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  • Scootermuze
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    • Dec 2001
    • 4513

    #1

    'Reality' sites... real or staged??

    Anyone else notice how obvious some of these so called reality sites are with the staged content?

    These people aren't good enough actors to make it look real..

    Maybe they are relying on some fantasy factor in hopes that the customers just want to think that it's all real...

    Oh well... if it works I suppose it doesn't matter if its fake or not..
  • Scherfi
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    • Jun 2003
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    #2
    do you still believe in santa claus?
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    • blazi
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      • Feb 2003
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      #3
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      • Marcus Aurelius
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        • Apr 2003
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        #4
        next thing your gonna tell me is the easter bunny isnt real...you get out of here with this fluff!

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        • Scootermuze
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          • Dec 2001
          • 4513

          #5
          Originally posted by Scherfi
          do you still believe in santa claus?
          Hmmm.. Does he have a reality site too?

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          • Reak
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            • Mar 2003
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            #6
            That's why we're working on a '' Reality inside Reality '' site. It should be finnished 1 week agow but it takes ages to set it up.

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            • Scherfi
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              • Jun 2003
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              #7
              Originally posted by Scootermuze
              Hmmm.. Does he have a reality site too?
              yes: www.santassausagepizza.com
              http://www.fastthumber.com

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              • Scootermuze
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                • Dec 2001
                • 4513

                #8
                Well.. the reason I asked is.. I'm wondering how long it will be before enough people get tired of being lead to believe something is real when it isn't, and stop believing any of em are real; ruining it for those that are real..

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                • amacontent
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                  • Feb 2003
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                  #9
                  Thats why reality orders dying out. Getting kind of boring for surfers I guess
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                  • rowan
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                    • Mar 2002
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                    #10
                    Hello! I'm an attractive guy with a toned body. I like to eat pizza though. Imagine my surprise when my latest delivery was handled by two gorgeous girls in hot bikinis. When they coyly suggested that they would give me the pizza for nothing if I fucked both of them (at least one in the ass), I couldn't say no. Hilarity ensued

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                    • Matiz
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                      • Mar 2004
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                      #11
                      Originally posted by Scherfi
                      do you still believe in santa claus?
                      ...

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                      • CDSmith
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                        • May 2001
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                        #12
                        Originally posted by rowan
                        Hello! I'm an attractive guy with a toned body. I like to eat pizza though. Imagine my surprise when my latest delivery was handled by two gorgeous girls in hot bikinis. When they coyly suggested that they would give me the pizza for nothing if I fucked both of them (at least one in the ass), I couldn't say no. Hilarity ensued
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                        • JohnW
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                          #13
                          Originally posted by Scootermuze
                          ...stop believing any of em are real; ruining it for those that are real..
                          Those that ARE real? Lol...which "reality" sites do you think are real...I mean, where the girl or guy being "picked up" is completely oblivious to the situation and has no idea that he or she is going to be in a porn site/video?


                          J.

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                          • bigdog
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                            • Jul 2001
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                            #14
                            Originally posted by amacontent
                            Thats why reality orders dying out. Getting kind of boring for surfers I guess
                            Are reality orders really dying out? Are your customers just ordering straight up gonzo movies?

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                            • Groove
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                              • Jan 2003
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                              #15
                              Originally posted by Scootermuze
                              Reality' sites... real or staged?

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                              • Scootermuze
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                                • Dec 2001
                                • 4513

                                #16
                                Originally posted by JohnW
                                Those that ARE real? Lol...which "reality" sites do you think are real...I mean, where the girl or guy being "picked up" is completely oblivious to the situation and has no idea that he or she is going to be in a porn site/video?


                                J.
                                Those types of sites have been obvious from the gitgo..

                                Other sites that are trying to come across as reality that try to come up with different themes are almost funny in their attempts..

                                I guess it's like the 'voyeur' sites that claim the hidden cam scenarios are real..
                                I suppose they can say, 'real hidden cams' because the cams are out of site.. They just forget to mention that the participants know that they're there..

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                                • Meta Ridley
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                                  • Sep 2003
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                                  #17
                                  Originally posted by Scootermuze
                                  Anyone else notice how obvious some of these so called reality sites are with the staged content?

                                  These people aren't good enough actors to make it look real..

                                  Maybe they are relying on some fantasy factor in hopes that the customers just want to think that it's all real...

                                  Oh well... if it works I suppose it doesn't matter if its fake or not..


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                                    • fuelcell
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                                      • Jun 2003
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                                      #19
                                      "Reality" shows like Casino and becoming staged, too. Like usual, porn leads the way.
                                      Beat it. Nothing to see here.

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                                      • FlyingIguana
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                                        #20
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                                        • wtfent
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                                          #21
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                                          • StuartD
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                                            #22
                                            Uhmm... someone wanting to get their jerk on doesn't care if it's real or not.

                                            It's just a scenario that they can imagine themself being in... they can close their eyes and put themself into the place of the stunt cock and imagine it's happening to them until they splooge on their keyboard and go back to watching the Simpsons.

                                            Do you think guys really cares if the girl getting the DP treatment really delivered the pizza or not?
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                                            • gregtx
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                                              #23
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                                              • SykkBoy2
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                                                #24
                                                reality sites sell a FANTASY to the surfer...what the fuck is wrong with that?
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                                                • Manowar
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                                                  • Dec 2003
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                                                  #25
                                                  It is a fantasy, they want to see it being acting out then for someone to start fucking, who do you want - Mel Gibson and Julia Roberts Directed By Steven Spielberg ?

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                                                  • ZanyCash Larry
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                                                    #26
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                                                    • ModelBuffet
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                                                      #27
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                                                      • Far-L
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                                                        #28
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                                                        • FlyingIguana
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                                                          #29
                                                          Originally posted by Manowar
                                                          It is a fantasy, they want to see it being acting out then for someone to start fucking, who do you want - Mel Gibson and Julia Roberts Directed By Steven Spielberg ?
                                                          now that would sell

                                                          maybe they can add an academy award for best celebrity cumshot

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                                                          • Mutt
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                                                            • Sep 2002
                                                            • 34431

                                                            #30
                                                            reality is just a little different spin on 'gonzo' - done well it's great, done bad it's lame.

                                                            http://www.netvideogirls.com <--- best reality site ever - majority of members believe it's real - and it is quasi-real which is why it works so well.

                                                            but dressing some guy up as a plumber or a pizza man and making that work as a reality site - lame - would take a master filmmaker to make that good. those type of reality concepts are nothing new - they're old porn vignettes that have been used since 8mm porn loops.

                                                            i think the trend is moving away from contrived reality to just good solid gonzo type scenes featuring different fetishes and niches.

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                                                            • DWB
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                                                              • Jul 2003
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                                                              #31
                                                              If many of the reality sites did not use known porn chicks for their content, claiming that they just picked her off the street, it may be more passable.

                                                              The good news is that a man with a hard dick will believe just about anything as long as it plays into his fantasy of the moment. Fake or not, if the guy is fantasizing that it's real... it's real enough for him to get his nut off.

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                                                              • johnbosh
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                                                                #32
                                                                its all fake

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                                                                • Mutt
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                                                                  • Sep 2002
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                                                                  #33
                                                                  Originally posted by DirtyWhiteBoy
                                                                  If many of the reality sites did not use known porn chicks for their content, claiming that they just picked her off the street, it may be more passable.

                                                                  The good news is that a man with a hard dick will believe just about anything as long as it plays into his fantasy of the moment. Fake or not, if the guy is fantasizing that it's real... it's real enough for him to get his nut off.
                                                                  that's the key, if u shoot it well enough the surfer is willing to suspend his disbelief just like he does when he goes to the movie theater.

                                                                  if girls who work in porn movies weren't used u'd have a hard time running one site let alone 10.
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                                                                  • Peter Romero
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                                                                    • Feb 2003
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                                                                    #34
                                                                    Some are 99% real - www.povporn.com - tired of fake "Reality Porn"?


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                                                                    • phatzane®
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                                                                      #35
                                                                      Originally posted by DirtyWhiteBoy

                                                                      The good news is that a man with a hard dick will believe just about anything as long as it plays into his fantasy of the moment. Fake or not, if the guy is fantasizing that it's real... it's real enough for him to get his nut off.
                                                                      EXACTLY!! u hit the nail on the head maing. these guys want to believe what they are seeing. the whole thing about porn is fantasy for the customer. girls they cant have, with positions they will never do in their own home, with far-fetched "reality" based pick-ups. I actually had an old friend from highschool contact me and asked me how i got all these girls to come fuck me with camera's on. i was blown away, had to tell him the real, but thats just the kind of person they are selling it to. a horny dumbass ;)


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                                                                      • polish_aristocrat
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                                                                        • Jul 2002
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                                                                        #36
                                                                        Originally posted by Reak
                                                                        That's why we're working on a '' Reality inside Reality '' site. It should be finnished 1 week agow but it takes ages to set it up.

                                                                        someone is already doing it

                                                                        btw unfortunately this whole industry is built on fake promisses and scamming surfers in one way or another, whether you like it or not :-/
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                                                                        • EviLGuY
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                                                                          • Apr 2003
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                                                                          #37
                                                                          Originally posted by rowan
                                                                          Hello! I'm an attractive guy with a toned body. I like to eat pizza though. Imagine my surprise when my latest delivery was handled by two gorgeous girls in hot bikinis. When they coyly suggested that they would give me the pizza for nothing if I fucked both of them (at least one in the ass), I couldn't say no. Hilarity ensued
                                                                          Now thats a realistic scenario if ever I heard one.

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                                                                          • phatzane®
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                                                                            • Jul 2003
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                                                                            #38
                                                                            personally i really like naughtyamerica's idea for fasttimesatnau. its more like a soap opera, dramatic type reality site where u have to tune in next week to find out what happens and shit. the talent arent working all improv like most reality sites, they actually give them lines, and the story lines are awesome.


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                                                                            • Paul Markham
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                                                                              • Jun 2001
                                                                              • 52942

                                                                              #39
                                                                              Originally posted by bigdog
                                                                              Are reality orders really dying out? Are your customers just ordering straight up gonzo movies?
                                                                              The difference between Gonzo and Reality is the shooter, look a the masters of Gonzo.

                                                                              Ed Powers
                                                                              John Stagliano
                                                                              Ben Dover.

                                                                              These guys have personality that rubs off on the girl. Some of the reality producers also have personality that rubs off on the girl and you wish it didn't.

                                                                              To make "Reality" seem real you have to believe the girls are enjoying it, that if you had been there she would of done the same to you. THAT SHE WAS NOT PUTTING UP WITH THE GUY TO GET HER MONEY.

                                                                              And let's face it how many times do we see that from a reality shoot?



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                                                                              • paytonrain
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                                                                                #40
                                                                                I have to agree that it would help not using known actresses for the shoots and pretending they just got picked up on the corner. If someone believes netvideogirls is real he definately uses known girls so you would have to really want to believe it's real to buy that.

                                                                                It's pretty simple if you don't see them sit down and fill out the model release form then it's not real and how interesting would that be.
                                                                                "Hi, I'm so and so and I need you to fill this out and I am going to film you nonstop for a bikini shoot but with this video camera. Oh now can you get naked and have sex with me, it'll help get you this modeling job advertised in the paper."
                                                                                You have to have an imagination to get into these storylines. I also don't think the party sites are much different I mean alot of girls that model on here have probably gotten job offers to come pretend your hanging out and some college party but do all the wild stuff you see.

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                                                                                • Paul Markham
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                                                                                  • Jun 2001
                                                                                  • 52942

                                                                                  #41
                                                                                  Originally posted by wtfent
                                                                                  Nebraska coeds and thiswillshockyou.com our the only sites I know of on the net that produce real content.
                                                                                  right al those girls just turned up with IDs, were wll over 18 and none of them ran home the moment they saw a camera.

                                                                                  All porn is staged to some degree.



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                                                                                  • Peter Romero
                                                                                    Long time no happy ending
                                                                                    • Feb 2003
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                                                                                    #42
                                                                                    Originally posted by paytonrain
                                                                                    I have to agree that it would help not using known actresses for the shoots and pretending they just got picked up on the corner. If someone believes netvideogirls is real he definately uses known girls so you would have to really want to believe it's real to buy that.

                                                                                    It's pretty simple if you don't see them sit down and fill out the model release form then it's not real and how interesting would that be.
                                                                                    "Hi, I'm so and so and I need you to fill this out and I am going to film you nonstop for a bikini shoot but with this video camera. Oh now can you get naked and have sex with me, it'll help get you this modeling job advertised in the paper."
                                                                                    You have to have an imagination to get into these storylines. I also don't think the party sites are much different I mean alot of girls that model on here have probably gotten job offers to come pretend your hanging out and some college party but do all the wild stuff you see.
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                                                                                    • Paul Markham
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                                                                                      • Jun 2001
                                                                                      • 52942

                                                                                      #43
                                                                                      Originally posted by DirtyWhiteBoy


                                                                                      The good news is that a man with a hard dick will believe just about anything as long as it plays into his fantasy of the moment. Fake or not, if the guy is fantasizing that it's real... it's real enough for him to get his nut off.
                                                                                      If that were true there would be a lot more idiots doing it and not failing after a few months.

                                                                                      The guy with his dick in his hand does not want to look at a girl who is looking back with contempt, disinterest, dislike, boredom or shrugging her shoulders.

                                                                                      He may have a hard on but not all his brain cells are frazzled.



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                                                                                      • Paul Markham
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                                                                                        • Jun 2001
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                                                                                        #44
                                                                                        Originally posted by phatzane®
                                                                                        EXACTLY!! u hit the nail on the head maing. these guys want to believe what they are seeing. the whole thing about porn is fantasy for the customer. girls they cant have, with positions they will never do in their own home, with far-fetched "reality" based pick-ups. I actually had an old friend from highschool contact me and asked me how i got all these girls to come fuck me with camera's on. i was blown away, had to tell him the real, but thats just the kind of person they are selling it to. a horny dumbass ;)
                                                                                        Got a point, all my friends think I fuck every girl who comes through the studio, which is total bullshit.

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                                                                                        • Jim_Gunn
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                                                                                          #45
                                                                                          I can say this, no matter if the practice of calling these web sites "reality"sites falls out of favor, the trend towards programs and webmasters producing exclusive video content with various themes, concepts and gimmicks is only going to increase. Well done exclusive video content is what the surfers want. So producers like me with the ability to cast lots of new faces paired with good sets and good filming and editing will be in demand.

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                                                                                          • Mutt
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                                                                                            • Sep 2002
                                                                                            • 34431

                                                                                            #46
                                                                                            Originally posted by paytonrain
                                                                                            I have to agree that it would help not using known actresses for the shoots and pretending they just got picked up on the corner. If someone believes netvideogirls is real he definately uses known girls so you would have to really want to believe it's real to buy that.
                                                                                            sorry, go watch some netvideogirls episodes and watch a master at work.

                                                                                            yes some girls on there become known porn girls later on - it's unavoidable, in any city in the world. but at least half the girls on that site are not seen elsewhere.

                                                                                            the site is believeable because it's a pretty simple premise, you can believe a girl will answer an ad in the paper for
                                                                                            a swimwear calendar and girls show up and it's not a calendar the guy is interested in.

                                                                                            there's a guy in L.A. who uses this deception in real life and it works
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                                                                                            • Mutt
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                                                                                              • Sep 2002
                                                                                              • 34431

                                                                                              #47
                                                                                              and povpornguy's site is real - he is a porn scout, tho it was more real when he was more actively recruiting. there's no fake premise other than he found the girl and her first scene is shot for him in his house.
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                                                                                              • Mutt
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                                                                                                • Sep 2002
                                                                                                • 34431

                                                                                                #48
                                                                                                Originally posted by phatzane®
                                                                                                personally i really like naughtyamerica's idea for fasttimesatnau. its more like a soap opera, dramatic type reality site where u have to tune in next week to find out what happens and shit. the talent arent working all improv like most reality sites, they actually give them lines, and the story lines are awesome.
                                                                                                haven't seen any of the episodes but i've yet to see a porn movie where porn girls and guys can deliver written dialogue well - some
                                                                                                can improvise pretty well if they're basically playing themselves.
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                                                                                                  • uvort
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                                                                                                    #50
                                                                                                    Isnt it just like reality T.V. .. If other people say its real, most people will believe...
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