Beheadings vs. Humiliation... Which is Worse?
 

So our soldiers embarrassed a few Iraqi's. Cry me a fucking river. Boo hoo, my pussy hurts. Poor whittle feewings get hurt a whittle?

See what they do to our CIVILIAN CONTRACTORS?

Civilian Contractor Beheaded.

Now do you understand WHY a few prisoners are EMBARASSED? To try to gather intel to prevent shit like beheadings.

They are lucky we didnt make them fuck each other in the fucking ass and take pics of that.
Fucking pricks.

war time. shit happens. civilians are doing nothing else in a foreign hell hole named Iraq than to be risking their lives. and the worst scenario happened.

Send back the troops and start blasting :BangBang: :ak47:

uh yeah. they needed to take all the pics... not because they were fucking around and playing games... but because they were trying to prevent beheadings.

how many people do you think those pics will kill? 1-2-5-10-50? more?

You're right, those pics shouldn't have been taken.

do me a favor and drop the coldness, tough guy act. shit happens? a civilian, and one of ours, got his fucking head cut off for the bullshit reason of so-called retaliation of our treatment of their prisoners. the fact is.........they wanted to do that because thats what they do. I don't need to see that and then read some guy sluffing it off or making light of it. it makes you look ridiculous.

Is it hard for some of you to understand that the Iraqi prisoner pics shown where the least horrible of the bunch? Others portray rape, torture, murder by beating and so many disgusting stuff.

Anyone who thinks the US should use torture and act like Al-Qaeda does is not a true American and not so different from Saddam who thought the same.

Is it hard for you to understand that those are all unproven allegations, but that a CIVILIAN was beheaded by these fucking idiots? A fact proven by video...

Murder by beating? Back that statment up right now.

He can't back up the rumors.

If I was shocked to death for every person killed in that war, I'd need a lot of cat lives. It is terrible, no questions asked.
However, I'd rather mourn over the 18-22 y.o. kids that die there on the battle field daily.

I already explained myself in length in the thread in which the vid was posted, Get off my nuts.

the civilian did nothing wrong....granted he was an idiot for being there but he still did nothing wrong....on the other hand the extremists that were locked up in the prison deserve to be tortured after all the innocent people they kill....

I'm not saying that it's good to behead people, it's disgusting and repugnant. I'm pointing out that the prisoners where tortured, not just humiliated.

"The American public needs to understand we're talking about rape and murder here. We're not just talking about giving people a humiliating experience," Republican Sen. Lindsey Graham of South Carolina told reporters after Rumsfeld testified before the Senate Armed Services Committee.

You probably don't believe him either but I'm sure that they will release the rest of the pictures soon enough.

More than 60% of the prisoners are innocent people held for interrogation and then released. Get your facts straight.

Beheading...obviously. We didn't treat them any worse then
any College Fraternity Hazing. That Video won;t get out of my fucking head :feels-hot :ak47: :helpme

This type of treatment is very mild compared to when Saddam was calling the shots- now they whine....where is the outcry by arabs for american prisoners who are abused? :BangBang:

Your point is well-made about the ppl dying over there everyday. Death is in fact death. Its final. But the reality is there are also certain ways to die, and different reasons. Think of that before you sluff off an innocent American civilian, TRYING TO LEAVE IRAQ MIND YOU, getting beheaded and having it filmed. It deserves more than a mere and trite "shit happens" comment. Thats an embarrassment to even read.

You *ARE* clueless aren't you?

Morons are among us people!! DonovanPhilips is their leader...

Terrorists (Alquaida to be precise) kill one person.... and you are surprised??

Criminals kill people with no reasons and dont apologize... The good guys dont lower themselves to their levels... thats why they are the good ones.. they follow the laws established, they give the exemple .. Get it!?

Funny also how you compare the prisoners tortured in Iraq which most of them werent killers or terrorists... to the alqaida terrorists that killed the contractor.. Would you like to be ass raped by a cop that just arrested you thinking you rape someone... so he can get you to confess!? Wouldnt you be happy that there's a law preventing him from doing that!?

lol

Theorically speaking... I give you a choice... choose between:

3 US contractor dying burned alive after their car exploded (bomb)... maybe sufering for long minutes before dying...

Or 1 US contractor getting his head chopped... on video... and dying nearly instantly...

?

Let see if you are a rational person... lol

Bad comparison. How long did the people in the car fear for their lives BEFORE the crash? I don't think the guy who had his head chopped off was happy for the few last days of his life.

the beheading was more personal. humiliating.

Beheadings = Al Quada

Humiliation = Iraqis

Please don't mix the two :(

In fact the report out from the Red Cross today (that was actually compiled several weeks ago) said that fully 90% of the Iraqis imprisoned SHOULDN'T be. That the imprisonments were gross over-reactions by Bush & company.

Come on folks..get real here. How fucking many top Iraqi spies CAN there truly be that have info that will help the US? SEVERAL thousand? Like the ones that are imprisoned now? These are mostly "GRUNTS"!! The TRUE high up Baath party members and Saddam loyalists are kept SEPERATE from this prision population under HIGH security because they DO know things!

I have a few reasons that led me to the harsh and quick "shit happens". But in fact, it does happen, can't deny it.

The circumstances under which the guy was in Iraq are pretty suspicious anyway. Why would he have gotten interrogated for two weeks by the FBI? I think there oughta be more to it.

Bottom line: if you are a civilian from a country that is ragin' a war in another country, stay the fuck away from the other country, especially if it's infested with radical, extremistic lunatics who hate your country, your guts, and like to slice heads for breakfast. :2 cents:

i was saying the beheading was more personal and humiliating than the 3 people getting killed in the car.

some of the iraqi detainees died, also.

Bingo!

and his head wasnt just chopped off.. it took them a while to get it off... much of the time he was suffering and knew what was happening to him

If you truly think that somehow our REJECTION of barbaric treatment of enemy combatants somehow brought about the death of this man..then you are truly CLUELESS!

So it wouldn't have been so bad if he had just been shot in the head instead?



If so, where was your OUTRAGE several months ago when the insurgents were doing that already? NOW, it's really bad because of HOW they made the person die eh? But not so bad before?

so is that it?! The fear of being killed that make it so atrocious!?? Funny how the US contractor that just escaped seems to be ok right now... You think we would have made such a big deal out of that if at the last second.. the terrorist would have released him!?? THe head chopping is what bother people.. period!

and if this thing hadnt been videotaped.. and the guy would have simply been shot.. nobody would have talked about... just like the 3 contractors that were killed when their car exploded...

Yes it was. But at the end of the day they ALL are still DEAD!
You should be outraged from DAY one when the FIRST INNOCENT died in this war!

a few things the first contrators killed were soldiers of fortune.This guy who was beheaded was arrested by the iraqi police and then given over to the us military .they held him with no lawyer. His parents had filed papers in federal court for his release .then he somehow wound up in terrorist hands. isnt it amazing this happened just when the whole iraqi prisoner thing was really hitting the fan.

how about the 7000 innocent iraqi's that have died?

lol... I rather be humiliated and have 1 guy dead... then not be humiliated and have 2.... but im maybe too rational... lol

We live in such a sick, twisted world in which there is not one day that doesn't pass without having cases of domestic rape, violence, murder, abuse... the list goes on. In times of war, the whole ordeal is multiplied by cultural and religious differences, sharp hatred -- and leads ultimately to tortures (followed by death) and beheadings.

But I thought that was clear to everyone. Apparently not.

But you guys are right, this is explosive news material, and the media will blow it the fuck out of proportion for the hungry masses.

Too bad the media won't feed you all the other shit that goes on behind the scenes.

Probably the beheading would compare like stupid kiddy shit to some of the war field agony out there. This war just fuckin' bites. :(

Ehh? What are you talking about? I didn't talk about MY feelings. You asked me to choose between 'instant' death of one, or a few minutes suffering by 3. I simply pointed out that the 'instant' death wasn't so instant. So before you start your rambling maybe you should think what you asked first.