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What do Americans really think.
Now I heard someone say the other day that Al Queda was gone. I'm just wondering if this is what average Americans think. Opinions? I'm curious :)
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fuck no, that may be what the media wants us to think but there is no way they are gone
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They're not gone. Just regrouping for what we might someday call "October Surprise Part II".
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if they do, then they should pull their heads out of the sand...so to speak...
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Why would you think one persons opinion represents all of america?
Half the people on this board dont vote, and are not involved and their opinions dont count anyway. |
I'm sort of wondering too what people who believe this think is behind the whole Guantanimo Bay thing going on.. with the espionage and whatnot. I'm glad not everyone is letting themselves be lulled into false security :)
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Of course they aren't gone. I'm having them over for dinner tonight.
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Most americans don't think....
They just repeat. |
Americans who buy into the brainwashing media here may believe it, but those who actually read/watch the foreign press aren't that ignorant
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Al Queda can't gone so easy. CIA spent a lot of time to create this organization. Don't forget that Osama bin Laden was very successful agent of CIA. I think he took a training there...
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And the answer to your question is no. Just for starters Osama is still alive and even if he were dead there would still be al Qaeda. |
BTW, RAISE THE FIST is a local org only blocks from me.
Give them a look. THAT is how MANY Americans feel. http://www.raisethefist.com/index1.html may load slow. |
Many Americans have no time to think, they are torn between feeding their families, paying rent or mortgage payement, paying off credit card debt, shopping to pump up the economy, paying for health insurance and watching football.
They let King George think for them and every 4 years about 50% of us might remember to vote for the next president who can do out thinking for us. shame isn't it |
Fletch, I'm just reading into it now...but why was that site's webmaster jailed?
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FREEDOM OF SPEECH.
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Al Quaeda feeds of the American Imperialism ... so it will survive for quite a long time.
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Just recalled Rembo III where magnificent Sly helps good Afghan people (such as Osama and his butchers) to fight against bad Russian guys... He helps force out Russians and lets Al Queda some time to prepare for their terrorist attack on NY.
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You make one very large very wrong assumption. That being that the average American "thinks".
You want to know what the average American is "thinking"? Turn on the TV. The culture industry feeds them 24 hours a day with what to think. Just go to the source and bypass the vapid interpretations of a soulless consumer. |
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And what do Canadians do besides take up space? |
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On Jan 24, 2002 , my home was surrounded and raided by approximately 25 heavily armed FBI and Secret Service agents in one of the governments first attempts to exercise the new US Patriot Act. I was interrogated for several hours while they ransacked my room and they seized a network of computers which I used to run my web site raisethefist.com. They also seized protest signs, and political literature. Their excuse was a protest guide (which I didn't author) that was posted to my site which a small portion contained information on explosives. The FBI had been monitoring the site long before this was ever posted, and long before Sept 11. The "explosives information" on my site (again which I didn't author) doesn't compare to what you an find on any other web sites such as howthingswork.com, Loompanics.com, Bombshock.com, Totse.com, Amazon.com, or the many neo nazi web sites which cover everything from assassinations, explosives, fraud and firearms. It's obvious a web surfer interested in making a bomb or taking part in other extra-illegal activities would not have to rely on Raisethefist.com. So how could the "bomb making information" on raisethefist.com be a concern to authorities? It wasn't a concern, it was simply used an excuse to exercise the new Patriot Act and take down the site. And that's what they did when federal agents spent 5-6 hours interrogating me while they disassembled each computer one by one , mirrored each hard drive, then loaded everything into a big white truck. During this whole process I was told I wasn't going to be arrested, and that I could even leave if I wanted to. Once the agents finished packing everything up, Special Agent John I. Pi, who was conducting the investigation and raid said that I had crossed a line, and as long as I got back on the other side of that line I'd be okay. A week later despite what happened I still continued with my plans to attend the demonstration against the World Economic Forum in NY. As I was waiting for the march to begin, a swarm of NYPD officers rushed straight at me and scooped up about 26 people, one of which was me. We sat on a bus for 7 hours before being taken to Brooklyn Navy Yard Jail. I was there for about 30 hours before I was taken out of my cell and put into a backroom in handcuffs and interrogated once again by the FBI and Secret Service for several hours. They asked me questions such as if I was a terrorist or involved in any terrorist organizations. During the interrogation I noticed more and more agents walking through the room. I was told I wouldn't leave custody unless they searched my car. I said I had nothing to hide and simply wanted to go home. Stressed and aggravated, I signed over my keys. A few minutes later I was driven to the court and released. As I was waiting for someone to pick me up, about 5 FBI agents entered the court and said I was arrested for "distribution of information related to explosives over the internet". One of the agents grabbed my neck and told me to shut the fuck up while I tried to tell one of the legal observers I was being arrested. I was hurried out of the court house into a black SUV where I was driven to a federal building. I was then taken to lower Manhattan MCC maximum security 24 hour lockdown federal jail facility. At my bail hearing the FBI called me a "man on a mission" and said I drove 3,000 miles to carry out my alleged "plot". The judge said I was a "threat to the community" and denied me bail, and I was to be extradited back to California to face my charges. After 11 days I was shackled and taken to an airforce base where federal inmates are boarded onto planes surrounded by guards with M16's and shot guns, like prisoners of war, and flown to a federal jail "hub" in Oklahoma. Once I got there, I learned the next day that the prosecutors decided not to file an indictment. I was released after spending 13 days in custody. When I got back to Los Angeles I put raisethefist.com back up almost immediately. I continued my political organizing within the community, as well as my work with Raise the Fist which developed into a Direct Action Network with chapters setup around the world. 6 months later prosecutors contacted my lawyer and said they found nothing to prosecute me for on my computers, but didn't want to "let me off the hook". They offered me a pre-indictment binding plea agreement which was initially 1 month in jail, and 5 months in a "community corrections facility". I rejected the plea at first, wanting to go to trial until we discovered the case was eligible for a terrorism enhancement, which could have added 20 years to my sentence. I therefore decided to enter a plea. I played months of legal limbo until I finally expected to get sentenced to 4 months in jail and 4 months in a community corrections facility based on the final pre-sentencing report written by the USPO. The judge rejected the 4 months saying what kind of an example would it set for "future revolutionaries" wanting to act in the same manner. He stated he wanted to give me at least 8-10 months but first wanted the opinion of the Justice Department and the Director of the FBI in Washington, DC (Robert Muller). My sentencing was rescheduled several times until August 4th. I was convicted for felony; distribution of information related to explosives with intent, and sentenced to 1 year in federal prison with 3 years supervised release. Distribution of information related to explosives is not illegal.. What's illegal is the INTENT part. They have to prove you have intent to use the information to cause further crime of violence .. and how do they prove intent? I think Bush made it clear when he said "you're either with me or against me". Remember, fascism and a police state doesn't come all at once, it comes piece by piece. How far will we allow it go until we are all locked up in concentration camps. If we don't take matters into our own hands and do something about this now, then we are already prisoners of war. Raisethefist.com is not shutting down, and the RTF Direct Action Network will continue to grow and remain active. A 1 year sentence is not the end of this. It's just the begining. |
The average opinion of Americans:
My girls name is Senora I tell you friends I adore her And when she dances o' brother She's a hurricane in all types of weather Jump in the line, rock your body in time. OK, I believe you. Shake shake shake Senora, shake your body line. Shake shake shake Senora, shake it all the time. |
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http://www.gofuckyourself.com/showth...hreadid=180576 BTW, why does Bush REPEAT over and over the same things .... ??? Answer: he figured it out.... |
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Talk about scary. Voice your opinion and get locked up and have your home raided and all hard drives mirrored and searched by the feds. |
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Didn't the USA censored the broadcast of the US prisonners of war???? WE didn't... in fact no other countries did... You normally post interesting stuff, but this time you fell at the bottom of the bucket: desesperation???? BTW, I rarely post my " local " news.... |
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When americans show what they think the white supremisits and the rest of the ALLOWED HATE GROUPS come after you.
http://italy.indymedia.org/news/2003/09/386907.php Death Threats for a website. |
'Sherman is a non-violent offender. He is only twenty years of age and has been evaluated by a court-appointed psychologist as being completely non-violent and idealistic. A county detention facility is not the place for a non-violent offender who is in danger of being killed for his color and beliefs.'
'THIS IS ONE OF THE POSTS THREATENING HIS LIFE: One of the highlights of my days are coming to this site and seeing the post about Sherman Austin's sentence. Now he's trapped, ready for the murdering by his inmates, in which many of my colleagues are unfortunatly participating in. One more of your "revolutionaries" has been taken from you all. That is a sign of your weakness. My colleagues are there because they showed no weakness. I read that in Texas, a ****** approached one of my fellow party members, threatening him, and when the first punch was thrown the pigs arrived, taking my fellow party member away for fighting. All though he didn't through the punch, he was still arrested. What I find is funny is two days later the ******s were found shot to death in their homes, along with their ****** families, shows what ******s are. Dumb. Thinking they could get away. But the man arrested is still there, waiting for some black pride or "anarchist" to come along his path, possibly the same prison as little ol' sherman. Good Luck old pal. It's also quite sad I have to put Austin's name up to be considered relevant. FUCK YOU N*****S. Hail Hitler Himmler ' |
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What, do you just think all we have in the US is FOX and CNN? Wow. Amazing. Did you know we even have very liberal non-profit news stations here in the US? Yeah, somehow the world's leader in the information age only has CNN and FOX. Simple boy. |
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How can you know what I have access to??? Do you have access to French News, English News, USA news.... I have, aside from my LOCAL news, access to all DTV, along with the web... We have both arab stations here ( Al-Jezera, which was banned in the US and now banned in an Arab country : Iraq). If you have nothing intelligent to say, SHUT UP. 69% of americans beleive that Saddam is "behind" 9/11 ... THEY REPEAT ... or you are telling me that they actually used their brain and manage to think that??? :321GFY |
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Anyway, got a link for this stat? |
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they love hot dogs
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