Have you tried 123bill for billing?
 

it looks very good

http://www.123bill.com/moverview.htm


what are your thoughts on this?

Nope i didnt.

I use Ibill for porn & 2checkout for mainstream projects

Reak,its a billing alternative for users without a credit card.

We are currently incorporating 123Bill into NATS.

It should be nice as an alternative to CC and Checks, rate is kinda high, but then again there are no chargebacks or credits. It might also be good as a last-resort for a CC or Check cascade, but they might not like sending total rejects to them.

Another good thing of it being around is that we have a last-resort alternative in case CC total goes down the drain, which I hope will never happen. But better safe than sorry.

Sounds good.

You can now turn any U.S. citizen 18 years of age or older into a viable customer with guaranteed payment on every purchase!

We're using them right now on some of our sites with great results.

Soon we will also add them to our affiliate tours, so that our partners will get that extra shot at making sales :thumbsup

nice,these are the things i want to hear :thumbsup

any info about their fee % ?

They keep 35% and assume all risks.
You are guaranteed your 65% whether or not the guy actually pays the bill.

It makes a great option for surfers with no credit cards. I dont worry about the %, since it's money we would not otherwise have earned at all. I've also found that they are more likely to choose the higher ticket price points :-)

Soul_Rebel, i had lunch with the guys from 123bill earlier this week. great people, they really have their shit together. i am going through this with them and plan on using it myself, it's a great alternative. :thumbsup

awesome! :thumbsup

interesting concept

My thoughts are they will be gone with your rebills in about a year. If that.

2checkout can really sucks my cock ...

I wouldn't trust any new CC processor with all that happened to the other ones

lol they will not accept adult for long,

it's NOT a credit card processor

:glugglug

Sorry for the delay in responding.. we just got back in from the Chicago WM event put on by Dr Bizarro... great time, btw! ;-)

Thank you for the kind words about 123Bill from most of you...

As was mentioned, 123bill.com is NOT a CC processor.. we are simply an alternative payment option, designed to handle those surfer's that either do NOT have a CC, or will not use one online.

As was mentioned, we guarantee payouts and assume all liability for collecting the outstanding customer bill...

Those that doubt our stability or duration, will always exist... I suppose time will tell with those...

I will say, that this program is owned by Brad, of MojoHost/SinEMpire ( formaly SinHost, and SinTalk ) and Brad has been a stable force in this industry for years, and will be for years to come!

:thumbsup

Very interesting

Every brilliant new business is always met with skepticism by those that lack vision.

You can sit here and disagree until you're blue in the face... I'm going to make merchants and affiliates millions. If you don't want any of it for yourself, that's your issue. The rest of us, we'll be laughing all the way to the bank.

Cheers,

Brad

Nope Brad from sinhost owns them and i know for a fact they are going to be around.

Obviously I'm biased...but I wouldn't work here if I didn't believe this was a great product. And I wouldn't work for Brad if I hadn't come to know him over the years as an exceptionally rare example of integrity, ethics and vision seldom found in this business.

I'm truly excited to be in on the ground floor with this venture. Thanks to those of you who have been and continue to be supportive. Those who are hesitant, I can appreciate your doubts as many of you have been burned by other companies. Bide your time if you wish, once you have seen the proof, we'll still be here to sign you up.

For those that want to start making more money now, as opposed to waiting till everyone else has already made it, shoot me an email, icq or phone call and I'll get you started.

[email protected]
icq: 233969317

Just thought I'd throw in Brad's a really nice guy. :thumbsup

Cheers,
Matt

You are truly clueless:1orglaugh

brad is not the only one whos been around, dealing with adult collections ESPECIALLY PAYSITES is not like dealing with collections of other services.

To call everyone who doest agree people without a vision is simply stupid, like anything else in adult time will tell.

OK yes I agree with this:winkwink: time will tell:2 cents:

I'd say that the bulk of those who might disagree would absolutely be those who lack vision. Threads like this will be full of people who are happy to comment without even taking the time to read through our website to understand what we're about.

You have some basis for your skepticism because you are more experienced than most. I think your hesitation is at least well informed. I never said that our endeavor was easily undertaken, if it was that easy we wouldn't be having this conversation. If you truly believe that it's destined to fail then we'll simply have to agree to disagree and I'll have to show you over a great length of time that it is in fact successful.

Time certainly will tell, so let's start the clock today. I encourage people to question us and challenge our abilities and apologize for generalizing as I did.

:thumbsup

Cheers,

Brad

I agree it is found money.......

We are using http://gx900.com as alt. billing option 900 Voice/pin and full top teir international solution... With all these options, you are sure to add to your bottom line....

B-

I dig the thought of no client liability.
hrrrrrrrrm *checks out their site*

Looks like some good stuff to me! :)

Not everyone wants to use a CC online, but checks they will because they are so familur to people. best part to me would be that you get paid, no matter if the person stops payment of the check. (I think I got that right.)

All true! We believe that fraud, defined as a stolen identity or consumer with no intention of paying their bills, accounts for a certain percentage of all activity. What I've done is taken everything into consideration (uncollectables, cost of collections, etc) and factored it into one fee. I believe one of our greatest challenges will be beating affiliate fraud, not consumer fraud... and we have tools in place for that, too.

Brad

Whoo Hoo!! 123bill.com Rocks!!

I can vouch for 123Jason, he wouldn't be involved in anything that wouldn't be the absolute best. :thumbsup

i was also skeptical about the program until brad explained everything to me. our industry desperately needs a program like this will all the cc scrubbing going on.

the 123bill program sounds like it offers the surfers less anonymity, which is a good thing as far as chargeback and refund bullshit goes.

i'm SO sick of hearing that someone's friend, son or brother used their card. every time i talk to these people, they admit they used their card. sounds like 123bill might be able to take this crap out of our equation.

The people behind the program are a rock solid bunch which can't often be said in the industry!

Is this available to surfers all over the world?

And can someone post a signup form so I can have a look at it?

Thanks

never herad of em

123bill rox.

and brad is so sexy

:Graucho