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xxxjay 07-23-2004 01:30 PM

Will moving offshore save you from a 2257 ass-reaming?
 
Can anybody say weather moving your servers offshore and setting up a foriegn company being a solution to this problem?

What it would take to comply with this new 2257 is damn near impossible. I think I'd be better offshore.

By having a company set up outside the US with a corp, servers, and bank accounts in aonther country put you outside the Feds jurisdiction?

If nothing else, I think it would make you a less attactive target.

pornstar2pac 07-23-2004 01:33 PM

I would go where the US can't close you down.



try the caribbean, tell'em pornstar2pac sent you:winkwink:

Magg 07-23-2004 01:33 PM

I got a lawyer. You should too

Jace 07-23-2004 01:35 PM

as long as you have some sort of precense in the US, i think they can still get ya

Jace 07-23-2004 01:35 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Magg
I got a lawyer. You should too

Morgan 07-23-2004 01:41 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Magg
I got a lawyer. You should too
http://gofuckyourself.com/showthread...adid=329862&s=

xxxjay 07-23-2004 01:49 PM

What I am saying is for 99% of people there of so many ways this can fuck you.

I really get a laugh from the hoity toity fucks that think they've got it made. Do you have the ID for some chicks banner that you missed when you were assembling this shit? No? Then you weren't compaint.

2-5 years will teach you.

That's why I say moving servers, company, and all that crap offshore would put you way lower of the list.

I have several lawyers and I still get a variety of answers.

pornstar2pac 07-23-2004 01:52 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by xxxjay
What I am saying is for 99% of people there of so many ways this can fuck you.

I really get a laugh from the hoity toity fucks that think they've got it made. Do you have the ID for some chicks banner that you missed when you were assembling this shit? No? Then you weren't compaint.

2-5 years will teach you.

That's why I say moving servers, company, and all that crap offshore would put you way lower of the list.

I have several lawyers and I still get a variety of answers.

I've been offshore since '99. planning to leave the states again for good real soon.

zanycash Pete 07-23-2004 01:56 PM

Better solution, get compliant! the new rules are fucked, but there are ways to be compliant.:thumbsup

pornstar2pac 07-23-2004 01:57 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by zanycash Pete
Better solution, get compliant! the new rules are fucked, but there are ways to be compliant.:thumbsup


caribbean is nice 11 months of out of the year:2 cents:

unconnected 07-23-2004 02:38 PM

How about moving to Canada?
Are there any good Canadian Based adult hosting companies out there?

TheJimmy 07-23-2004 02:43 PM

best way to do it is like pornstar2pac mentioned....setup offshore biz entity and then move there yourself....

fortunatley I don't work with 2257 applicable content...that's been my solution for a few years now

Herb Kornfield 07-23-2004 02:52 PM

<-- is going offshore entirely

biglou 07-23-2004 03:03 PM

I have a double-edged solution... Use out-of-USA addresses so they can't find me, but also be compliant in case they do.

Jurisdiction is irrelevant if they can't find you... I think the next emerging market will be quality offshore hosting, since my host will be the only one with my USA address and I'll be damned if I trust them not to give it to the feds.

pornstar2pac 07-23-2004 03:04 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by biglou
I have a double-edged solution... Use out-of-USA addresses so they can't find me, but also be compliant in case they do.

Jurisdiction is irrelevant if they can't find you... I think the next emerging market will be quality offshore hosting, since my host will be the only one with my USA address and I'll be damned if I trust them not to give it to the feds.



dude, 10 years from now you'll slip and get a newspaper subscription and give your real name and info and then the IRS comes knocking on the door....and the 2257 copola

80smetal 07-23-2004 03:12 PM

non nude for me, thanks. HUGE untapped niche. Tons upon tons of voyeur type surfers.:glugglug

MandyBlake 07-23-2004 03:15 PM

Just got back from seeing my lawyer , unless you planning on moving to that country it doesnt work.

80smetal 07-23-2004 03:17 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by MandyBlake
Just got back from seeing my lawyer , unless you planning on moving to that country it doesnt work.
elaborate on what your lawyer had to say

TheJimmy 07-23-2004 03:22 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Herb Kornfield
<-- is going offshore entirely

for reasons other than 2257 or for any other legal shit...I'll be gone within 3-4 years tops...


this has become a culture of prison and war...I'm opting to raise my family in a culture of beaches, good food and socializing...

the indigo 07-23-2004 03:32 PM

Remember, USA = Freedom. Cry it all over the world with your patriotic flag and be proud :Graucho

angelsofporn 07-23-2004 03:37 PM

The thing about moving offshore if you run paysites is that in order to process visa with epoch, ibill, ccbill etc..you have to have a US presence

sumphatpimp 07-23-2004 04:40 PM

an offshore server means nothing.
you have to move your ASS offshore.
and stay there.

pussyluver 07-23-2004 04:44 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by sumphatpimp
an offshore server means nothing.
you have to move your ASS offshore.
and stay there.

They still will find a way to fuck with ya! Just give big brother a chance, he'll show everyone.

mardigras 07-23-2004 04:54 PM

If you are uploading your site from the US or receiving money in the US (no matter what steps between) you fall under US laws. The only way you can get around this law is to move somewhere where it is not enforcable.

spentrent 07-23-2004 05:01 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by the indigo
Remember, USA = Freedom. Cry it all over the world with your patriotic flag and be proud :Graucho
Heh heh heh.

"USA = Freedom"

Hence all the questions about avoiding USA restrictions...

BRISK 07-23-2004 05:04 PM

:glugglug

pornstar2pac 07-23-2004 05:40 PM

http://premium.uploadit.org/freepic1...1090626352.jpg

biglou 07-23-2004 05:46 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by pornstar2pac
dude, 10 years from now you'll slip and get a newspaper subscription and give your real name and info and then the IRS comes knocking on the door....and the 2257 copola
Well gosh, I ain't no smarty-pants shyster, but I'm pretty sure newspaper subscriptions don't fall under the new 2257s.

pornstar2pac 07-23-2004 05:51 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by biglou
Well gosh, I ain't no smarty-pants shyster, but I'm pretty sure newspaper subscriptions don't fall under the new 2257s.


listen here smarty pants, Bush owns you. like it or not. better be a good bitch to him or azzzhahahahaha is a coming

bdld 07-23-2004 05:52 PM

only sure way is to not be affiliated with the US in any way.

pornstar2pac 07-23-2004 05:53 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by bdld
only sure way is to not be affiliated with the US in any way.



si amigo'!


que pasa?

BRISK 07-23-2004 05:54 PM

If the US is the land of the free, why would you ever need to move your stuff offshore?

emthree 07-23-2004 05:56 PM

I'm moving to iraq, they seem to have less restrictions

Crypt 07-23-2004 05:59 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by TheJimmy
best way to do it is like pornstar2pac mentioned....setup offshore biz entity and then move there yourself....

fortunatley I don't work with 2257 applicable content...that's been my solution for a few years now

So you are using kazaa content? ;)

80smetal 07-23-2004 06:00 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Crypt
So you are using kazaa content? ;)
pre 90' content, retro baby

pornstar2pac 07-23-2004 06:01 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Crypt
So you are using kazaa content? ;)

nope, i have NO content. I'm moving because of gambling related issues. 2257 is just a lotto number to me

xxxjay 07-23-2004 06:30 PM

OK - here's another question. I just talked to a lawyer and he said that the new regs applied only to page published after the 8/24 deadline.

I'm not sure that I believe this 100%. Isn't every time you log onto a webpage isn't it published again? How about modifying it?

80smetal 07-23-2004 06:36 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by xxxjay
OK - here's another question. I just talked to a lawyer and he said that the new regs applied only to page published after the 8/24 deadline.

I'm not sure that I believe this 100%. Isn't every time you log onto a webpage isn't it published again? How about modifying it?

bump

xxxjay 07-23-2004 07:00 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by xxxjay
OK - here's another question. I just talked to a lawyer and he said that the new regs applied only to page published after the 8/24 deadline.

I'm not sure that I believe this 100%. Isn't every time you log onto a webpage isn't it published again? How about modifying it?

and another bump

80smetal 07-23-2004 07:03 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by xxxjay
and another bump
jay you got icq?


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