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Mojiteaux 03-05-2005 06:43 AM

US Army of Fools
 
Unfortunately the richest army in the world is led by the biggest fools and assholes...

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/4321147.stm
http://abcnews.go.com/International/wireStory?id=553352

wjxxx 03-05-2005 06:52 AM

It`s foolish driving 100 km/h to the airport in Baghdad.

theking 03-05-2005 06:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mojiteaux
Unfortunately the richest army in the world is led by the biggest fools and assholes...

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/4321147.stm
http://abcnews.go.com/International/wireStory?id=553352

It is you that are a fool and asshole. The military personell involved...did their job as in following SOP and Rules of Engagement. The car was speeding and did not slow down even though they were visually warned via hand signals and by flashing lights...and in addition continued coming toward the check point even when warning shots were fired. :thumbsup to the troops involved.

mardigras 03-05-2005 06:55 AM

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Originally Posted by theking
It is you that are a fool and asshole. The military personell involved...did their job as in following SOP and Rules of Engagement. The car was speeding and did not slow down even though they were visually warned via hand signals and by flashing lights...and in addition continued coming toward the check point even when warning shots were fired. :thumbsup to the troops involved.

An unusual checkpoint. Poor bastards probably thought they were about to be taken hostage again.

Adultnet 03-05-2005 06:56 AM

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Originally Posted by theking
they were visually warned via hand signals and by flashing lights...and in addition continued coming toward the check point even when warning shots were fired. :thumbsup to the troops involved.

They had to slow down and stop the car since if there were terrorists in this car it would explode the check point.

CDSmith 03-05-2005 07:06 AM

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Originally Posted by Mojiteaux
Unfortunately the richest army in the world is led by the biggest fools and assholes...

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/4321147.stm
http://abcnews.go.com/International/wireStory?id=553352

Maybe you missed the part of the first article that says:

But Mr Romano insists the "tragic outcome" of her abduction should not be allowed to fuel anti-US sentiment in Italy.

timdogg017 03-05-2005 07:11 AM

The army did the right thing. You got a car speeding toward a check point ignoring signs to stop & warning shots. They've seen this a thousand times. A few seconds later & boom! a car bomb kills & hurts God knows how many people. No way around it, the Army did the right thing. People can bitch & complain but, unless they are there, they have no right to say the actions they(Army)took was wrong!

jimmyf 03-05-2005 08:07 AM

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Originally Posted by timdogg017
The army did the right thing. You got a car speeding toward a check point ignoring signs to stop & warning shots. They've seen this a thousand times. A few seconds later & boom! a car bomb kills & hurts God knows how many people. No way around it, the Army did the right thing. People can bitch & complain but, unless they are there, they have no right to say the actions they(Army)took was wrong!

I'll add my :2 cents: :2 cents: 2 this.

project_naughty 03-05-2005 08:16 AM

The Italian "intelligence" officer gets the Darwin Award for speeding towards an army checkpoint in an area renowned for suicide bombings. How thick can you get?

ezrydn 03-05-2005 08:23 AM

Not to mention the ignorance of the Italian Intel officer for not alerting the controlling forces of their plan and/or route. A little "pre-planning" goes a long way! It's almost like the Italians WANTED it to happen, asked for it. No one in Intel could be that fucking stupid! Or, could they???

Fake Nick 03-05-2005 08:29 AM

euhmm, lots of newsreports are CONTRADICTING each other

of course the us is going to claim they did nothing wrong and it was the car that got the bullets made a mistake by not stopping , what else they going to say ? ?

I just heard now a newsreport on the radio that the husbant of the journalist got word from her in the hospital that the americans wanted to KILL her because she had info on the us army troops in fallujah that the us didn't want to world to know

this story is developing and "the car was speeding and refused to stop" is to stupid of a story for anyone to take serious , the Italians are now saying the us knew very well who was in that car and it was an assasination gone wrong

my bet this is going to cause some SERIOUS DRAMA , when it is confirmed that us wanted that sgrena DEAD ! ....

italianstyle 03-05-2005 08:35 AM

Well....last story seems to be interesting....have u ever think that u never will know the truth???Or better they don't want to tell you the truth :))) Lets what Sgrena will say in the next days it would be interesting...and yes Fake Nick opinion is interesting :)

Mojiteaux 03-05-2005 09:20 AM

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Originally Posted by CDSmith
Maybe you missed the part of the first article that says:

But Mr Romano insists the "tragic outcome" of her abduction should not be allowed to fuel anti-US sentiment in Italy.

As if people care what the corrupt Berlusconi government has to say...

Like the wife of the killed Italian officer said: the soldiers are not to blame but the people in charge are to blame, hence the fools and the assholes that I am referring to...
Blaming individual soldiers for widespread and systematic torture and abuse approved by their superiors in US led prisons has only been a way to safe the highest ranked asses.

This war is a farce. If you still haven't found out about that, please start wiping the shit out of your eyes.

Do you really think the US army didn't know who was in that convoy? Are you that naive?? Her liberation was the main news of the week.

This smells fishy, very fishy...

just a punk 03-05-2005 09:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mojiteaux
Unfortunately the richest army in the world is led by the biggest fools and assholes...

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/4321147.stm
http://abcnews.go.com/International/wireStory?id=553352

What did you expect? Only completed losers and dumbs enrol to the army. That's an axiom.

TheSaint 03-05-2005 09:51 AM

Yeah pretty obvious not to many ex-soldiers on gfy, in all wars friendly fire happens every day. You should hear some of the stories my father tells me from WWII where it was not rare to drop a bomb on or shoot down your buddies due to crap technology, bad weather, and the mass confusion that happens when you are 19 and people are shooting at you.

Only a true idiot could believe this was anything other than what it was, a traggic accident, and only a bigger idiot could think these sorts of incidents will ever decrease in an area where muslims routinely drive towards you so they can blow themselves up.

Greg Jacobson 03-05-2005 09:55 AM

Perhaps next time they should send in negotiators who have the brains to slow down for a checkpoint.

directfiesta 03-05-2005 09:56 AM

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Originally Posted by project_naughty
The Italian "intelligence" officer gets the Darwin Award for speeding towards an army checkpoint in an area renowned for suicide bombings. How thick can you get?

Will never be as thick as you :2 cents:

directfiesta 03-05-2005 10:00 AM

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Originally Posted by wjxxx
It`s foolish driving 100 km/h to the airport in Baghdad.

Been there lately.... HTFDYK??? ( How The Fuck Do You Know ? ) ....

40 km/h would have been better ... on the most dangerous road in the world !!!!

just a punk 03-05-2005 10:01 AM

toooooooo many traggic accidents caused the the US soldiers (Germany, Italy, Iraq). isn't it?

directfiesta 03-05-2005 10:06 AM

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Originally Posted by Fake Nick

I just heard now a newsreport on the radio that the husbant of the journalist got word from her in the hospital that the americans wanted to KILL her because she had info on the us army troops in fallujah that the us didn't want to world to know

She was writing against the war, and as a GFY'er wrote yesterday in another thread , she was a " fucking commie" so she deserves to die ....

Coincidence that this checkpoint was an " unusual one " ...

FunForOne 03-05-2005 10:15 AM

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Originally Posted by Mojiteaux
Unfortunately the richest army in the world is led by the biggest fools and assholes...


how funny is that?

project_naughty 03-05-2005 10:20 AM

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Originally Posted by directfiesta
Will never be as thick as you :2 cents:

Poor, poor you.

Mojiteaux 03-05-2005 10:39 AM

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Originally Posted by TheSaint
Yeah pretty obvious not to many ex-soldiers on gfy, in all wars friendly fire happens every day. You should hear some of the stories my father tells me from WWII where it was not rare to drop a bomb on or shoot down your buddies due to crap technology, bad weather, and the mass confusion that happens when you are 19 and people are shooting at you.

Only a true idiot could believe this was anything other than what it was, a traggic accident, and only a bigger idiot could think these sorts of incidents will ever decrease in an area where muslims routinely drive towards you so they can blow themselves up.

For the silly half of the Americans that are still living in a brainwashed state of denial about all the atrocities comitted in Iraq by their government since 2003...perhaps it is useful to listen to a reliable comment for once.
This is what Guiliana Sgrena has to say:
"I was especially shocked because we thought that by then the danger was past," she told Italy's Rai radio.
Ms Sgrena, who was wounded in the incident, has been sent to a military hospital in Rome for an operation.
She denied US military accounts that the car was speeding past a checkpoint when it was fired upon.


Unfortunately for the US government they didn't manage to kill her...

Rochard 03-05-2005 10:46 AM

The only person to blame here is the idiot who was driving the car.

A similar incident happened a while back where a bunch of innocent people got killed for the same exact reasons. It's common sense. Iraq is being attacted by terrorists who drive cars at high rates of speeds into checkpoints and other areas. It would seem pretty clear to me that when your driving up to a checkpoint WITH ARMED GUARDS that you would SLOW DOWN and PAY FUCKING ATTENTION and DO WHAT YOU ARE TOLD TO DO.

We have a nuclear power plant outside of Phoenix here. I'm pretty God damn fucking sure that I drove up to the gate at 50mph and REFUSED TO STOP AFTER THEY FIRED WARNING SHOTS that I would be shot too.

dirtyone 03-05-2005 10:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Fake Nick
euhmm, lots of newsreports are CONTRADICTING each other

of course the us is going to claim they did nothing wrong and it was the car that got the bullets made a mistake by not stopping , what else they going to say ? ?

I just heard now a newsreport on the radio that the husbant of the journalist got word from her in the hospital that the americans wanted to KILL her because she had info on the us army troops in fallujah that the us didn't want to world to know

this story is developing and "the car was speeding and refused to stop" is to stupid of a story for anyone to take serious , the Italians are now saying the us knew very well who was in that car and it was an assasination gone wrong

my bet this is going to cause some SERIOUS DRAMA , when it is confirmed that us wanted that sgrena DEAD ! ....


If the US wanted her dead and knew it was her in the car, how hard would it have been to walk over to the car after the firing stoppedand, look in and realize she was alive and put a bullet in her head?

If you are going to make shit up at least make it somewhat plausibe.

directfiesta 03-05-2005 11:02 AM

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Originally Posted by dirtyone
If the US wanted her dead and knew it was her in the car, how hard would it have been to walk over to the car after the firing stoppedand, look in and realize she was alive and put a bullet in her head?

If you are going to make shit up at least make it somewhat plausibe.

LOL .....

and they would explain it how then ????

dirtyone 03-05-2005 11:16 AM

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Originally Posted by directfiesta
LOL .....

and they would explain it how then ????


If everyone in the car was dead and the only witnesses were the soldiers....

Do I really need to go on?

If they wanted her dead I am pretty sure she would be.

sickkittens 03-05-2005 11:19 AM

Blah, blah, blah. Here we go again.

Mojiteaux 03-05-2005 11:20 AM

If everyone in the car was dead and the only witnesses were the soldiers....

Do I really need to go on?

If they wanted her dead I am pretty sure she would be.


Kinda tough to explain the killing of an entire convoy..., no? :1orglaugh

12clicks 03-05-2005 11:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fake Nick
euhmm, lots of newsreports are CONTRADICTING each other

of course the us is going to claim they did nothing wrong and it was the car that got the bullets made a mistake by not stopping , what else they going to say ? ?

I just heard now a newsreport on the radio that the husbant of the journalist got word from her in the hospital that the americans wanted to KILL her because she had info on the us army troops in fallujah that the us didn't want to world to know

this story is developing and "the car was speeding and refused to stop" is to stupid of a story for anyone to take serious , the Italians are now saying the us knew very well who was in that car and it was an assasination gone wrong

my bet this is going to cause some SERIOUS DRAMA , when it is confirmed that us wanted that sgrena DEAD ! ....

link?
or is this from tin foil hat radio only? :1orglaugh

fl_prn_str 03-05-2005 11:25 AM

I believe most Iraqis know what the Rules of Engagement and SOP?s are by now. Especially after their TV channels put out these procedures so people wouldn?t be mistakenly killed by US troops.

FunForOne 03-05-2005 11:28 AM

How funny is it that a italian journalists gets kidnapped by terrorists and comes out bashing the united states.

TheSaint 03-05-2005 11:31 AM

Jesus Christ people, try to think a little before you moan on and on like this.

Lets say...

You are given orders to kill an innocent journalist. Never mind that for that to happen, quite a few people would have to know and if caught you would spend possibly life in prison... And its almost impossible to keep a secret in the U.S., so you will be caught...

But you are stupid, so you agree to do it anyway...

Then you do it IN FRONT of witnesses (other soldiers) and leave some alive to tell their side, not say 1 mile before the checkpoint, where you could easily dress in Iraqi clothes and claim its just another terrorist attack?

Oh, ok... and I assume the US is keeping aliens a secret too, always the same folks, and you probbly think we are keeping Elvis alive too.

Mojiteaux 03-05-2005 12:00 PM

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Originally Posted by TheSaint
Jesus Christ people, try to think a little before you moan on and on like this.

Lets say...

You are given orders to kill an innocent journalist. Never mind that for that to happen, quite a few people would have to know and if caught you would spend possibly life in prison... And its almost impossible to keep a secret in the U.S., so you will be caught...

But you are stupid, so you agree to do it anyway...

Then you do it IN FRONT of witnesses (other soldiers) and leave some alive to tell their side, not say 1 mile before the checkpoint, where you could easily dress in Iraqi clothes and claim its just another terrorist attack?

Oh, ok... and I assume the US is keeping aliens a secret too, always the same folks, and you probbly think we are keeping Elvis alive too.

Wearing Iraqi clothes the probability of getting killed yourself would rise 200%

Have you forgotten the "incident" of the Palestine Hotel in Bagdad not even two years ago where the US targetted and killed non-embedded journalists? Yep, the tank firing the grenate got the order directly from his superiors.

The US government doesn't exactly bother keeping secrets, they just lie about everything. Welcome to the matrix :upsidedow

directfiesta 03-05-2005 12:04 PM

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Originally Posted by 12clicks
link?
or is this from tin foil hat radio only? :1orglaugh

YOU ask a link ... YOU, the foul blabbing mouth laughing smiley that NEVERS post a link ...

Read what she wrote about the US troops in Iraq :

http://www.ilmanifesto.it/pag/sgrena...d721e0ff0.html

And tell me that the Hawks liked her ....

Good news is that Saddam h torture rooms, prisons and mass graves are not his anymore to play with. The bad news is that they are now under new administration : the US of A.

FunForOne 03-05-2005 12:05 PM

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Originally Posted by directfiesta

Good news is that Saddam h torture rooms, prisons and mass graves are not his anymore to play with. The bad news is that they are now under new administration : the US of A.



I thought kennedy's quote really helped people decide who to vote for.

directfiesta 03-05-2005 12:05 PM

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Originally Posted by FunForOne
How funny is it that a italian journalists gets kidnapped by terrorists and comes out bashing the united states.

She should blame the " terrorists " for the killings :1orglaugh :1orglaugh

Goes with the 9/11 approach : Saudis fly planes in the WTC, Americans attack Iraq...

Pretty good logic.

directfiesta 03-05-2005 12:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheSaint
Jesus Christ people, try to think a little before you moan on and on like this.


Oh, ok... and I assume the US is keeping aliens a secret too, always the same folks, and you probbly think we are keeping Elvis alive too.

How about those " secrets" ...

Quote:

The Salt Pit was the top-secret name for an abandoned brick factory, a warehouse just north of the Kabul business district that the CIA began using shortly after the United States invaded Afghanistan in October 2001. The 10-acre facility included a three-story building, eventually used by the U.S. military to train the Afghan counterterrorism force, and several smaller buildings, which were off-limits to all but the CIA and a handful of Afghan guards and cooks who ran the prison, said several current and former military and intelligence officers.

The CIA wanted the Salt Pit to be a "host-nation facility," an Afghan prison with Afghan guards. Its designation as an Afghan facility was intended to give U.S. personnel some insulation from actions taken by Afghan guards inside, a tactic used in secret CIA prisons in other countries, former and current CIA officials said.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dy...av=rss_politics
And how about getting documents for the 9/11 commission ... and the National Guard records ...

THE USA keeps way more secrets and thruths from its population than you think.

FunForOne 03-05-2005 12:11 PM

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Originally Posted by directfiesta
She should blame the " terrorists " for the killings :1orglaugh :1orglaugh

Goes with the 9/11 approach : Saudis fly planes in the WTC, Americans attack Iraq...

Pretty good logic.



wow, thats great logic.

I can pretend that I dont understand the war on terrorism, so I have to disagree with you.

FunForOne 03-05-2005 12:12 PM

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Originally Posted by directfiesta
How about those " secrets" ...



And how about getting documents for the 9/11 commission ... and the National Guard records ...

THE USA keeps way more secrets and thruths from its population than you think.


I forgot that you and dan rather were the keeper of the U.S. secrets.

You are getting funier


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