whats ur biggest TGP hate?
 

What is the main thing that really pisses you off with TGPs?

STUPID RULES and nazi reviewers :)

You know what I mean the "You must do a little dance, shake your left leg five times, sing a song, then pat your head while rubbing your stomach" to submit here type tgps :)

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rules of submitting for just 5 gallery hits

Dialers on the submit page and shit (TRUETGP.COM)

Yeah that sucks too.

I wish there was some sort of unified standard for TGPs so the rules issues disappear altogether.:2 cents:

Im going to reverse the question and ask if you created a tgp how would u like it to work/what features would you liek to see?

Recips that look more or less like a FPA
TGP owners that sell their submitters emails to spammers

heheh this is so fucking funny

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Your gallery did not load



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and my gallery load very fast more than 9 monht

More tgps send less hits than they have rules.

Your gallery took more then 1 min to load for me. :2 cents:

keeping track of all the different rules and making different sized preview thumbs is a pain in the ass.

Getting banned for unknown or unfair reason.

must submit a 88x88 thumb, or a 120x90 thumb thats no larger than 5k, but it must be high quality. im sick of having like 10 different thumbs to create just to submit. i also hate nazzi reviewers....

Didnt load at all here...

yah well, I started my site listing hundreds of galleries a day for free,

and still do, people thank me all the time for making them sales and listings them daily,

but you know what some gallery makes are cool and some are winy bitchs, and some are cheaters

I had to pay 800$ and custome work for a script, I pay a reveiwer, full time, just so I can continue to take public submitions and review everyone by the next day, which costs me2000$cdn a month, granted she is a assitant and does other work but the majority is reviewing,

so the point is I spend money to list people for free,
and then about 30% of the submitions are cheaters,

so I spend money to be fucked over,

the pooint is I nead gallery makers and they nead me,

and the ones who can play ball with me get listed daily and on top of that the best get partners accoutn and get listed 3 times a day,

but the winny bitchs, and stupid idiots and cheaters, can kiss my ass,

these cheaters come and talk to me on icq to feel me out and get un banned and try to figure out how I catch them,

so im sorry when you get banned, you have to jump through hoops, I have to protect my listings, and my site from crap,

I got cheaters trying to suck up to me just so they can get over on me a second time, and then I get hit botted and spamed and hacker attacked, when they get fuctrated, by me standing up to them,

so the rules are mine and for my site, so if you follow them you get listed, its simple,

thanks,:2 cents:

My gripe is the amount of pics most ask for -

I would sooner see 10 pics max on a gallery -

I am certain this amount would improve ctr's by a huge % (When I did this with my hosted galleries, ctr's improved dramatically)

my programmers developing a system that will eliminate all need for submissions or category scripts. but i will only give it to the ppl i work worth because it will basically have no need for submissions and will probly ruin peoples extra income. i hate tgp submitters to many are idiots and dont understand you have to have something original or out there. soon i dont think any public submissions will be left.

I fucking hate the different descriptions lenghts: 15, 20, 25, 30, 35, 40, 45 .... all the way up to 65!!! :BangBang:

I hate that TGPs give away everything that could make us all 10x more money :feels-hot

you hate that you're not getting a part of it.

small tgps that ask more than large tgps...
wtf im getting listed on 300K+ tgps and not on a 50k tgp...

I fuckin HATE cheaters.. Low life scum bags..

Heres an Idea...Why dont you people start one for yourself and have to deal with the bullshit of running some.If it isn't the fucking cheaters its fucking Acacia sticking another hand in your pocket...

I so desperately want to repond by saying that you're all mad at the wrong people, but I don't know how to explain it without writing a book worth of shit. Basically, TGPs have all those rules in place to try and limit cheaters and make their lives easier. Too bad they don't know the truth. I have a couple of TGP sites and get anywhere from 400 to 1200 submissions a day at each of them. On average, over 80% of the submissions come from 3-4 people...and all of those will redirect first time uniques away from the galleries. Unfornately, most TGP owners have no way of detecting these "cheaters".

The real problem with these guys is that they are submitting really nice galleries with lots of high quality pics. Those nice galleries are hard for the average submitter to compete with. Or...some cheaters just go out and find nice galleries that were created by talented webmasters and copy them. They submit the copy and then, once it's listed on a TGP, will start to redirect traffic from that gallery. (I mean, how many times have you seen webmasters complain that they've found their stuff copied? And you were wondering why you're sponsor code...or your work...has been blacklisted!!!)

Anyone figured out why all the hoops yet? It looks to me like there are just a few outfits out there that are submitting tons of quality content and they can afford to do it because they're redirecting traffic, etc.

If anyone has any suggestions or questions, I'd really like to hear them. Would really like to know how to block out these big guys and give my links space to the average webmaster who has worked his butt off to make a $.

Da' money shots.

I don't need a part of it :) :winkwink:

Then why are you so furious?

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Yea and after that the fucker sends you 5 hits....pffff


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I made this handle when I was miffed one day and stuck with it. I am usually infuriated about one thing or another though! :1orglaugh

Very informative post, ShadowHawk. Good points raised.

My question is, aren't most TGPs using scripts to manage their listings? Don't these scripts check the listings to see if they have changed?

I hate that so very few webmasters take the time to answer emails when it comes to their tgp.. Yes, i understand that there probably are tons of emails every day, but mine is the important one damnit!!:mad: :winkwink:

but other then that.. i think that the cheaters will keep pushing in the tgp business untill everyone and their mother is using trusted submissions only.. hate the fact that it has to be trusted submissions only, but believe thats the way we are heading.

*plug*
if you want a trusted submitter, pick me!
*/plug*

I know you hate TGPs, but you would be less furious if you applied for preferred submit status with us. I mean half the guys on here that trash TGPs still submit to them, they just keep it quiet. Same as TGP2, a lot of those guys still submit regular TGP galleries too. :)

That's a pain! And some tgp's don't even tell the character limit, so it's all down to guessing, getting a description error and having to go back to correct it. :mad:

The traffic.

A-fucking-men

Hmm I have so many but I still do submit. My biggest gripe is a follow on from Howling Wulf's about getting banned for no bloody reason except that the common theme revolves around them being an AGP site which sends you about 5 hits :BangBang:

I experienced it today with some piddly TGP so I look it up in whois (sometimes its someone you know whose script has had a brainfart) and I find that the domain was registered 3 weeks ago! I find it infuriating that I can submit to almost all of the biggers sites & have partner accounts with most of them for a couple of years and then get some prick with a fortnight old TGP ban me for fuck knows what.

I think what I am going to do is ban all their URL's from my TGP's. Sucks for a submitter who pairs one of my sites with theirs but fuck 'em.

Oh and some banned words piss me right off too. Tonight I encountered "avi" as a banned word. A subsequent check found the word "having" in my gallery. And for those who ban "pet", dont you realise thats fucks up "petite"?

Thumbnail previews!

Fuck come on, I've already done my part making your content!
You can have 1 size, you want it different, you make it.

88x88 , 100x100 , 90x120 , 120 x 90 ...make up your god damn
minds.

Thanks for the great thread on *rules* on submitting to a TGP. It just reminded me that I needed to update Rule 1. Kudos for the suggestions., but Rule 1 should take care of most of it.

Take a look:

Submit Page

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