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  • mikeworks
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    • Apr 2010
    • 272
    #1

    News World War 3 soon?

    Putin reminding the west about his nuclear weapons and bizarre explanations for troops found in Ukraine and 'computer game images' of their weapons.

    If the EU/US allow him to take over Ukraine, where will he stop?
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    • aka123
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      • Jul 2014
      • 4450
      #2
      Originally posted by mikeworks
      Putin reminding the west about his nuclear weapons and bizarre explanations for troops found in Ukraine and 'computer game images' of their weapons.

      If the EU/US allow him to take over Ukraine, where will he stop?
      Hard to say what Putin wants, but some more lebensraum, that's for sure. Even with current conquest he will be reminded as a man who made Russia bigger.. land wise I mean and military wise too..

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        • oppoten
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          • Nov 2007
          • 4791
          #3
          He isn't Hitler, or even Stalin.

          I think he'll be satisfied to be remembered as one of the most important Russian leaders.

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            • adultchatpay
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              • Dec 2008
              • 8775
              #4
              It wont happen.

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                • CDSmith
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                  • May 2001
                  • 51460
                  #5
                  I suspect that "what Putin wants" ultimately is to be the guy who reunites the old USSR.

                  He's like the Russian version of The Blues Brothers. How do you say "We're getting the band back together" in Russian? :D


                  Fact is, and thankfully so, one would pretty much have to be the biggest brain-dead idiot in all of human history to go pushing the "send" button of a nuclear arsenal. It's obviously been proven in movie after movie that "Global Thermonuclear War" is a no-win scenario.

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                    • aka123
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                      #6
                      Originally posted by oppoten
                      He isn't Hitler, or even Stalin.

                      I think he'll be satisfied to be remembered as one of the most important Russian leaders.
                      Like Stalin? The leader during the great patriotic war for motherland.
                      Last edited by aka123; 08-29-2014, 02:35 PM.

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                        • brassmonkey
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                          #7
                          Originally posted by mikeworks
                          Putin reminding the west about his nuclear weapons and bizarre explanations for troops found in Ukraine and 'computer game images' of their weapons.

                          If the EU/US allow him to take over Ukraine, where will he stop?
                          united states will not fight russia because of china.
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                            • MiamiBoyz
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                              • Oct 2012
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                              #8
                              The man is a turd with legs. He will be remembered as a turd with legs who set his country back 200 years and made them look like fools. He is nothing and will be forgotten.

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                                • Rochard
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                                  • Dec 2001
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                                  #9
                                  He reminded us that he has nuclear weapons? Really? What's he going to do - Nuke Ukraine?
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                                    • aka123
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                                      • Jul 2014
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                                      #10
                                      Originally posted by Rochard
                                      He reminded us that he has nuclear weapons? Really? What's he going to do - Nuke Ukraine?
                                      More like nuke US if it intervenes, or anyone else. He reminded that they are sovereign country (to mess in other countries).
                                      Last edited by aka123; 08-29-2014, 03:04 PM.

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                                        • Mutt
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                                          • Sep 2002
                                          • 34431
                                          #11
                                          That's pretty scary, I lived through much of the Cold War and other than the Cuban Missile Crisis which was before my time I don't remember a Soviet premier or American president publicly imply that it would use its' nukes against one another.
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                                            • CDSmith
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                                              #12
                                              Originally posted by aka123
                                              More like nuke US if it intervenes, or anyone else. He reminded that they are sovereign country (to mess in other countries).
                                              In other words things only a moron would say.
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                                                • wehateporn
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                                                  #13
                                                  It's coming, but it's only because The West keep prodding Putin, leave him be, but there are powerful people who have a lot to gain by shuffling the pack with another World War.

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                                                    • Mutt
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                                                      • Sep 2002
                                                      • 34431
                                                      #14
                                                      Originally posted by wehateporn
                                                      It's coming, but it's only because The West keep prodding Putin, leave him be, but there are powerful people who have a lot to gain by shuffling the pack with another World War.
                                                      Alright, when he invades the UK the rest of the world should just leave him be.

                                                      There are no powerful people who would be untouched by nuclear World War - the rich and powerful have family including children living in major Western cities, NYC, LA, London, Paris, Boston etc
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                                                        • WDF
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                                                          • Jan 2013
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                                                          #15


                                                          Hey Vlad did you forget you are not the only country with Nukes.
                                                          Please HELP

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                                                            • aka123
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                                                              #16
                                                              Originally posted by wehateporn
                                                              It's coming, but it's only because The West keep prodding Putin, leave him be, but there are powerful people who have a lot to gain by shuffling the pack with another World War.
                                                              West keeps prodding Putin? How in fuck can he left be if he attacks into another country? At least the another country has to do something. You are basically saying that Putin is some passive party and others "prod" him to irritate him or something like that.

                                                              Putin is prodding all over Europe right now with it's airforces. When bear bites someone's ass, you don't just yel to that guy "Hey, leave that bear alone!". Well, you just did yel like that.

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                                                                • wehateporn
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                                                                  #17
                                                                  Originally posted by Mutt
                                                                  Alright, when he invades the UK the rest of the world should just leave him be.
                                                                  He doesn't want NATO on his doorstep in the Ukraine, it has to remain a buffer-zone, but the Western NGO's kicked it all off there and organized a coup, Putin is only doing what anyone would do, taking care of the interests of his nation.

                                                                  Originally posted by Mutt
                                                                  There are no powerful people who would be untouched by nuclear World War - the rich and powerful have family including children living in major Western cities, NYC, LA, London, Paris, Boston etc
                                                                  Depends on the scale of the nuclear war, a few nukes is all they need to bring about the major changes they are looking for in the world.

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                                                                    • aka123
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                                                                      #18
                                                                      Originally posted by wehateporn
                                                                      He doesn't want NATO on his doorstep in the Ukraine, it has to remain a buffer-zone, but the Western NGO's kicked it all off there and organized a coup, Putin is only doing what anyone would do, taking care of the interests of his nation.
                                                                      Have you considered that Putin's nation is not the only nation involved? What about every fucking other nation, most notably Ukraine? What about their interests?

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                                                                        • WDF
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                                                                          #19
                                                                          Why does everyone on the eastern side of this think there would not be retaliation in the form of western nukes?

                                                                          Go ahead push the button, it will not end there.
                                                                          Please HELP

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                                                                            • wehateporn
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                                                                              #20
                                                                              Originally posted by aka123
                                                                              Have you considered that Putin's nation is not the only nation involved? What about every fucking other nation, most notably Ukraine? What about their interests?
                                                                              They are always going to be a buffer country, they'll either get fucked by the West or fucked less by the East. Unless they can relocate themselves next to Iceland that's not going to change.

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                                                                                • Mutt
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                                                                                  • Sep 2002
                                                                                  • 34431
                                                                                  #21
                                                                                  Originally posted by wehateporn
                                                                                  He doesn't want NATO on his doorstep in the Ukraine, it has to remain a buffer-zone, but the Western NGO's kicked it all off there and organized a coup, Putin is only doing what anyone would do, taking care of the interests of his nation.



                                                                                  Depends on the scale of the nuclear war, a few nukes is all they need to bring about the major changes they are looking for in the world.
                                                                                  You're a nutbag. Russia is a HUGE country. What about Poland who the fucking Russians and Nazis carved up in a secret deal? Do you think Poland doesn't need a buffer zone from the animals who took half their country and pulled the Iron Curtain down on them? And the Baltic states?

                                                                                  Fuck off idiot.
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                                                                                    • woj
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                                                                                      #22
                                                                                      I doubt Russia would be that stupid...

                                                                                      there are 100s (possibly 1000s) nukes all over Europe + 1000s more in the US deliverable via intercontinental missiles.... + 100s more (possibly 1000s) on US, UK, French, etc submarines + surface ships...

                                                                                      he can threaten all he wants, but I doubt he is stupid enough to use nukes...
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                                                                                        • Captain Kawaii
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                                                                                          • Oct 2007
                                                                                          • 6748
                                                                                          #23
                                                                                          Originally posted by brassmonkey
                                                                                          united states will not fight russia because of china.
                                                                                          That's probably true. Putin is coming here in a couple of months. I hope I can get him to sign my cock.

                                                                                          On a lighter note it's interesting to see the courtship dance between China, Russia and Japan at the moment.

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                                                                                            • Barry-xlovecam
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                                                                                              • Jun 2010
                                                                                              • 18083
                                                                                              #24
                                                                                              GIMMIE BACK !!!

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                                                                                                • Matt 26z
                                                                                                  So Fucking Banned
                                                                                                  • Apr 2002
                                                                                                  • 18481
                                                                                                  #25
                                                                                                  Originally posted by MiamiBoyz
                                                                                                  He will be remembered as a turd with legs who set his country back 200 years and made them look like fools. He is nothing and will be forgotten.
                                                                                                  You are just repeating western propaganda. Putin is one of the greatest leaders of our time. He has done great things for Russia's economy and enjoys approval ratings that US presidents can't reach.

                                                                                                  The same was true for Hitler prior to WW2, but even more so. Pre-WW2 Hitler is arguably the greatest head of state this world has ever seen. Germany was in the dumps and the Nazi party turned it around very quickly and they became #1 in the world. It was one of the most stunning economic turnarounds ever. The events around WW2 have just made it extremely taboo to shed Hitler in any positive light, so nobody does.

                                                                                                  The thing to watch out for is when a leader does great things, gains the overwhelming backing of his people and thus feels emboldened to take risks. He will be president of Russia until 2018. I do suspect that he will make a bold move of some kind before then.

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                                                                                                    • Barry-xlovecam
                                                                                                      It's 42
                                                                                                      • Jun 2010
                                                                                                      • 18083
                                                                                                      #26
                                                                                                      From the PPP via RT ...

                                                                                                      NATO planning rapid-deployment force of 10,000 troops to counter Russia ? report

                                                                                                      http://rt.com/news/183828-nato-rapid-deployment-force/

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                                                                                                        • Barry-xlovecam
                                                                                                          It's 42
                                                                                                          • Jun 2010
                                                                                                          • 18083
                                                                                                          #27

                                                                                                          More justifications from Pravda ...

                                                                                                          Putin addresses Novorossiya militia with special message

                                                                                                          I call on the militia groups to open a humanitarian corridor for Ukrainian service members who have been surrounded, so as to avoid any needless loss of life, giving them the opportunity to leave the combat area unimpeded and reunite with their families, to return them to their mothers, wives and children, and to quickly provide medical assistance to those who were injured in the course of the military operation.
                                                                                                          http://english.pravda.ru/russia/krem...iya_militia-0/

                                                                                                          https://www.google.com/search?q=Novorossiya

                                                                                                          A far more serious person, the dissident Russian analyst Andrei Piontkovsky, has recently published an article arguing, along lines that echo Zhirinovsky?s threats, that Putin really is weighing the possibility of limited nuclear strikes?perhaps against one of the Baltic capitals, perhaps a Polish city?to prove that NATO is a hollow, meaningless entity that won?t dare strike back for fear of a greater catastrophe. Indeed, in military exercises in 2009 and 2013, the Russian army openly ?practiced? a nuclear attack on Warsaw.

                                                                                                          Is all of this nothing more than the raving of lunatics? Maybe. ...

                                                                                                          http://www.slate.com/articles/news_a..._war_with.html
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                                                                                                          Cuban Missile Crisis rematch?

                                                                                                          Twice in my lifetime is 2 times too many ...

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                                                                                                            • Mutt
                                                                                                              Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                                                                              • Sep 2002
                                                                                                              • 34431
                                                                                                              #28
                                                                                                              Originally posted by Matt 26z
                                                                                                              You are just repeating western propaganda. Putin is one of the greatest leaders of our time. He has done great things for Russia's economy and enjoys approval ratings that US presidents can't reach.

                                                                                                              The same was true for Hitler prior to WW2, but even more so. Pre-WW2 Hitler is arguably the greatest head of state this world has ever seen. Germany was in the dumps and the Nazi party turned it around very quickly and they became #1 in the world. It was one of the most stunning economic turnarounds ever. The events around WW2 have just made it extremely taboo to shed Hitler in any positive light, so nobody does.

                                                                                                              The thing to watch out for is when a leader does great things, gains the overwhelming backing of his people and thus feels emboldened to take risks. He will be president of Russia until 2018. I do suspect that he will make a bold move of some kind before then.

                                                                                                              Hitler was A FUCKING DICTATOR - he put everybody to work or they went to a concentration camp. His brilliant economic plan was to turn Germany's economy into a war economy while hiding it from the rest of the world as Germany was forbidden to build up its military by the Treaty of Versailles, by creating imaginary money called MEFO bills/bonds, spending money Germany didn't have. If he hadn't started WWII the economic genius would have bankrupted the country.

                                                                                                              The ironic thing with idiots like you and wehateporn is Hitler, Putin, Stalin would throw your kind in prison or a concentration camp or worse.
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                                                                                                                • bronco67
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                                                                                                                  • Dec 2006
                                                                                                                  • 29026
                                                                                                                  #29
                                                                                                                  Putin is a fucking idiot. Who else would invade a country and hope no one notices? It's classic Russian behavior to assume that everyone is dumb enough to not see through your silly games, especially when it's troops and artillery. Military genius.
                                                                                                                  Last edited by bronco67; 08-29-2014, 07:03 PM.

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                                                                                                                    • Barry-xlovecam
                                                                                                                      It's 42
                                                                                                                      • Jun 2010
                                                                                                                      • 18083
                                                                                                                      #30
                                                                                                                      Mark of the Beast -- 666

                                                                                                                      True Mark of the Beast
                                                                                                                      http://english.pravda.ru/opinion/col...-mark_beast-0/

                                                                                                                      Ukraine Deal with the Devil: The Chevron Deal. In early November 2013 president of Ukraine Viktor Yanukovich signed a death deal with Chevron for shale exploration in his country. Later that month, Yanukovich rejected the EU trade agreement and accepted Russian president Putin's offer instead. Had they been allowed to accept it Kiev would be paying gas for half price and Russia would be buying billions of government bonds that would help the Ukraine economy. Yanukovich signed his death warrant on that Chevron contract.

                                                                                                                      Yanukovich acceptance of Russia's offer was seen as a betrayal to the EU and US. Washington's Chicago politics made him an offer he could not refuse and now the people of the Ukraine are paying for it. Obama, Biden, Kerry, Nuland, McCain and others can take their greed to the grave and wait for Judgment Day. President Putin's successful economic record in Russia, US propaganda notwithstanding, is known to the world as the BRICS and Russia become more powerful overcoming western tyranny and bringing peace through mutual economic benefits rather than deals backed by military intervention.

                                                                                                                      Unfortunately, the Beast is currently active in Ukraine where priests are assaulted or killed. The puppet government backed by Obama wants genocide in SE Ukraine for shale gas exploration. Already, fracking has started in Slavyansk. The Beast yells, "Kill Everyone! Start Fracking!" Money is power and it hopes to feed its children with it while stopping Russian expansion of cheaper gas to Europe. Its Father of lies has a powerful propaganda machine in the US. The Beast does not want people to know the truth about Russia. Why?

                                                                                                                      Because where Russia goes Christ will be there ...
                                                                                                                      Talk about whipping up religious fervor -- this is from a published opinion article in Pravda.

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                                                                                                                        • Spunky
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                                                                                                                          • Jun 2002
                                                                                                                          • 133978
                                                                                                                          #31
                                                                                                                          You keep poking the bear,it will eventually bite back.It is scary that someone has the power to do serious damage with a push of a button.Aim that shit at N.Korea

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                                                                                                                            • bagfull
                                                                                                                              So Fucking Banned
                                                                                                                              • Jul 2014
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                                                                                                                              #32
                                                                                                                              we need to blow russia up now before its to late

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                                                                                                                                • Rochard
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                                                                                                                                  • Dec 2001
                                                                                                                                  • 75770
                                                                                                                                  #33
                                                                                                                                  Originally posted by aka123
                                                                                                                                  More like nuke US if it intervenes, or anyone else. He reminded that they are sovereign country (to mess in other countries).
                                                                                                                                  Sure sure, bring it Putin. He hits us, we hit him, badda boom badda bing..... And suddenly Russia is a nuclear wasteland (as well as the US, and everything else between is dead on the vine).

                                                                                                                                  So Putin can remind us about his nuclear weapons all he fucking wants - he's just banging his fists against his chest talking the talk.

                                                                                                                                  If it was up to me.... I would land ten thousand US Marines right smack in the middle of Ukraine... Then let's see what Putin is going to do. It's not like we haven't fought a dozen proxy wars in the past fifty years.
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                                                                                                                                    • sandman!
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                                                                                                                                      #34
                                                                                                                                      are you an idiot ?

                                                                                                                                      the usa has done 10x more then putin fucking up counties without a world war what makes you think anyone will go to war over Ukraine ?


                                                                                                                                      Originally posted by mikeworks
                                                                                                                                      Putin reminding the west about his nuclear weapons and bizarre explanations for troops found in Ukraine and 'computer game images' of their weapons.

                                                                                                                                      If the EU/US allow him to take over Ukraine, where will he stop?
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                                                                                                                                        • sandman!
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                                                                                                                                          #35
                                                                                                                                          the 10k troops would get nuked just like we would wipe out anyone invading mexico or canada.


                                                                                                                                          you think obamma will launch nukes into russia knowing they will launch back at us ?

                                                                                                                                          i dont think so.

                                                                                                                                          at least i hope no one is that dumb

                                                                                                                                          Originally posted by Rochard
                                                                                                                                          Sure sure, bring it Putin. He hits us, we hit him, badda boom badda bing..... And suddenly Russia is a nuclear wasteland (as well as the US, and everything else between is dead on the vine).

                                                                                                                                          So Putin can remind us about his nuclear weapons all he fucking wants - he's just banging his fists against his chest talking the talk.

                                                                                                                                          If it was up to me.... I would land ten thousand US Marines right smack in the middle of Ukraine... Then let's see what Putin is going to do. It's not like we haven't fought a dozen proxy wars in the past fifty years.
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                                                                                                                                            • just a punk
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                                                                                                                                              The government says it's gonna finish inspection of bomb shelters by September. No j/k ;)
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                                                                                                                                                • Antonio
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                                                                                                                                                  • Oct 2001
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                                                                                                                                                  #37
                                                                                                                                                  Originally posted by wehateporn
                                                                                                                                                  Putin is only doing what anyone would do, taking care of the interests of his nation.
                                                                                                                                                  You are 100% right, Russia is a truly tiny country, super overcrowded - every morning a Russian gets out of his house or apartment, he literally has to step on the head of another Russian, this is how crowded it is over there.

                                                                                                                                                  This is why getting more territory was exactly what the Russians needed. Screw prosperity, peace, and democracy, rattle the nukes and have your country follow the shining example of North Korea.

                                                                                                                                                  Today we flex our nuclear muscles, tomorrow we fly to the Sun and back, yuppie!

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                                                                                                                                                    • just a punk
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                                                                                                                                                        • Klen
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                                                                                                                                                          #39
                                                                                                                                                          Originally posted by CyberSEO


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                                                                                                                                                          They have on steam both metro games on sale for 40 euros tho seems like a overkill.

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                                                                                                                                                            • wehateporn
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                                                                                                                                                              #40
                                                                                                                                                              Originally posted by Mutt
                                                                                                                                                              You're a nutbag. Russia is a HUGE country. What about Poland who the fucking Russians and Nazis carved up in a secret deal? Do you think Poland doesn't need a buffer zone from the animals who took half their country and pulled the Iron Curtain down on them? And the Baltic states?

                                                                                                                                                              Fuck off idiot.
                                                                                                                                                              Resorting to name-calling is consistent with your immature, impulsive, self-centered character, and it's really an admission that you know you're losing the intellectual side of this debate. Time to grow up Mutt!

                                                                                                                                                              There are two military super powers in this world, Poland is not one of them, Poland do not need a bufferzone, Poland is the type of country that is used as a bufferzone by the super powers.

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                                                                                                                                                                • BOOBSARMY
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                                                                                                                                                                  I dont think there will be a ww3 OVER ' Ukraine ' . i mean what exactly is Ukraine ? before all this crisis people hardly new there was a country called Ukraine.

                                                                                                                                                                  they think if they join the European union there life will change or they will get more respect.

                                                                                                                                                                  But the truth is they will become work slaves for UK and Germany , just like poland, czech republic and all the other Eastern European countries.

                                                                                                                                                                  Ukriaine will do WORST if they join the EU

                                                                                                                                                                  and btw wasn't Ukraine part of russia not that long ago ? russia has every right to take back what is his.

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                                                                                                                                                                    • just a punk
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                                                                                                                                                                      #42
                                                                                                                                                                      Originally posted by wehateporn
                                                                                                                                                                      There are two military super powers in this world, Poland is not one of them, Poland do not need a bufferzone, Poland is the type of country that is used as a bufferzone by the super powers.
                                                                                                                                                                      Indeed
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                                                                                                                                                                        • just a punk
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                                                                                                                                                                          Originally posted by KlenTelaris
                                                                                                                                                                          They have on steam both metro games on sale for 40 euros tho seems like a overkill.


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                                                                                                                                                                              #44
                                                                                                                                                                              Originally posted by wehateporn
                                                                                                                                                                              It's coming, but it's only because The West keep prodding Putin, leave him be, but there are powerful people who have a lot to gain by shuffling the pack with another World War.
                                                                                                                                                                              If most people just guided by their media propaganda, it will be no change. Of course, your point is 100% well said but only the intellectual minority share this view. Many in the CIA and US government are convinced that Washington wants to provoke Russia:

                                                                                                                                                                              Last edited by RummyBoy; 08-30-2014, 03:22 AM.

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                                                                                                                                                                                • Kolargol
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                                                                                                                                                                                  #45
                                                                                                                                                                                  Originally posted by aka123
                                                                                                                                                                                  Hard to say what Putin wants, but some more lebensraum, that's for sure. Even with current conquest he will be reminded as a man who made Russia bigger.. land wise I mean and military wise too..
                                                                                                                                                                                  This is all internal politics - Putin needs an external enemy so he can blame all his failures on the West.

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                                                                                                                                                                                    • aka123
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                                                                                                                                                                                      #46
                                                                                                                                                                                      Originally posted by wehateporn
                                                                                                                                                                                      They are always going to be a buffer country, they'll either get fucked by the West or fucked less by the East. Unless they can relocate themselves next to Iceland that's not going to change.
                                                                                                                                                                                      What if they don't want to be buffer countries? Why don't you go and be a buffer?

                                                                                                                                                                                      We are talking about sovereign countries. They can choose their own fucking partners.
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                                                                                                                                                                                        • editeur
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                                                                                                                                                                                          #47
                                                                                                                                                                                          Originally posted by bronco67
                                                                                                                                                                                          Putin is a fucking idiot. Who else would invade a country and hope no one notices? It's classic Russian behavior to assume that everyone is dumb enough to not see through your silly games, especially when it's troops and artillery. Military genius.
                                                                                                                                                                                          Haha, you still don't get it. Everyone knows that our troops are in Ukraine and everybody knows that everybody know, including mr Putin. So, why the denial? The answer is very simply. It's because noone wants to do any serious things to help Ukraine and lose huge profits and other benefits (cheap and indispensable gas for example) of doing business with Russia. No fucking one and especially the core big states of EU as they benefit the most from it. Putin knows this very well too, and he denies everything just to make it easier for EU and US doind nothing but talk. He helps them with this benefit of doubt. He allows them to save their face, because one way or another they won't do anything serious and already regret about what they already done.
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                                                                                                                                                                                            • RummyBoy
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                                                                                                                                                                                              #48
                                                                                                                                                                                              Originally posted by bronco67
                                                                                                                                                                                              Putin is a fucking idiot. Who else would invade a country and hope no one notices?
                                                                                                                                                                                              And its a smart move to demonize, marginalize and provoke Russia to the brink of war? And at this time in the US economy, USA more than ever NEEDS Russia to hold on to dollars and keep up the petrodollar. Russia isn't going to be another Iraq, Libya, Egypt, Afghan etc........

                                                                                                                                                                                              If the eagle wants to provoke the bear, it's bad news for everyone.
                                                                                                                                                                                              Cut Russia out of SWIFT and that is a big blow economically for all (including Russia).
                                                                                                                                                                                              Cut Russia out of VISA/MasterCard and its probably the last straw.

                                                                                                                                                                                              http://edition.cnn.com/2014/08/29/wo...sis/index.html
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                                                                                                                                                                                                • aka123
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                                                                                                                                                                                                  #49
                                                                                                                                                                                                  Originally posted by RummyBoy
                                                                                                                                                                                                  And its a smart move to demonize, marginalize and provoke Russia to the brink of war? And at this time in the US economy, USA more than ever NEEDS Russia to hold on to dollars and keep up the petrodollar. Russia isn't going to be another Iraq, Libya, Egypt, Afghan etc........

                                                                                                                                                                                                  If the eagle wants to provoke the bear, it's bad news for everyone.
                                                                                                                                                                                                  Cut Russia out of SWIFT and that is a big blow economically for all (including Russia).
                                                                                                                                                                                                  Cut Russia out of VISA/MasterCard and its probably the last straw.

                                                                                                                                                                                                  http://edition.cnn.com/2014/08/29/wo...sis/index.html
                                                                                                                                                                                                  What are you talking about? First of all SWIFT is mostly European thing and under control (headquarter in Belgium). "Eagle" has nothing to do with it. Secondly, the bear could stop attacking another country. Usually attacks are considered as a "provocation", or actually it's far beyond provocation, it's the real thing.
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                                                                                                                                                                                                    • Antonio
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                                                                                                                                                                                                      #50
                                                                                                                                                                                                      Originally posted by RummyBoy
                                                                                                                                                                                                      And its a smart move to demonize, marginalize and provoke Russia to the brink of war? And at this time in the US economy, USA more than ever NEEDS Russia to hold on to dollars and keep up the petrodollar. Russia isn't going to be another Iraq, Libya, Egypt, Afghan etc........

                                                                                                                                                                                                      If the eagle wants to provoke the bear, it's bad news for everyone.
                                                                                                                                                                                                      Cut Russia out of SWIFT and that is a big blow economically for all (including Russia).
                                                                                                                                                                                                      Cut Russia out of VISA/MasterCard and its probably the last straw.

                                                                                                                                                                                                      http://edition.cnn.com/2014/08/29/wo...sis/index.html
                                                                                                                                                                                                      Nope, crazy lunatic dictators are like kids, you need to set boundaries for them.

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