimes it loads slow and the cams never work, lol but i swear by this page.

will76 08-01-2005 09:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by chadglni
It's dynamic pages with data pulled from includes on the template. You can do metas, alt, etc. like this and pull any combination of category name, profile name, a text field entered for that model, and hard text.


Hey, Take a look at this and tell me what you think. http://www.teamclickcash.com/promo/l.../coedkitty.htm

I just finished that site and will be providing it as a co-branded site, The top banner can be changed to fit the design and logo of someone's site.

Take a look at the "live cams" section. I have programming setup to pull the live chathost down from ifriends and link directly to their chatroom. If you if you want to use something like that let me know.

chadglni 08-01-2005 09:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by will76
Hey, Take a look at this and tell me what you think. http://www.teamclickcash.com/promo/l.../coedkitty.htm

I just finished that site and will be providing it as a co-branded site, The top banner can be changed to fit the design and logo of someone's site.

Take a look at the "live cams" section. I have programming setup to pull the live chathost down from ifriends and link directly to their chatroom. If you if you want to use something like that let me know.

Looks good man. Quick and easy to the join is what I love.

poisson 08-01-2005 09:50 PM

Tried it, made me put ClickCash in the shitlist! sorry for hurted souls. I'm doing much much better elsewhere.

poisson 08-01-2005 09:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by After Shock Media
soon someone will come in here and tell you to join their team.


That was obvious!

fuzzylogic 08-01-2005 10:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by will76
Hey, Take a look at this and tell me what you think. http://www.teamclickcash.com/promo/l.../coedkitty.htm

I just finished that site and will be providing it as a co-branded site, The top banner can be changed to fit the design and logo of someone's site.

Take a look at the "live cams" section. I have programming setup to pull the live chathost down from ifriends and link directly to their chatroom. If you if you want to use something like that let me know.

that is a pretty front end!

which part of that site converts better for you? the static girls or the live browse thumbnail frame?

i would think that frame would.

will76 08-01-2005 10:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by poisson
Tried it, made me put ClickCash in the shitlist! sorry for hurted souls. I'm doing much much better elsewhere.


just curious how did you tried it ?

I bet I could help you make money with it. How you advertise something makes a world of difference. From the promos you use to the text on the page, the different features you point out on the site. I have no idea what your pages looked like, but if you still have any I would love to do a free review for you and give you my suggestions on how to make it convert better :2 cents:

You have nothing to lose....

ClickCash is good and bad in the sense that they offer very little promos and advertising tools to use. This is good because it forces us to learn on our own and create something unique ourselves. Not just use the same stuff that millions of other affiliates use, that gets old quick. This is also bad because if you really don't know what you are doing then you are going to have a tough time with trial and error trying to figure out what works the best, and some people will quit, and just go to another company that pays less. However they might actually make more because the new site has better promos then that individual is able to make.

poisson 08-01-2005 10:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by will76
just curious how did you tried it ?

I bet I could help you make money with it. How you advertise something makes a world of difference. From the promos you use to the text on the page, the different features you point out on the site. I have no idea what your pages looked like, but if you still have any I would love to do a free review for you and give you my suggestions on how to make it convert better :2 cents:

You have nothing to lose....

ClickCash is good and bad in the sense that they offer very little promos and advertising tools to use. This is good because it forces us to learn on our own and create something unique ourselves. Not just use the same stuff that millions of other affiliates use, that gets old quick. This is also bad because if you really don't know what you are doing then you are going to have a tough time with trial and error trying to figure out what works the best, and some people will quit, and just go to another company that pays less. However they might actually make more because the new site has better promos then that individual is able to make.


I must say that i wished to had that idea years ago! but i also have to tell you that you would do much better with mi sig.

Cheers

will76 08-01-2005 10:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by poisson
I must say that i wished to had that idea years ago! but i also have to tell you that you would do much better with mi sig.

Cheers

Hey its never too late for me to review it for you :)

Sorry I am not interested in PPS. I can convert a LOT better with free signups with credit cards and i am averaging $60+ a free signup. Not sure how you think I would do better. How much would my customer have to spend on your site for me to get paid ?

EDIT: i see you pay UP TO $40 a free signup.. now how would i make more if i took a $25+ per free signup pay cut ?

chadglni 08-01-2005 10:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by will76
Hey its never too late for me to review it for you :)

Sorry I am not interested in PPS. I can convert a LOT better with free signups with credit cards and i am averaging $60+ a free signup. Not sure how you think I would do better. How much would my customer have to spend on your site for me to get paid ?

G3X is free, and it converts great. Just takes forever to get your first check. ;)

poisson 08-01-2005 10:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by chadglni
G3X is free, and it converts great. Just takes forever to get your first check. ;)

Epassporte rocks dont you thing! it is on my epassporte every weeks, supposed to be wednesday but it come in thusday! that is a program in front of their shits.

poisson 08-01-2005 10:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by will76
Hey its never too late for me to review it for you :)

Sorry I am not interested in PPS. I can convert a LOT better with free signups with credit cards and i am averaging $60+ a free signup. Not sure how you think I would do better. How much would my customer have to spend on your site for me to get paid ?

EDIT: i see you pay UP TO $40 a free signup.. now how would i make more if i took a $25+ per free signup pay cut ?


Yo PPS means PAY PER SIGN UP! How are you paid with CC?

will76 08-01-2005 10:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by chadglni
G3X is free, and it converts great. Just takes forever to get your first check. ;)

Yeah i noticed they have a free signup, his sig through me off because it says "PPS".

But it says they pay UP TO $40 a free signup. So i assume they start you off at what $20 a free signup.

The thing about convertising is that it is as good as the advertisments you use (assuming traffic is the same). Not to sound egotistical but I think I know how to convert cam traffic as good if not better then the "tools" provided by any program out there. Therefore I will convert as good or better then I would if i just used G3X's promos. With that being said, why would i take a $25+ pay cut to make the same amount of signups.

chadglni 08-01-2005 10:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by will76
Yeah i noticed they have a free signup, his sig through me off because it says "PPS".

But it says they pay UP TO $40 a free signup. So i assume they start you off at what $20 a free signup.

The thing about convertising is that it is as good as the advertisments you use (assuming traffic is the same). Not to sound egotistical but I think I know how to convert cam traffic as good if not better then the "tools" provided by any program out there. Therefore I will convert as good or better then I would if i just used G3X's promos. With that being said, why would i take a $25+ pay cut to make the same amount of signups.

A friend of mine converts a little better with them than clickcash I'm assuming due to saturation. With your volume the payscale of theirs probably wouldn't equal what you make even with better conversions. They don't start at $20 I do believe it's $30 or $35.

georgeyw 08-01-2005 10:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by will76
Hey, Take a look at this and tell me what you think. http://www.teamclickcash.com/promo/l.../coedkitty.htm

I just finished that site and will be providing it as a co-branded site, The top banner can be changed to fit the design and logo of someone's site.

Take a look at the "live cams" section. I have programming setup to pull the live chathost down from ifriends and link directly to their chatroom. If you if you want to use something like that let me know.


Will76
how do we link to a page like that?? Or the previous url you mentioned? Click Cash is a nightmare to find linking codes if you ask me, but i like the program.

poisson 08-01-2005 10:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by will76
Yeah i noticed they have a free signup, his sig through me off because it says "PPS".

But it says they pay UP TO $40 a free signup. So i assume they start you off at what $20 a free signup.

The thing about convertising is that it is as good as the advertisments you use (assuming traffic is the same). Not to sound egotistical but I think I know how to convert cam traffic as good if not better then the "tools" provided by any program out there. Therefore I will convert as good or better then I would if i just used G3X's promos. With that being said, why would i take a $25+ pay cut to make the same amount of signups.


Yo, stop assuming and read the information your are granted to view,, G3X pay $35 for the first sign up and for the 50and th 100 sign up! you can get $40 if you design the page you are promoting and 3$ for each sell from your created page. Stop bumping your sig,, and let my do the work! I AM ABSOLUTELY POSITIVE that NO ONE CONVERT BETTER! now shut it up and let the readers read the important.



No hard feelings.

will76 08-01-2005 10:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by poisson
Yo PPS means PAY PER SIGN UP! How are you paid with CC?


Maybe it's just me but I have always associated PPS as when you get paid for a paid signup.

I get paid from ifriends when someone *joins* for free ;)

Guess it's just a difference of terminology.

will76 08-01-2005 10:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by poisson
Yo, stop assuming and read the information your are granted to view,, G3X pay $35 for the first sign up and for the 50and th 100 sign up! you can get $40 if you design the page you are promoting and 3$ for each sell from your created page. Stop bumping your sig,, and let my do the work! I AM ABSOLUTELY POSITIVE that NO ONE CONVERT BETTER! now shut it up and let the readers read the important.



No hard feelings.


How about i just turn my sig off, that is not the reason why I am replying to your post. So I would make $40 with G3X, the question still stands why would I want to take a $25+ per signup cut ?

will76 08-01-2005 10:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by georgeyw
Will76
how do we link to a page like that?? Or the previous url you mentioned? Click Cash is a nightmare to find linking codes if you ask me, but i like the program.

Thats is my first co-branded site, I will be adding more in the future.


I also have a link generator on my site that will help you use the correct affiliate urls... take a look at the site. IF you are already a CLickCash member I will still help you, just icq or email me. 86364801

georgeyw 08-01-2005 10:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by will76
Thats is my first co-branded site, I will be adding more in the future.


I also have a link generator on my site that will help you use the correct affiliate urls... take a look at the site. IF you are already a CLickCash member I will still help you, just icq or email me. 86364801

Hi Will,

Added you on icq 364599070

will76 08-01-2005 10:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by chadglni
A friend of mine converts a little better with them than clickcash I'm assuming due to saturation. With your volume the payscale of theirs probably wouldn't equal what you make even with better conversions. They don't start at $20 I do believe it's $30 or $35.

I believe i you, what you said makes sense.... not to keep repeating myself but I bet I could help your friend with his site so it would convert better and he would make more with clickcash. It all comes down to the promos he is using. If it is something new, unique, and top notch then he will do much better.


With clickcash you make:
1- 10 $40
11- 50 $45
51- 100 $50
101 - 250: $55

I know you know this, just posting for the other viewers...

poisson 08-01-2005 10:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by will76
How about i just turn my sig off, that is not the reason why I am replying to your post. So I would make $40 with G3X, the question still stands why would I want to take a $25+ per signup cut ?


It is all about convertion, if you convert 1/300 out of CC i will convert 1/150with g3x, if you convert 1/120, i will convert 1/60 with g3x.

No more explaination is needed, do the calculation yourself!

CC rock for me ages ago! They are on a drop since 2001! That is why they feel the need to create new sites. Again and again, G3X is the best converting webcam sponsor on the market right now.

And i'm not putting them in my sig for nothing! they only give $100 when the reffered reach 5 sales. They are there simply because they deserve the attention of healty webmasters like you.

synapse 08-01-2005 10:58 PM

Poisson u do u and u'r fav program a disservice by thread hijacking, spamming and abuse :2 cents:

will76 08-01-2005 11:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by poisson
It is all about convertion, if you convert 1/300 out of CC i will convert 1/150with g3x, if you convert 1/120, i will convert 1/60 with g3x.

No more explaination is needed, do the calculation yourself!

It is all about convertion, if you convert 1/300 out of CC i will convert 1/150with g3x, if you convert 1/120, i will convert 1/60 with g3x.

No more explaination is needed, do the calculation yourself!

What are you talking about. How can you be so sure that you will convert 2x better then me??? how can you even pretend to know this as fact ?

but you are right here when you say it is all about conversion. Like i said earlier i feel my advertisements are just as good if not better then anything that G3x is giving you to use. So why would you still convert 2x better then me? the only thing I link to is ifriends join page and I do it in an iframe at that. Show me how someone would think that: http://www.teamclickcash.com/promo/livecam/ is an typical ifriends site. They wouldn't. So saturation does not apply here.



Quote:

CC rock for me ages ago! They are on a drop since 2001! That is why they feel the need to create new sites.
maybe it was time for you to make new promos :2 cents: :2 cents: :thumbsup I didn't take a dive in 2001. I have made more and more each year so is it possible that I was doing something right and maybe you doing something wrong... instead of you just blamming clickcash ?


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And i'm not putting them in my sig for nothing! they only give $100 when the reffered reach 5 sales.
Don't know what your talking about putting them in your sig, because of the signup bonus ? no clue where you are going there. BUt they do pay 10% and as Chad will tell you, since they pay the affiliates so much the 10% adds up quick.

Quote:

They are there simply because they deserve the attention of healty webmasters like you.
and now i am here to make sure everyone who works with clickcash through me will get everything they need to be success and convert much better.

poisson 08-01-2005 11:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by synapse
Poisson u do u and u'r fav program a disservice by thread hijacking, spamming and abuse :2 cents:

Yes, you are right, i'm hijaking this nonsense thread to help you getting more for your investment!.

Now that i replied, would you please gently Go Fuck Yourself and read morning newspapers.



Or sign up to this great program!

will76 08-01-2005 11:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by synapse
Poisson u do u and u'r fav program a disservice by thread hijacking, spamming and abuse :2 cents:

:winkwink:
Ah it's all good. let em try. I am comfident in the product i advertise so I encourage the debating of programs... always like when somenone points out their program pays out a lot less then the one i am advertising. :thumbsup thanks

Although I do hate that i get accused of threading jacking when i don't do 1/10 what these guys do..... :Oh crap


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