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xxxjay 05-25-2005 09:18 PM

Meet the Opposition: www.obscenitycrimes.org
 
I?m not sure what the deal with this site is. It is #1 for ?obscenity? when you search on Google:

http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&l...ty&btnG=Search

It claims to be run by:

Morality in Media, Inc. (MIM) is a national non-profit [501(c)(3)] organization that works through constitutional means to curb illegal traffic in obscenity and uphold standards of decency in media. MIM's offices are located in New York City at 475 Riverside Drive, New York, NY 10115.

However, I find it very strange that in the DOJ Obscenity Prosecution News that there is a very prominent link to this site at in the bottom left hand side of the PDF:

http://www.adultinternetlaw.com/docs....obs032604.pdf

Everyone really needs to be supporting the FSC because it appears to me that the DOJ is also ready to put up a good fight and is raising money.

Anybody else know anything about this site? I think it is government propaganda.

AdPatron 05-25-2005 09:22 PM

They want to piss on your free speech.

KMR Stitch 05-25-2005 09:26 PM

I say fuck em (redneck accent)

xxxjay 05-25-2005 09:26 PM

I forgot to include the url in the body of the 1st post, it is:
http://www.obscenitycrimes.org/

You will also notice it in the DOJ PDF.

The Sultan Of Smut 05-25-2005 09:40 PM

These nuts will always be around. There are countless forms of violence commited everyday but the quacks can only see evil in some lonely guy tossing off to some free smut online. Unfortanately the nuts are in power now...

Funky Bastard 05-25-2005 09:51 PM

I think everybody's going to have to get out of the US

xxxjay 05-25-2005 10:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Funky Bastard
I think everybody's going to have to get out of the US

If your site is visible in the US - it makes no difference! Sorry, can't get out that way!

warlock5 05-25-2005 10:36 PM

damn, they were smart enough to register the .com

xxxjay 05-25-2005 10:39 PM

I went over this website with a fine-tooth comb...They seemed to have a million ideas about how to stop porn or bad TV, but never once did they mention WHAT YOU CAN DO AS A PARENT to keep you kids from these kinds of materials.

Doctor Dre 05-25-2005 10:40 PM

Gotta love the gayish colors of the webhsite

warlock5 05-25-2005 10:43 PM

How about keep your kids the fuck away from the Catholic Church.

GatorB 05-25-2005 10:45 PM

It's ironic that Christian right wing anti-abortion people can find people in their groups with the balls to bombs clinics and shoot abortion doctors yet us evil porn guys can't find even ONE nutjob willing to take these fuckers out

w0rstluk 05-25-2005 10:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by xxxjay
If your site is visible in the US - it makes no difference! Sorry, can't get out that way!

united states laws do not apply to non U.S citzens. got it?

GatorB 05-25-2005 10:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by w0rstluk
united states laws do not apply to non U.S citzens. got it?

Ok please explain this to the religious right and republicans. When you get it thru their thick skulls let me know.

w0rstluk 05-25-2005 11:04 PM

i dont give a shit about them. i didnt vote for that fuckin idiot. its amazing how many idiots are on this board telling other people outside the U.S. to comply. the united states does not run the fuckin internet. And im not breaking my own countries law to adhere to theirs. "yeah you should comply, don't be shady, you are only risking going to jail". idiots

smack 05-25-2005 11:05 PM

they claim to be doing this constitutionally. what constitution are they fucking reading?

eroswebmaster 05-25-2005 11:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by w0rstluk
i dont give a shit about them. i didnt vote for that fuckin idiot. its amazing how many idiots are on this board telling other people outside the U.S. to comply. the united states does not run the fuckin internet. And im not breaking my own countries law to adhere to theirs. "yeah you should comply, don't be shady, you are only risking going to jail". idiots

Okay, so when you get your non-american processor, non-american sponsors, non-american hosting, non-american *fill in the blank* lined up...let us know. :thumbsup

w0rstluk 05-25-2005 11:09 PM

you are stupid

eroswebmaster 05-25-2005 11:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by w0rstluk
you are stupid

do you deal with any american sponsors?

w0rstluk 05-25-2005 11:14 PM

yes my 2257 info is located at 1235 dipshit drive in panama
is the united states going to fly someone over and check?

exportyourbiz-com 05-25-2005 11:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by eroswebmaster
do you deal with any american sponsors?

Sponsors can't check for compliance.

eroswebmaster 05-25-2005 11:16 PM

Good luck with that.

w0rstluk 05-25-2005 11:17 PM

lol even when you are wrong you can't admit it
explain to me the part where I need good luck?

eroswebmaster 05-25-2005 11:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by w0rstluk
lol even when you are wrong you can't admit it
explain to me the part where I need good luck?

When you get termed by a sponsor or a processor because they can't check for compliance..don't come running back here.
:thumbsup

thonglife 05-25-2005 11:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by w0rstluk
lol even when you are wrong you can't admit it
explain to me the part where I need good luck?

Who's sending you your checks/transfers?

exportyourbiz-com 05-25-2005 11:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by eroswebmaster
When you get termed by a sponsor or a processor because they can't check for compliance..don't come running back here.
:thumbsup

Sponsors can't even afford to check compliance of their own US webmasters, let alone foreign affiliates.

eroswebmaster 05-25-2005 11:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by exportyourbiz-com
Sponsors can't even afford to check compliance of their own US webmasters, let alone foreign affiliates.

Like I said, good luck with that.
:thumbsup
If things continue to go this way and it's too much of a hassle, I can see some sponsors cranking down on who they will allow as affiliates so they don't have to worry about rogue webmasters. You'll have to apply and there be a real thorough examination of who you are possibly even requesting references.


I know of major sponsors right now who are pushing away from the affiliate model as much as they can, especially when they can generate their own inhouse traffic and not worry about the cheaters or where the traffic is coming from and how.

w0rstluk 05-25-2005 11:25 PM

forget it this guy is dumb
he wont admit it. good luck with your paperwork douche bag :thumbsup

DateDoc 05-25-2005 11:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by exportyourbiz-com
Sponsors can't check for compliance.

Hmmm, lets say I am a sponsor and you are the affiliate. You are using my materials to promote my website. If you host any of my images I'd make sure you had all the proper documentation. Why? Because if you don't have it I am sure that DOJ is probably going to come check and make sure I have it. Will I have it? Yes. Will I be thrilled that because of you I have to deal with the DOJ? No. Please just consider your account closed and all monies earned forfeited.

exportyourbiz-com 05-25-2005 11:26 PM

You can even pretend you don't use explicit photo content by stripping refferrer's from your sponsor codes or traffic going to your processor.

eroswebmaster 05-25-2005 11:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by w0rstluk
forget it this guy is dumb
he wont admit it. good luck with your paperwork douche bag :thumbsup

LOL even when you're wrong you won't admit it. You just lash out with name calling.
Good luck with that.
:thumbsup

exportyourbiz-com 05-25-2005 11:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BusterPorn
Hmmm, lets say I am a sponsor and you are the affiliate. You are using my materials to promote my website. If you host any of my images I'd make sure you had all the proper documentation. Why? Because if you don't have it I am sure that DOJ is probably going to come check and make sure I have it. Will I have it? Yes. Will I be thrilled that because of you I have to deal with the DOJ? No. Please just consider your account closed and all monies earned forfeited.

You are talking about sponsors flying all over the world to inspect documents without any justification... you can't possibly be serious in thinking this is a feasible scenario...

exportyourbiz-com 05-25-2005 11:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by eroswebmaster
LOL even when you're wrong you won't admit it. You just lash out with name calling.
Good luck with that.
:thumbsup

Please give me the name of one sponsor with the bank account capable of inspecting documentation for all of their affiliates.

eroswebmaster 05-25-2005 11:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by exportyourbiz-com
You are talking about sponsors flying all over the world to inspect documents without any justification... you can't possibly be serious in thinking this is a feasible scenario...

Nope that is not what he said at all.
He just made up a scenario where he has to deal with extra paperwork because a webmaster promoting his program caused him hassle with the law...so once he gets it corrected he terminates your account and all monies you have earned are forfieted and now he doesn't have to worry about you anymore.
:pimp

DWB 05-25-2005 11:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KMR Stitch
I say fuck em (redneck accent)

I speak fluent red neck... Your accent was good. :pimp

exportyourbiz-com 05-25-2005 11:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by eroswebmaster
Nope that is not what he said at all.
He just made up a scenario where he has to deal with extra paperwork because a webmaster promoting his program caused him hassle with the law...so once he gets it corrected he terminates your account and all monies you have earned are forfieted and now he doesn't have to worry about you anymore.
:pimp

:disgust

I can't believe how difficult this is to get through to you.

The US government cannot inspect records of foreign affiliates. You are making up some hypothetical scenario of a sponsor getting in trouble for an affiliate not being in compliance while the US government cannot possibly know whether or not the affiliate is in compliance. How does this 'hassle with the law' come about?

xxxjay 05-25-2005 11:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by w0rstluk
united states laws do not apply to non U.S citzens. got it?

If your site is visible in the US -- then it must comply with US law becasue you are doing business here. End of story.

exportyourbiz-com 05-25-2005 11:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by xxxjay
If your site is visible in the US -- then it must comply with US law becasue you are doing business here. End of story.

With no way of enforcement or punishing businesses not complying it's not much of a law in the practical sense.

xclusive 05-25-2005 11:38 PM

First off that link is very scary and a testament to the lengths that they will go to and i'll have to dig into it some more. The there is this Noob Eroswebmaster talking out his ass.***Major Sarcasm there*** Seriously though if you are going to want to make money you are going to have to comply with the law to the best of your ability. Do you think that an affiliate program is going to risk thier business for you? Get your head out of your ass and learn to respect and learn from the law even if you don't like it. Eros is a smart guy and this isn't the time to be fighting it's a time to work together and make the most of the situation.

xclusive 05-25-2005 11:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by exportyourbiz-com
With no way of enforcement or punishing businesses not complying it's not much of a law in the practical sense.

They could block your sites from us servers no problem. Many countries like china already do this and it will put a serious limitation to your business.


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