why do i fail ??? HELP !!!
 

Hi Guys

I Don t know why do i fail each time i want to buy traffic and always it does not convert........

I Believe that most traffic comes from shitty websites or Sources !
I am totally confused.

To be Honest, i am making enough with facebook on dating but i just want to make double on WEBCAMS as i though that with buying traffic would get me some sales but it does not.

i only work on german traffic, Anyone can Helps or suggest me new ideas?!

Let me give you some free advice.

Up until 2007/2008 I had a TON of traffic (about 1.2 million uniques a day). And it was all REAL traffic from bookmarkers.
I NEVER sold the traffic.

Why? Because I could make so much money on that traffic that it would have been crazy to sell it. I did sell a few (9 to be exact) text links. But other than that...we kept it for ourselves because it was great traffic and very lucrative.

The moral of my story is: If the traffic has any real value...they wouldn't be selling it to begin with.

The traffic brokers and their hired monkeys will tell you I'm full of shit and give you a bunch of double-talk about how "Some people are much better at monetizing traffic" than they are so they sell it.

So what they are telling you is...they are too incompetent to work the traffic that they have.
But the TRUTH is...the traffic that they have is shit.

My free advice is: Don't buy traffic. The only way you're gonna make money in this game is to learn your craft. SEO, how to build a website, how to get search engine traffic and KEEP them by offering them things of interest. And then you use that site to make your sales to the sites you are pushing.

I've been successful a long time doing this. And that's my free advice. Good luck to you in the future.

I agree with Robbie here. Maybe buying traffic works for some, but it has never worked for me and has almost always been a waste of money. I'm a bit different than sign up sales as we do live sales so I'm not sure I can be a good source of info.

We use blogging as much to our advantage as we can. We will start to implement affiliate promo's in our content soon and find out how it converts.

Unfortunately you just have to take the time it takes to understand how to get as much organic traffic as you can.

you are trying to compete with people and companies who have huge budgets and experience. of course you cant just start a campaign and make it work. you'd have to spend 5-10k to figure it out and even then, its not too likely you'd be able to compete in cams

Redouble your efforts on FB - If you have saturated the German traffic research another market...

People do make money from broker traffic - However, it's not just about throwing hits at a site - It's a skill and some of the tactics needed are 'questionable'.....

Never bought traffic, never will. Some good advice in this thread.

Listen to this man. I have met Robbie and he is one of the few in this Biz who is not full of poo poo. :)

I would add one VERY important distinction to Robbie's words of wisdom: there is a HUGE difference between buying traffic and buying advertising. If you buy 'direct ads' from sites in your niche or whose traffic you trust then it's great. But just buying traffic based on geo, niches, ages, etc is a waste of time and money if you are not experienced. And, even then, the margins are so tight that any slippage and you're fucked. It's a rough game and I also do not recommend it.

what robbie said

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Seriously though, Robbie is 100% correct... :2 cents:

I agree 100%

Robbie, just interesting, what do you think about traffic from social networks? My opinion that traffic from social networks mostly not quality and people don't want to spend their money if you're working for instance on paypersale basis

work harder :2 cents:

bought traffic does bring profits and it will bring if you are not promoting aff programs. Take a look at huge tube sites: they are buying traffic all the time large amount of traffic.

:thumbsup

:2 cents::2 cents:

hit the hail on the head Robbie :thumbsup:thumbsup:thumbsup

times i bought traffic was to feed my CJ and TGP sites

This is good advice, although there were number of people who bought and profited from it. At least that is what they posted here.
Of course those people were experts, not a newbies. For newbies it is 100% NO NO.

Most of those people were "re-purposing" that traffic in questionable ways to make money. Not making sales to any sites. :)

Great point.

what do you steal?

I agree with Robbie, but I would add if you buy traffic for traffic trades, it could be beneficial .:thumbsup

True, but the people you traded traffic with wouldn't appreciate that very much...especially when they check their Google analytics and see a 100% bounce rate. lol

Of course people doing that are usually trading traffic with other sites doing it too. So you would end up with a bunch of sites sending each other nothing. :)

thx a million but sadly i am not good at creating website and Seo ....etc
but i wonder why trafficJunky/Ero-advertise/Exoclick and many others are making successful business by selling traffic?
i brought thier traffic and i couldn t make a penny, only brought european traffic and did not convert either into sale or lead. that is why i got a negative point of view regarding traffic seller.

by the way best deal i get ever is 12usd per PPL From a company whom i worked for 4 years but unfortuntely as social media become too aggressive, i am not able to play good enough as before. would appreacited if you message me in pm and send me some useful sites or links, i believe it s time to learn new tactic and methods.

Thank You always

Special thx to Robbie.

thx a million but sadly i am not good at creating website and Seo ....etc
but i wonder why trafficJunky/Ero-advertise/Exoclick and many others are making successful business by selling traffic?
i brought thier traffic and i couldn t make a penny, only brought european traffic and did not convert either into sale or lead. that is why i got a negative point of view regarding traffic seller.

by the way best deal i get ever is 12usd per PPL From a company whom i worked for 4 years but unfortuntely as social media become too aggressive, i am not able to play good enough as before. would appreacited if you message me in pm and send me some useful sites or links, i believe it s time to learn new tactic and methods.

Thank You always

media buying is a hard game to play

Nice old school logic that still works.

+1 :) :) :)

If you had good traffic, would you sell it to someone else?

This is very true. If the traffic is so valuable, why would they be selling it? Why wouldn't you just send it someplace to make you money?

The only thing I use purchased traffic for is to test the load on a site or to jump start traffic to a site.

As othere said, if the traffic was worth anything they would not be selling it to begin with.

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i do understand you guys but why mediabuy companies are making huge Success?

nowadays it s really difficulte to get any kinda of traffic.
buying traffic looks great option but as robbie recommand, Don t make mistake twice.

anyone have tips or suggestion how to get european traffic?
please pm. i have excelllent deal with german company but i need to push alot of traffic inculde quality traffic to get this deal. willing to share all info and much more if anyone want to cooperate.

In certain parts of mainstream this is just a lazy way for social media managers and ad agencies to look busy and effective, with PPTs about total impressions, etc.

while i been affilate with many n eetworks, managed always recommanded mediabuy but never reveal any close information expect one who explained that mediabuy for a company is not like for personal use.
he/she said, we collect data from this traffic and reuse it in another way which make it profitable, in all cases they are not losing money expect if traffic is fake or bot. from my experiences i couldn t make it and nowdays getting traffic is more and more complicated....

are they any alternative sources to get some good traffic?

What if I told you there's a shit ton of money to be made by not owning tubes, just using them......

If I buy a billion hits per hour, I might get a conversion or two. 1 Rebill if I'm really lucky.


I'm sure there are some few reliable traffic sellers
But pretty sure most "cold" shit traffic selling sites are just using recycled proxies, bots and poor parts of the world where credit cards don't exist. Maybe from a bunch of yurts with wifi in Mongolia.

Hallo
 

Ur member since 2001 so i guess U richa and Obivously expert on those stuff.

we are discussing with brought traffic from biggest compaines are always useless?

This is not really true. The reason people sell their traffic is because a traffic network can make a lot more money for your traffic than you will trying to monetize it yourself.
This is because they send for example a guy on a mobile in Egypt to an Egypt mobile carrier offer and a guy on a desktop in Japan to a Japanese live cam offer etc.
No matter how valuable your traffic is, if you want the maximum income selling it will always make more than trying to monetize it yourself. You can't compete with a network that has 100s of advertisers wanting to target specific GEOs, devices, etc.

Buying traffic is very hard. What kind of products are you selling?
Just targeting European traffic doesn't mean it will convert.
To do it properly you need to spend $1,000s or $10,000s in testing to see what works, like what GEOs work, which ads, what niche, what time of the day, what devices. Then when you have enough data you *might* find something that is profitable, and you expand on that. You need a big budget and a lot of time and knowledge to make it work.

Hi Konda !!!
actually i need German traffic for cams and dating and this require a direct buy from Deutsch adult site owner which works only but buying traffic has been always unpleasant experiences as most comment here, traffic vendor are just not good.

i Don t have big budeget to test it on traffic buddy.
i remember there was a forum where afew guys where spying of best performance ads in biggest tube channels, that was a paid forum which belong to someone who s been working in juicyads, i will relook over email and i will attempte find it again. any alternative methods or sources would be appreacited.

thank you Konda

This is the bullshit traffic sellers throw at you. No offense. LOL I understand the point, and for a very few experienced big budget companies I would agree. But we're talking big numbers here with very tight margins. So it's a risky game at best.

It also depends what you are trying to sell. Cams? Highly competitive. The best traffic costs the most. Dating? Also competitive but also highly hit-or-miss. Trust your Sponsor on this one. Paysites? Forget about it. Dick pills? Probably the best in terms of "products" but again, trust your Sponsor and keep an eye on longevity (how long the company has been around or will be around).

Traffic networks are better than buying blind traffic but you better know your shit before you play that game. LOL