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Some fucker is trying to sue me for spamming...
I didnt spam this fool... but he is threatening small claims court if he doesnt receive $500 within 10 days
its about a pyramid scheme i was involved with, and I have emailed the dude who is at the #1 spot (I am at the #4 spot) and told him to take me off of this pyramid list... anybody got any ideaon what I should do? I did not spam this guy, my name just happened to be on the list... this is my response to this guy "Dear Mr. ******, Today I received a letter from you regarding some Spam/UCE that you received. I did not send you this email. Yes, I am a part of this list, however, the only person on the list who should be punished is the person in the #1 spot, **** *****. I have not been actively involved in this program within the last 12 months. When I WAS involved, I posted messages to my friends who did not have a job, and also my friends on message boards. I NEVER ONCE sent any kind of Spam/UCE (solicited or unsolicited, opt-in or opt-out) to you, or to anyone else for that matter. I stopped my involvement in this program several months ago when the FTC contacted me and told me that being involved in this Pyramid Scheme was illegal, so I stopped my involvement. I tried my hardest to find out who was at the #1 spot so I could get my name off of this list and found it hard to get in touch with them. I sent an email but never got any response, so I figured my name was off of this list. The only reason I joined in the first place was because the website I saw said it was very legal and a very legit business. When I found out otherwise, I stopped my involvement. I did not send that spam/UCE email you received, so you will not be receiving $500 from me Thank you, *** ******" |
What did he want $500 for? For the "Pain & Suffering" he endured while hitting the delete button?
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Yeah... fuck it.
Tell him "I'll see you in court BEYATCH. Expect a countersuit for harrassment of my Shizzle." Better yet, just have a lawyer write a "scary lawyer letter" telling him to fuck off. Works like a charm. |
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Hehe. You joined a pyramid scheme. I thought only high school kids fell for those things.
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It's a scam!!
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I want $ 500.00 because I had to read this thread... :Graucho
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it sounds more like extortion to take $500 from you, a crime
in itself. tell him to :321GFY |
Its not extortion, a lot of states have laws saying you get X amount per illegal spam message you receive. He is an idiot and the response you wrote to him was way too long, it should have been 2 words: Fuck Off.
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I ones got a spam from a online video store... I replied: SHUT THE FUCK UP AND GIVE ME A FREE VID OR I'LL SUE YOU! And I got one :thumbsup
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I bet he emailed everyone on the list, to see who would fall for it
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tell him you are starting to get lots of cash in the mail from the email you sent and you dont mind sending him the money now, trust me he will start spamming and get shit then tell him suck dick.
Post his email here |
funny.
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the guy lives in maryland, these are the spam laws in maryland...
MARYLAND COMMERCIAL LAW CODE TITLE 14. MISCELLANEOUS CONSUMER PROTECTION PROVISIONS SUBTITLE 30. COMMERCIAL ELECTRONIC MAIL (Enacted in 2002) § 14-3001. (a) In this subtitle the following words have the meanings indicated. (b) (1) "Commercial electronic mail" means electronic mail that advertises real property, goods, or services for sale or lease. (2) "Commercial electronic mail" does not include electronic mail to which an interactive computer service provider has attached an advertisement in exchange for free use of an electronic mail account. (c) (1) "Interactive computer service provider" means an information service, system, or access software provider that provides or enables computer access by multiple users to a computer service. (2) "Interactive computer service provider" includes a service or system that provides access to the internet and systems operated or services offered by a library or educational institution. § 14-3002. (a) This section does not apply to an interactive computer service provider or a telecommunication utility to the extent that the interactive computer service provider or the telecommunication utility merely handles, retransmits, or carries a transmission of commercial electronic mail. (b) A person may not initiate the transmission, conspire with another person to initiate the transmission, or assist in the transmission of commercial electronic mail that: (1) is from a computer in the state or is sent to an electronic mail address that the sender knows or should have known is held by a resident of the state; and (2) (i) uses a third party's internet domain name or electronic mail address without the permission of the third party; (ii) contains false or misleading information about the origin or the transmission path of the commercial electronic mail; or (iii) contains false or misleading information in the subject line that has the capacity, tendency, or effect of deceiving the recipient. (c) a person is presumed to know that the intended recipient of commercial electronic mail is a resident of the state if the information is available on request from the registrant of the internet domain name contained in the recipient's electronic mail address. (d) an interactive computer service provider: (1) may block the receipt or transmission through its interactive computer service of commercial electronic mail that it reasonably believes is or will be sent in apparent violation of this section; and (2) may not be held liable for an action under item (1) of this subsection that is voluntarily taken in good faith. § 14-3003. A person who violates this subtitle is liable for reasonable attorney's fees and for damages: (1) to the recipient of commercial electronic mail, in an amount equal to the greater of $500 or the recipient's actual damages; (2) to the third party without whose permission the third party's internet domain name or electronic mail address was used, in an amount equal to the greater of $500 or the third party's actual damages; and (3) to an interactive computer service provider, in an amount equal to the greater of $1,000 or the interactive computer service provider's actual damages. |
Now you know that this emails belongs to someone enought stupid to read spam messages.
The solution is quite obvious... sell it to a major spammer. If you think it, both you and the "spammed" stupid win. You win the $ the spammer will give you for his email, and he wins another possible $500. The other solution is to send him about 10k mails with "Fuck you" text and ONE only mail with "Sorry I hit the send email button 10k times by mistake", so legally you will not be spamming him at all :1orglaugh |
"(b) A person may not initiate the transmission, conspire with another person to initiate the transmission, or assist in the transmission of commercial electronic mail that: "
conspiring = what? I asked this dude to take me off the pyramid list, and he did not so was I really conspiring? also, I did make some money with this program... and i paid nothing to get in... a spammer hooked me up |
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i will post his email once I get a response from my previous one
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he sent you an email saying he was going to sue you? and you're considering paying him? what's your email addy?:winkwink:
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he sent me a real mail letter, very proffessionally done... i have not considered paying him, im just trying to find out the facts
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pyramid scheme.. did you actualy make any money from that? I always figured they were bullshit
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yes i did, in fact, i was still getting money in the mail 6-12 months after I stopped sending
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Mr. ******,
Thank you for your response. MaryCLE, LLC is intrigued by the word "conspire" in the Maryland law. MaryCLE believes that a Maryland court would find that a participant in a pyramid scheme would be enough of a "conspiracy" to find in it's favor. To conspire is "To join or act together; combine." Source: Webster's Revised Unabridged Dictionary, © 1996, 1998 MICRA, Inc. Certainly, the e-mail was sent in order to provide financial gain for you, the sender, and the other three individuals on the list. You and the other four people mentioned are "joined" in your participation in a program that you are aware employs UCE as a means to attract business. The instructions also state that addresses are to be moved up or down into the various spots on the list. That you name is present suggests that your address was in "Spot #1" at some point, further suggesting that you had some role in leading to the e-mail received by MaryCLE, LLC. Secondly, sending one e-mail to the individual in the "#1 Spot" seems questionable as your best efforts to get in touch with that individual, especially when his name and address is plainly apparent from e-mails such as the one enclosed in my previous letter to you. Indeed, this individual is difficult to get in touch with because he promotes a business that is illegal in design and illegal in the means via which it is promoted. Finally, these types of businesses are commonly known to be illegal, wholly dishonest, or both. The adage "Ignorance is no excuse," comes to mind. That you relied upon a website without considering the ramifications of your actions or checking the various laws governing such programs before participating does little to dissuade MaryCLE of your involvement. You have every right to ignore the previous demand letter. However, if you choose not to settle, MaryCLE has the right to bring suit along with it's ISP to collect damages under the Maryland Code, Commercial Law, § 14-3002. If you are found liable, your liability will likely not be less than $1,500. I hope that you will reconsider your current stance. MaryCLE will continue to hold open it's offer of $500 for full settlement. However, in the interest of negotiation, MaryCLE will also promise to absolve you of all further actions that specifically relate to this pyramid scheme. That is, if MaryCLE receives further e-mails with your address in the same general format relating to the same pyramid scheme, you will not be liable to MaryCLE, LLC. If you choose to do this, you may follow the instructions in the previous letter. For your convenience, I have enclosed a copy of that letter for you again. Please respond no later than May 7th, 2003. A hard copy of this e-mail has been sent via postal mail to: (my address) Thank you for your prompt attention to this matter. Regards, Eric Menhart MaryCLE, LLC |
my 2nd response:
Mr. *****, I wanted no part in this program after I found out what it was all about. Enclosed is the email I sent to the person at the number 1 spot, when I decided to remove my involvement with the program. I received no more letters from customers, so I assumed that my name had been officially removed, which is why I felt no need for further action. Once this email was sent, the statement that I was "joined" with these individuals becomes null and void. So here is my current stance: not only did I not send this email to you, but also did not conspire to send any emails to you. There is no reason you should be coming after me because I am not the one who sent you the email. Obviously I did all that I could to get off of this list, and yet you are still threatening me. Please reconsider, and understand that I officially wanted no part of this on january 22, 2003 at 2:15 pm, when my email was sent. You said, "Secondly, sending one e-mail to the individual in the "#1 Spot" seems questionable as your best efforts to get in touch with that individual, especially when his name and address is plainly apparent from e-mails such as the one enclosed in my previous letter to you. Indeed, this individual is difficult to get in touch with because he promotes a business that is illegal in design and illegal in the means via which it is promoted." There is no way I could have seen the emails that the person in the "#1 Spot" was sending, unless he targetted me with his bulk emails. I was lucky to even get his e-mail address, and the way I did that was to ask one of the people what the person at the "#1 Spot"'s email was. I sent the email and stopped receiving any kind of mail regarding this program until now. Another possibility is that the person at the "#2 spot" had multiple people sign up under him. That would mean that since I got no letters in the mail, I would have no possible way of knowing that my name was still being passed around the internet. Please understand that I am the victim here, and committed no crime. The only reason that I even joined the program is to help make extra money on the side for my family, because my father was diagnosed with Lou Gherig's disease and I knew my family was soon to be left with very little income when he passed away. Please understand that I too am a human being, and deserve to be treated like one. Like I said above, I had no involvement with the sending of this email. You know who you should be going after. Now, go after him. thank you ******* *** |
i hope they sue you,we'll have some interesting threads to read.
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:321GFY
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can i sue him for sending me unsolicited mail? I did not ask for him to send me any mail!
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Those anti spammers are getting funnier everyday.
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pyramid scheme,, lol
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hey, it worked
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By your own admission, you were turned on to this pyramid scheme by a spammer... and yet you claim to not have known that there was anything illegal about it? Just suck it up and pay the $500 and have him shut up... live and learn. Or, let him sue you...
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sue him back.
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you better send him his money or you're going to jail.
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AmyWay strikes again
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Some people do this for a living.
Ask him if he will settle for 100.00. :glugglug |
If i had a nickel for everyone that threaten to sue me,, i'd be broke
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