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  • Choker
    Confirmed User
    • Apr 2001
    • 9024

    #1

    Time to fight back...ALL TGPS READ THIS

    Ok, since it is pretty obvious by now that Acacia is going after TGPs that link to galleries and or sites that have video on it, unless we do something we are all fucked. We need a organized effort to combat this. Not from some site we never heard of that comes on the scene when this Acacia crap started.


    We need a attorney representing us all in mass. I doubt VERY seriously that any site that simply links to a gallery with video on it is actually in violation of this patent. However since we are being challenged it is up to US to prove this.

    What I propose is simple......

    I can set up a script to take payments, record EVERY expense, record every webmaster that donates and his sites. The more webmasters that participate the lower the cost per webmaster. I can keep full stats so at the end anyone paying more than his share can get refunded. If the total costs to fight this is $100000 and there are 1000 webmasters represented, then the cost will be $100 each.

    I live in Orlando, isn't the top Internet attorney in Altamonte Springs? Somebody got the contact info for him? I can meet with the attorneys as needed. I can keep track of everything and make available access to everything to anyone who participates.

    Remember history, first the letter then a summons. We cannot afford to wait until we are served a court summons.

    Any thoughts, suggestion on this please post. Don't waste your breath with the Acacia should die posts. PLEASE post constructive ideas. WE HAVE TO BAN TOGETHER on this. WE HAVE TO DO SOMETHING NOW and at the same time keep the costs to each individual webmaster as low as possible.
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    • Jun 2002
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    • Theo
      HAL 9000
      • May 2001
      • 34515

      #3
      you are on a good path,i have a temp idea for tgps and mgps im gonna email impai in a bit. Needless to say i was about to ask you what you're gonna do with the streaming galleries you use.

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      • Theo
        HAL 9000
        • May 2001
        • 34515

        #4
        btw, add $500 from me to this fund

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        • Dawgy
          Confirmed User
          • Jul 2001
          • 5856

          #5
          ive already spoken with my attorney, and when/if i get a letter/packet, we are filing a harassment/extortion suit.
          the revolution is coming.

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          • LadyMischief
            Orgasms N Such!
            • Sep 2002
            • 18135

            #6
            Yeah that's a good idea Choker.. This whole "encouraging patent enfringement" bullshit Acacia is pulling is really pushing the envelope.

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            • Tuga
              Confirmed User
              • Nov 2002
              • 7678

              #7
              Paysites may have to pay in the end, but afilliates and linksites seems absurd... 1 video file, the provider pays, and every afilliate that links to that site pays too... it's just wrong. Fight this and you cant lose.

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              • Choker
                Confirmed User
                • Apr 2001
                • 9024

                #8
                Originally posted by Soul_Rebel
                you are on a good path,i have a temp idea for tgps and mgps im gonna email impai in a bit. Needless to say i was about to ask you what you're gonna do with the streaming galleries you use.
                Can you icq me?
                What I am fishing for is are enough guys behind a effort like this? First step is to get a consensus then consult with a attorney. I do not forsee any attorney not taking a case like this. The exposure to his firm will be TREMENDOUS. I think there are like 4 reknown internet attorneys right here in the Orlando area. No reason I cannot coordinate this. Full financial accoutning will be provided to anyone who wants to be a part of this.
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                • TheViper
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                  • Mar 2003
                  • 2560

                  #9
                  Originally posted by Dawgy
                  ive already spoken with my attorney, and when/if i get a letter/packet, we are filing a harassment/extortion suit.
                  that's the way all people should handle this shit.

                  FUCK ACACIA

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                  • broke
                    Confirmed User
                    • Aug 2003
                    • 4501

                    #10
                    'ive already spoken with my attorney, and when/if i get a letter/packet, we are filing a harassment/extortion suit.'

                    Amen.
                    Perfect Gonzo

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                    • PerfectionGirls
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                      • Oct 2002
                      • 4484

                      #11
                      Im with Choker on this... coming at it from several different fronts is a good and smart move.
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                      • Dawgy
                        Confirmed User
                        • Jul 2001
                        • 5856

                        #12
                        yup. i want to force them into a courtroom & in front of a jury. im willing to be that they BEG to settle.
                        the revolution is coming.

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                        • doober
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                          • Jul 2003
                          • 6984

                          #13
                          Originally posted by Dawgy
                          ive already spoken with my attorney, and when/if i get a letter/packet, we are filing a harassment/extortion suit.

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                          • Fletch XXX
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                            • Jan 2002
                            • 60840

                            #14
                            where is lawrence walters in all this?

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                            • Choker
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                              • Apr 2001
                              • 9024

                              #15
                              Originally posted by Tuga
                              Paysites may have to pay in the end, but afilliates and linksites seems absurd... 1 video file, the provider pays, and every afilliate that links to that site pays too... it's just wrong. Fight this and you cant lose.
                              Yes agreed, but why should each webmaster have to fight it on his on and pay all the costs? Why can't we all pool our resources together, and have one law firm represent us? We have to take action NOW. We cannot wait until we get the second letter, which will be a notice of lawsuit.
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                              • CDSmith
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                                • May 2001
                                • 51460

                                #16
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                                • Choker
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                                  • Apr 2001
                                  • 9024

                                  #17
                                  Surely someone has the name of that firm in Altamonte springs, firstamendment.com or something like that? He spoke at the Miami convention
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                                  • Theo
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                                    • May 2001
                                    • 34515

                                    #18
                                    choker,im dont have icq at the moment,send me an email admin @ netexcitement.com and ill get back to you in a sec.


                                    There's no doubt webmasters are willing to help fight these jerks.

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                                    • broke
                                      Confirmed User
                                      • Aug 2003
                                      • 4501

                                      #19
                                      Originally posted by Choker

                                      Yes agreed, but why should each webmaster have to fight it on his on and pay all the costs? Why can't we all pool our resources together, and have one law firm represent us? We have to take action NOW. We cannot wait until we get the second letter, which will be a notice of lawsuit.
                                      Because each person would be a defendant. They are not taking action against a group.

                                      There is NO chance your 'group lawyer' would be in a different state defending all of us.
                                      Perfect Gonzo

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                                      • DarkJedi
                                        No Refunds Issued.
                                        • Feb 2001
                                        • 28301

                                        #20
                                        I'd like to hear what TheLeader has to say about it

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                                        • ToyBoys
                                          Confirmed User
                                          • Mar 2001
                                          • 237

                                          #21
                                          charles carreon is a good lawyer too


                                          he did the sex.com case

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                                          • ToyBoys
                                            Confirmed User
                                            • Mar 2001
                                            • 237

                                            #22
                                            here is his site


                                            http://www.onlinemedialaw.com/


                                            (I recommend him fully)

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                                            • BVF
                                              Black Vagina Finder
                                              • Jan 2002
                                              • 13975

                                              #23
                                              Originally posted by broke


                                              Because each person would be a defendant. They are not taking action against a group.

                                              There is NO chance your 'group lawyer' would be in a different state defending all of us.
                                              that's what I was thinking....they would all be fighting choker's case in Florida...It won't help a tgp owner in michigan..

                                              Unless he got all of the people together with the money FIRST, and then filed a class action lawsuit on behalf of all of them...

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                                              • Tofu
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                                                • Jul 2003
                                                • 5615

                                                #24
                                                This is getting waaaaay the fuck out of hand!
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                                                • TheFLY
                                                  So Fucking Banned
                                                  • Jan 2001
                                                  • 11856

                                                  #25
                                                  Choker is Green Baret...

                                                  Acacia = dead niggas...

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                                                  • Choker
                                                    Confirmed User
                                                    • Apr 2001
                                                    • 9024

                                                    #26
                                                    Originally posted by broke


                                                    Because each person would be a defendant. They are not taking action against a group.

                                                    There is NO chance your 'group lawyer' would be in a different state defending all of us.
                                                    If I am being sued in California do I not have to go there? If we get a group lawyer, he can petition to have all the cases of the clients he represents merged into one trial, since they are all the exact same lawsuit. I am no expert but I am almost POSITVE one firm can represent multipe clients in a class action counter suit, if not the suit itself. Is there such a thing as a class action defense?
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                                                    • CDSmith
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                                                      • May 2001
                                                      • 51460

                                                      #27
                                                      Hmm.... too bad there is no such thing as a "class action defense"..... <img SRC="http://bbs.gofuckyourself.net/board/biggrin.gif">
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                                                      • BVF
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                                                        • Jan 2002
                                                        • 13975

                                                        #28
                                                        Originally posted by Choker


                                                        If I am being sued in California do I not have to go there? If we get a group lawyer, he can petition to have all the cases of the clients he represents merged into one trial, since they are all the exact same lawsuit. I am no expert but I am almost POSITVE one firm can represent multipe clients in a class action counter suit, if not the suit itself. Is there such a thing as a class action defense?
                                                        they won't sue you in california...they'll sue you in Florida

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                                                        • Spunky
                                                          I need a beer
                                                          • Jun 2002
                                                          • 133978

                                                          #29
                                                          Sounds like a great plan ...Good job Choker...count me in for your fight

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                                                          • Slick
                                                            Confirmed User
                                                            • Feb 2001
                                                            • 7338

                                                            #30
                                                            You can count me into this

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                                                            • CDSmith
                                                              Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                              • May 2001
                                                              • 51460

                                                              #31
                                                              Originally posted by Choker
                                                              Is there such a thing as a class action defense?
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                                                              • Choker
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                                                                • Apr 2001
                                                                • 9024

                                                                #32
                                                                Originally posted by BVF


                                                                that's what I was thinking....they would all be fighting choker's case in Florida...It won't help a tgp owner in michigan..

                                                                Unless he got all of the people together with the money FIRST, and then filed a class action lawsuit on behalf of all of them...
                                                                No man, Right now there is no case. We do not wait until there is a case. We all get a attorney representing all of us at the same time. This attorney then can determine if he should reply to the letters on behalf of ALL OF US or not. If he is the attorney and decides to fight and Acacia goes forward with the lawsuits, do you think Acacia is going to fork out the expense of trying every tgp owner one at a time?
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                                                                • pussyluver
                                                                  Clueless OleMan
                                                                  • Mar 2003
                                                                  • 11009

                                                                  #33
                                                                  Agree with Choker, we need to ban together and DO SOMETHING. There is a webmaster association, but they don't be seem to be very visible on this. Articles by Lawrence Walters and the organization he perty much started are all good, but don't seem to be really taking action.

                                                                  Limited funds, but I will contribute to the effort. If choker sets up a fund, I'll send what I can.

                                                                  We're made up of big and small players here. So if the little guys come up with $100 and the bigger players more..... It adds up!

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                                                                  • Bitcha
                                                                    So Fucking Banned
                                                                    • Oct 2003
                                                                    • 19

                                                                    #34
                                                                    hi

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                                                                    • Choker
                                                                      Confirmed User
                                                                      • Apr 2001
                                                                      • 9024

                                                                      #35
                                                                      Originally posted by ToyBoy
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                                                                      thanks, but the guy I am thinking of is in the Orlando area, Altamonte Springs I think
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                                                                      • PhotoGreggXXX
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                                                                        • May 2003
                                                                        • 1616

                                                                        #36
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                                                                        • GFED
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                                                                          • May 2002
                                                                          • 8121

                                                                          #37
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                                                                          • pussyluver
                                                                            Clueless OleMan
                                                                            • Mar 2003
                                                                            • 11009

                                                                            #38
                                                                            We prob have to start an organization and be members, then contribute and be represented as members... Not an attorney here.

                                                                            Fine with me if choker starts it. Like him or not, he makes things happen.

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                                                                            • Choker
                                                                              Confirmed User
                                                                              • Apr 2001
                                                                              • 9024

                                                                              #39
                                                                              Originally posted by PhotoGreggXXX
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                                                                              Ok so the first step is to get a list of attorneys together with their sites. People can read over their past cases and vote on who we contact first? What about any attorneys that have SUCCESSFULLY negotiated settlements already with Acacia?
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                                                                              • GotGauge
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                                                                                • Nov 2001
                                                                                • 3072

                                                                                #40
                                                                                Choker why not set up a Special board for this that is password protected.....So they can not read everything so easily!


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                                                                                • Theo
                                                                                  HAL 9000
                                                                                  • May 2001
                                                                                  • 34515

                                                                                  #41
                                                                                  good thought

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                                                                                  • CDSmith
                                                                                    Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                                                    • May 2001
                                                                                    • 51460

                                                                                    #42
                                                                                    Yes, since someone from Acacia was on some show a few months back whining about how webmasters are all urging each other to fight them and their bogus patent claims and extortions.... Like we're supposed to just bend over and take it.
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                                                                                    • Choker
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                                                                                      • Apr 2001
                                                                                      • 9024

                                                                                      #43
                                                                                      Originally posted by GotGauge
                                                                                      Choker why not set up a Special board for this that is password protected.....So they can not read everything so easily!
                                                                                      hmm, do we want everyone to know what we are doing? Would it be to our benifit that others see a grass roots movement to fight Acacia? I think this is something we should ask a attorney about.
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                                                                                      • Big Fish 47
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                                                                                        • Jun 2003
                                                                                        • 1035

                                                                                        #44
                                                                                        I'll do whatever I can. I can't donate too much, but I'll donate what I can.

                                                                                        Count me in!

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                                                                                        • radical
                                                                                          Confirmed User
                                                                                          • Oct 2003
                                                                                          • 2876

                                                                                          #45
                                                                                          Originally posted by Choker
                                                                                          Ok, since it is pretty obvious by now that Acacia is going after TGPs that link to galleries and or sites that have video on it, unless we do something we are all fucked. We need a organized effort to combat this. Not from some site we never heard of that comes on the scene when this Acacia crap started.


                                                                                          We need a attorney representing us all in mass. I doubt VERY seriously that any site that simply links to a gallery with video on it is actually in violation of this patent. However since we are being challenged it is up to US to prove this.

                                                                                          What I propose is simple......

                                                                                          I can set up a script to take payments, record EVERY expense, record every webmaster that donates and his sites. The more webmasters that participate the lower the cost per webmaster. I can keep full stats so at the end anyone paying more than his share can get refunded. If the total costs to fight this is $100000 and there are 1000 webmasters represented, then the cost will be $100 each.

                                                                                          I live in Orlando, isn't the top Internet attorney in Altamonte Springs? Somebody got the contact info for him? I can meet with the attorneys as needed. I can keep track of everything and make available access to everything to anyone who participates.

                                                                                          Remember history, first the letter then a summons. We cannot afford to wait until we are served a court summons.

                                                                                          Any thoughts, suggestion on this please post. Don't waste your breath with the Acacia should die posts. PLEASE post constructive ideas. WE HAVE TO BAN TOGETHER on this. WE HAVE TO DO SOMETHING NOW and at the same time keep the costs to each individual webmaster as low as possible.
                                                                                          You have my full support choker ;-)

                                                                                          Who the fuck d they think they are!! fuckers!!!




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                                                                                          • Choker
                                                                                            Confirmed User
                                                                                            • Apr 2001
                                                                                            • 9024

                                                                                            #46
                                                                                            OK, so it looks like many are onboard. So first step is to get a list together of attorneys. I think it goes without saying that a attorney that has already dealt with Acacia would be to our advantage. Anyone who has settled with Acacia or even had a attorney involved with Acacia please post thier contact info, what they did, your recomendations etc. Lets get this rolling. We can have a nice list and be ready to start calling attorneys Monday morning.
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                                                                                            • JamesK
                                                                                              hi
                                                                                              • Jun 2002
                                                                                              • 16731

                                                                                              #47
                                                                                              Originally posted by Bitcha
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                                                                                              • broke
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                                                                                                • Aug 2003
                                                                                                • 4501

                                                                                                #48
                                                                                                Originally posted by Choker


                                                                                                If I am being sued in California do I not have to go there? If we get a group lawyer, he can petition to have all the cases of the clients he represents merged into one trial, since they are all the exact same lawsuit. I am no expert but I am almost POSITVE one firm can represent multipe clients in a class action counter suit, if not the suit itself. Is there such a thing as a class action defense?
                                                                                                First of all (as previously pointed out) you wouldn't be sued in CA. You would be sued in FL. Which helps me 'jack shit'.

                                                                                                Yes a group could file a countersuit but that would not stop pending litigation against the individuals.
                                                                                                Perfect Gonzo

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                                                                                                • freeadultcontent
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                                                                                                  • Oct 2002
                                                                                                  • 9976

                                                                                                  #49
                                                                                                  Originally posted by BVF


                                                                                                  they won't sue you in california...they'll sue you in Florida
                                                                                                  Why do you say this? I am pretty damn sure they have choice of venue. If that is the case naturally they will sue you in a location that is bennificial to them and as costly for you as possible. Generally companies will sue you near their head quarters, thus making it cheaper for their legal fees, while you and your attornies ect. need to be present in that location which costs you even more money.


                                                                                                  As for grouping together, is that not what the impai is doing?

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                                                                                                  • Bladewire
                                                                                                    StraightBro
                                                                                                    • Aug 2003
                                                                                                    • 56220

                                                                                                    #50
                                                                                                    Originally posted by Fletch XXX
                                                                                                    where is lawrence walters in all this?

                                                                                                    http://www.lawrencewalters.com

                                                                                                    http://www.lawrencewalters.com/media.php3
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                                                                                                    Some previous posts about this are here:

                                                                                                    http://chat.ynotmasters.com/legal/Ch...22&Site_ID=leg

                                                                                                    http://chat.ynotmasters.com/public/C...98&Site_ID=yno

                                                                                                    If you need more.. there is plenty more where that came from!

                                                                                                    http://www.birthdateverifier.com/

                                                                                                    I created a script a while back that verified age by birth date and received an email from him that I might be infringing on his patent!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
                                                                                                    Last edited by Bladewire; 10-24-2003, 12:19 PM.


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