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10-24-2004, 05:57 PM

Who knows more about this X Pays patent? I heard they were going to be the next Acacia. Now, this is what I have heard so I am interested in hearing exactly what their patent is. Are they going to be suing Dollars.com?
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10-25-2004, 07:29 AM

Sorry for making a GOOD post.
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10-25-2004, 07:33 AM

Originally posted by FreeHugeMovies
Sorry for making a GOOD post.

So you should be!

AFAIK many sites existed prior to their filing date, so, if this patent is ever challanged there is a good chance of defeat.

I'm no expect but that is my
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10-25-2004, 07:34 AM

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10-25-2004, 07:37 AM

I would think Rick L would comment on this or maybe he plans on settling.
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10-25-2004, 07:41 AM

Originally posted by FreeHugeMovies
Who knows more about this X Pays patent? I heard they were going to be the next Acacia. Now, this is what I have heard so I am interested in hearing exactly what their patent is. Are they going to be suing Dollars.com?

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10-25-2004, 07:43 AM

bump for you, what's this patent about?

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10-25-2004, 07:44 AM

I hope it is not for the crappy stats they have. They have my vote for worst affiliate stats.
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10-25-2004, 07:45 AM

Originally posted by FreeHugeMovies
I would think Rick L would comment on this or maybe he plans on settling.

I won't be commenting other to say that we are not being sued and we are in communication with them and hope to work out a mutual benificial partnership.

You can ask additional questions if you'd like but it's unlikely you'll get another response.

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10-25-2004, 07:45 AM

Xpays patent will never hold up but they are a good company...

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10-25-2004, 07:46 AM

I think dollars.com is directly targeted by the patend. But the adult commmunity is quite good at regulating themself so and I'm sure that if xpays try to put pressure on others with their patent, they will shot themslef in their foot since people will start to be agains't them and move their traffic elsewhere....
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10-25-2004, 07:49 AM

Here is a link to the patent.

http://appft1.uspto.gov/netacgi/nph-...ate+pooling%22

From what I understand companies like dollars.com and realbigcash.com or in violation of the Xpay patent.

This is why I am posting to try to get a better understanding of this patent.
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10-25-2004, 07:51 AM

Their patent and their intentions are nothing remotely like Acacia's.

The IMPA intends to produce a "white paper" on it that will help explain it and give companies a better idea if they infringe it or not.

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10-25-2004, 07:54 AM

Originally posted by Far-L
Their patent and their intentions are nothing remotely like Acacia's.

If that is the case why are they sending out e mails saying ?lets talk about licensing??
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10-25-2004, 07:57 AM

Originally posted by FreeHugeMovies
If that is the case why are they sending out e mails saying ?lets talk about licensing??

Paste one with headers?
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10-25-2004, 07:58 AM

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10-25-2004, 08:00 AM

Looks like another attempt to make money off the hard work of others. What a crock of shit.

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10-25-2004, 09:38 AM

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Looks like another attempt to make money off the hard work of others. What a crock of shit.

This is what I am trying to find out.
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10-25-2004, 11:55 AM

Originally posted by stocktrader23
Looks like another attempt to make money off the hard work of others. What a crock of shit.

you can flip the script and say "others make money off of XPays hard work". that is how an inventor looks at a situation where their patent is being infringed.

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10-25-2004, 11:57 AM

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So you should be!

AFAIK many sites existed prior to their filing date, so, if this patent is ever challanged there is a good chance of defeat.

I'm no expect but that is my

We have searched extensively for years and years and have not seen any prior art. That includes the lists of companies webmasters suggested in a previous thread that shap started. Either those companies models are/were different or our invention date pre-dates them.

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10-25-2004, 12:08 PM

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10-25-2004, 12:09 PM

I wonder how many ppl are going to pull their links over this. How long ago was Comission Junction established?
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10-25-2004, 12:12 PM

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10-25-2004, 01:53 PM

Originally posted by FreeHugeMovies
I wonder how many ppl are going to pull their links over this. How long ago was Comission Junction established?

They should pull their links to TripleXCash due to the way you are promoting them in this thread.

nonetheless- I have always liked the triplexcash owners and their sites look phat so as you can see I am just devil's advocating here.

If you are asking questions and curious it seems insincere based on your negativity in your posts.

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10-25-2004, 01:54 PM

Originally posted by johnny1
I wouldnt worry to much

Good suggestion for those concerned. Our patent is novel and does not affect more than a handful of companies in adult.

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10-25-2004, 04:11 PM

Originally posted by XPays
They should pull their links to TripleXCash due to the way you are promoting them in this thread.

nonetheless- I have always liked the triplexcash owners and their sites look phat so as you can see I am just devil's advocating here.

If you are asking questions and curious it seems insincere based on your negativity in your posts.

I am asking questions to things I am hearing on ICQ and things I have heard in person. If Acacia had paysites don't you think webmasters would of pulled their links?
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10-25-2004, 04:48 PM

Originally posted by FreeHugeMovies
I am asking questions to things I am hearing on ICQ and things I have heard in person. If Acacia had paysites don't you think webmasters would of pulled their links?

It appears your comments are more reflexive than inquisitive. Comparing our patent to Acacia is insulting, considering we actually invented our technology and use it commercially. Also, we did not sit on the patent and then spring it there (submarine patent style) years later across a whole range of industries. Please email me your icq logs or post them here. So you are saying webmasters should pull their links from any company awarded a legitimate patent?

Again, being reflexive is not imho fair to us but you are entitled to formulate your opinion and change it as you discover the truth.

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10-25-2004, 05:04 PM

XPays, can you with your own words explain what your "invention" is? Since the patent is a bunch of legal jargon shit

To me it just sounds like a standard Commission Junction like thing.

So CJ has licensed your "invention"?

Or are they different?

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10-25-2004, 05:12 PM

Hey Evan,

Wish we could have hooked up at the party!! Missed ya!! Anyways, hope the phone convention went well for you and your clients...

Anyways man! TTYL

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10-25-2004, 05:19 PM

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XPays, can you with your own words explain what your "invention" is? Since the patent is a bunch of legal jargon shit

To me it just sounds like a standard Commission Junction like thing.

So CJ has licensed your "invention"?

Or are they different?

Please do not ask me about particular companies as I will not answer any such questions at this time. You are welcome to call me or email any questions and I will do the best I can to answer them or have our counsel answer them.

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10-25-2004, 05:20 PM

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Hey Evan,

Wish we could have hooked up at the party!! Missed ya!! Anyways, hope the phone convention went well for you and your clients...

Anyways man! TTYL

wireless baby! The convention is still here at the moscone center if anyone is going to be near s.f.. I really wanted to go to the party - hopefully there will be a round 2 soon.

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10-25-2004, 05:24 PM

Originally posted by Nathan
XPays, can you with your own words explain what your "invention" is? Since the patent is a bunch of legal jargon shit

To me it just sounds like a standard Commission Junction like thing.

So CJ has licensed your "invention"?

Or are they different?

And by the way Nathan- our invention does not need your snotty quotes around it. The patent is issued and is a matter of fact.

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10-25-2004, 05:35 PM

Guys and Gals why do you feed the troll? Ah, I mean Evan

He has a history in our industry of sending cease and desist letters to fellow webmasters. This fact he can't deny at all.

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10-25-2004, 05:40 PM

Originally posted by sextoyking
Guys and Gals why do you feed the troll? Ah, I mean Evan

He has a history in our industry of sending cease and desist letters to fellow webmasters. This fact he can't deny at all.

Always watch your back.

trolls are welcome to sign up at XPays and join me in trolling to #1 for hotelheiress.

you are like a broken record todd
same old song.

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10-25-2004, 05:46 PM

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10-25-2004, 05:47 PM

Originally posted by XPays
And by the way Nathan- our invention does not need your snotty quotes around it. The patent is issued and is a matter of fact.

It's well known that the patent office will issue a patent for a ham sandwich with mayo. The question is will it stand up in court upon challenge. I've seen things about this patent off an on for a while now and never bothered to look and see exactly what you're laying claim to.

Care to enlighten us?
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10-25-2004, 05:51 PM

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trolls are welcome to sign up at XPays and join me in trolling to #1 for hotelheiress.

you are like a broken record todd
same old song.

edit- sign up even if just to get on our mail list to find out about a Celebrity Content Surprise we have coming in early december :-)

As I said Evan, no denial from you on your past treatment of certain webmasters

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10-25-2004, 05:57 PM

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It's well known that the patent office will issue a patent for a ham sandwich with mayo. The question is will it stand up in court upon challenge. I've seen things about this patent off an on for a while now and never bothered to look and see exactly what you're laying claim to.

Care to enlighten us?

Hi Bernard,

Long time no speak. Funny sound on your banners here LOL. Anyway, I have to be careful what I say here because I could end up pigeonholed, so the best way to start grasping our patent is to read it:

http://patft.uspto.gov/netacgi/nph-P...number=6804660

http://essociate.com/patents/US6804660.pdf

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10-25-2004, 05:58 PM

Originally posted by sextoyking
As I said Evan, no denial from you on your past treatment of certain webmasters

you need the proverbial straight man to help set you up for the dog pissing on the c&d line you have used in your comedy routine since 1974 LOL

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10-25-2004, 06:02 PM

I need a straight Man Evan?? hmm my loving wife will do..

I never brang up sexual orientation into this thread. I could care less if your gay or not.

My point is, you have fucked with and had your lawyers go after webmasters in the past.

People must know the truth

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10-25-2004, 06:02 PM

Originally posted by XPays
Hi Bernard,

Long time no speak. Funny sound on your banners here LOL. Anyway, I have to be careful what I say here because I could end up pigeonholed, so the best way to start grasping our patent is to read it:

http://patft.uspto.gov/netacgi/nph-P...number=6804660

http://essociate.com/patents/US6804660.pdf

We will discuss more details at an appropriate time and we do look forward that time as well.

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10-25-2004, 06:04 PM

Originally posted by sextoyking
I need a straight Man Evan?? hmm my loving wife will do..

I never brang up sexual orientation into this thread. I could care less if your gay or not.

My point is, you have fucked with and had your lawyers go after webmasters in the past.

People must know the truth

Shalom

you know what i meant and you have a 2 hour notice to cease and desist giving me deja vu in every thread about XPays. We have had this Same conversation several times. Get some new schtick.

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10-25-2004, 06:06 PM

Originally posted by dig420
you can't boil down? Got something to hide?

if you want to dig up the thread shap started about our patent issuance a week ago-ish, FightThisPatent and many others discussed their opinions at length. A prudent strategy calls for letting the patent speak for itself right now. It is published.

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10-25-2004, 06:07 PM

Evan,

this is all about you man. See the newer webmasters might not know about your rep or anything. You might come to gfy and play coolio and all that bull shit, but us old timers know exactly what your all about.

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10-25-2004, 06:10 PM

Originally posted by sextoyking
Evan,

this is all about you man. See the newer webmasters might not know about your rep or anything. You might come to gfy and play coolio and all that bull shit, but us old timers know exactly what your all about.

Cease and desist implying that I have ever done a penny of business with you.

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10-25-2004, 06:12 PM

Originally posted by XPays
if you want to dig up the thread shap started about our patent issuance a week ago-ish, FightThisPatent and many others discussed their opinions at length. A prudent strategy calls for letting the patent speak for itself right now. It is published.

search and newsearch is down.

Anyone got a link, since Evan doesn't want to tell us anything?
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10-25-2004, 06:13 PM

If memory serves me right I don't think we have ever done any business together.

What you did too some webmasters that were hanging out on Oprano was complete bull shit and you know it.

Get picked and pissed on and then go legal on there ass. Whether that is old news or not, I have never seen you come out and say sorry for that BS.

I got pissed on too, you never saw me call counsel...

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10-25-2004, 06:15 PM

Originally posted by sextoyking
If memory serves me right I don't think we have ever done any business together.

What you did too some webmasters that were hanging out on Oprano was complete bull shit and you know it.

Get picked and pissed on and then go legal on there ass. Whether that is old news or not, I have never seen you come out and say sorry for that BS.

I got pissed on too, you never saw me call counsel...

Using attornies is better than breaking laws to get a point across. Sorry you have not gotten over it.

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