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2MuchMark 05-14-2014 11:43 AM

Goodbye Camaro... hello Volt!
 
So, I really love Tesla's, but the price is out of range since we plan to buy a new house this summer, soooo... I am trading in my Camaro for a CHEVY VOLT, and I can't wait! I'll be taking delivery in about a week.

The Volt is a plug-in electric car. The range is about 75 Kilometers but the car has a gas-powered generator that takes over when battery power is depleted. Considering my average commute though, I will rarely if ever have to buy gas for it.

Please email all your republican friends and let them know that the keystone pipeline is no longer necessary. The world is slowly evolving and getting away from smelly, polluting, inefficient gasoline.

Woo!

stephane76 05-14-2014 11:54 AM

https://gfy.com/showthread.php?t=1133063
:)

L-Pink 05-14-2014 12:01 PM

Almost 40% of your electric ……. but go ahead and feel superior.


http://s15.postimg.org/lj65o97uj/Loading_Coal.jpg

http://s8.postimg.org/b4n1n0vc5/Strip_coal_mining.jpg

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MrBottomTooth 05-14-2014 12:05 PM

Lol at 75 km electric range and 15 hour charge times. You're still sucking off the teet of the gas & oil industry if you drive one of these, unless you barely drive anywhere in a day. If that is the case, a true liberal environmentalist would choose public transit. It's the only responsible choice.

lazycash 05-14-2014 12:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by stephane76 (Post 20086788)

:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

dyna mo 05-14-2014 12:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by stephane76 (Post 20086788)

Quote:

Originally Posted by L-Pink (Post 20086794)

Quote:

Originally Posted by MrBottomTooth (Post 20086796)
Lol at 75 km electric range and 15 hour charge times. You're still sucking off the teet of the gas & oil industry if you drive one of these, unless you barely drive anywhere in a day. If that is the case, a true liberal environmentalist would choose public transit. It's the only responsible choice.

Quote:

Originally Posted by lazycash (Post 20086798)
:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

holy fucking godzilla, I wasn't prepared for all the lolz!!!!!!!
:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

+ the nissan leaf is a much better car than the volt.

Joshua G 05-14-2014 12:15 PM

thank you for switching from the republican fossil fuel to the democrat fossil fuel. either way, the penguins are still fucked.


:)

dyna mo 05-14-2014 12:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ********** (Post 20086775)
we plan to buy a new house this summer,


I suggest filtering out homes with attached garages in your house search.

http://sadhillnews.com/wp-content/up...ill-news-1.jpg

2MuchMark 05-14-2014 12:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by L-Pink (Post 20086794)

That is true in some locations, but not here. I live in Montreal, Canada. 100% of our electricity comes from renewable energy, Hydro Electric.


Quote:

Originally Posted by MrBottomTooth (Post 20086796)
Lol at 75 km electric range and 15 hour charge times.

Not true. It takes 4 hours to fully charge a Chevy Volt. When I am home for the night all I have to do is plug it in, and its fully charged a good 4 hours before I wake up in the morning.


Quote:

Originally Posted by MrBottomTooth (Post 20086796)
You're still sucking off the teet of the gas & oil industry if you drive one of these, unless you barely drive anywhere in a day.

Not true. I live about 10 kilometres from downtown. I can drive there and back at least 3 times on a single charge. But since I can charge my car here at home and plug it in an an EV station (for free), its not a worry for me.

If I do run low on batter, the gas engine powers a GENERATOR, which in turn powers the electric motor.



If that is the case, a true liberal environmentalist would choose public transit. It's the only responsible choice.[/QUOTE]


Quote:

Originally Posted by dyna mo (Post 20086800)

+ the nissan leaf is a much better car than the volt.

I looked at the Leaf, but decided I liked the Volt better. A good second choice was the Ford Focus Electric but they are special order only and it takes about 5 months to get one. I didn't feel like waiting.

Sly 05-14-2014 12:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JoshGirls Josh (Post 20086807)
thank you for switching from the republican fossil fuel to the democrat fossil fuel. either way, the penguins are still fucked.


:)

It's as if people think electricity is a magic energy source with no creation point?

2MuchMark 05-14-2014 12:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JoshGirls Josh (Post 20086807)
thank you for switching from the republican fossil fuel to the democrat fossil fuel. either way, the penguins are still fucked.


:)

I'd rather pay about $2.41 instead of $80.00, just to go 350 Kilometres. Kisses.

candyflip 05-14-2014 12:24 PM

My cousin drives one of these. He refuses to park it in his garage now and it takes more than 4 hours to charge, even though that's the number they give.

You were gonna buy a Tesla and now you'll settle for an electric Chevy Cruze? Come on now.

Rochard 05-14-2014 12:24 PM

My goal is to go off the grid completely... I went to a solar power seminar last weekend, so that will happen in the next year or so. After that I'm pretty confident it will be a Tesla.

dyna mo 05-14-2014 12:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sly (Post 20086814)
It's as if people think electricity is a magic energy source with no creation point?


that same magical source where they get their free healthcare.

michael.kickass 05-14-2014 12:36 PM

Congratz on the car change! :thumbsup

L-Pink 05-14-2014 12:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ********** (Post 20086818)
I'd rather pay about $2.41 instead of $80.00, just to go 350 Kilometres. Kisses.

So instead you spend $15,000 to $20,000 extra for an electric option on what is basically a Chevy Cruze?

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MrBottomTooth 05-14-2014 12:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ********** (Post 20086813)

Not true. It takes 4 hours to fully charge a Chevy Volt. When I am home for the night all I have to do is plug it in, and its fully charged a good 4 hours before I wake up in the morning.


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4 hours is for a 240 volt connection. If you plug it into a regular socket it takes 15 hours. I don't know about you, but the only place I regularly see 240 volt connections is behind electric dryers. Of course you can always have one installed, but it's not like you can just grab any power source wherever you are and charge it quickly with a regular extension cord.

Also looks like you can't just use a regular 240 volt outlet, you have to buy one of their charging stations. Check out the price of these:

http://www.pluginnow.com/charging_stations

Robbie 05-14-2014 12:57 PM

Mark, when I saw the stats on the Chevy Volt...I wasn't pleased.

The Tesla is of course THE one.

But if you can't afford that at the moment and just really, really want an electric car...the Nissan Leaf appears to be far superior:
http://www.nissanusa.com/electric-ca...cc=0.240189300

But I guess it's a little late for you to change things.

I'm guessing you'll enjoy the Volt. A new car is always fun no matter what. I just think you could have made a better decision on it IF you had consulted with GFY first! lol

PR_Glen 05-14-2014 12:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rochard (Post 20086823)
My goal is to go off the grid completely... I went to a solar power seminar last weekend, so that will happen in the next year or so. After that I'm pretty confident it will be a Tesla.

i've never been to a inefficient power source seminar myself.. ;)

off the grid is an overrated fairy tail. People do it, but spend far far too much and are still disappointed. Does anyone ever practice moderation anymore?

2MuchMark 05-14-2014 01:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dyna mo (Post 20086810)
I suggest filtering out homes with attached garages in your house search.

http://sadhillnews.com/wp-content/up...ill-news-1.jpg

http://newsinfo.inquirer.net/files/2...-Oil-Train.jpg


Quote:

Originally Posted by candyflip (Post 20086819)
You were gonna buy a Tesla and now you'll settle for an electric Chevy Cruze? Come on now.

I know. I am a terrible human being. (...and It's a "Volt". They look like a Cruise, though...)


Quote:

Originally Posted by Rochard (Post 20086823)
My goal is to go off the grid completely... I went to a solar power seminar last weekend, so that will happen in the next year or so. After that I'm pretty confident it will be a Tesla.

Fucking awesome. :thumbsup:thumbsup:thumbsup:thumbsup:thumbsup:thum bsup


Quote:

Originally Posted by michael.kickass (Post 20086836)
Congratz on the car change! :thumbsup

Thanks! woo!


Quote:

Originally Posted by L-Pink (Post 20086841)
So instead you spend $15,000 to $20,000 extra for an electric option on what is basically a Chevy Cruze?

.

Not true. A Fully loaded Cruise in Canada is $30,375. A fully loaded Volt is $42,000. Quebec Pays $8000 tax credit to buy an EV, bringing the price down to $34,000, making the cost difference only $4000.

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Originally Posted by MrBottomTooth (Post 20086850)
4 hours is for a 240 volt connection. If you plug it into a regular socket it takes 15 hours. I don't know about you, but the only place I regularly see 240 volt connections is behind electric dryers. Of course you can always have one installed, but it's not like you can just grab any power source wherever you are and charge it quickly with a regular extension cord.

Also looks like you can't just use a regular 240 volt outlet, you have to buy one of their charging stations. Check out the price of these:

220/240 Volt connections are in every home here for washer / dryers. A charger is included with the Volt (and Tesla). An electrician can easily run the 240 lines to your garage.

There are currently Two hundred and Fifty 240 Volt charging stations in Quebec, and 10 of them within a few kilometres of me, and 2 of them within 4 blocks of me.


Quote:

Originally Posted by Robbie (Post 20086860)
Mark, when I saw the stats on the Chevy Volt...I wasn't pleased.

The Tesla is of course THE one.

But if you can't afford that at the moment and just really, really want an electric car...the Nissan Leaf appears to be far superior:
http://www.nissanusa.com/electric-ca...cc=0.240189300

But I guess it's a little late for you to change things.

I'm guessing you'll enjoy the Volt. A new car is always fun no matter what. I just think you could have made a better decision on it IF you had consulted with GFY first! lol

I really did consider the Leaf, but I didn't like the "fit". I'm 6'3" and found the car to be pretty snug, and also I'm not that crazy about the styling. Nice car for sure, but...

And yes, Tesla IS king... but if I have to choose between a Tesla and a house, I'll take a house...


Quote:

Originally Posted by PR_Glen (Post 20086862)
i've never been to a inefficient power source seminar myself.. ;)

off the grid is an overrated fairy tail. People do it, but spend far far too much and are still disappointed. Does anyone ever practice moderation anymore?

Just because it isn't perfect doesn't mean it should be ignored...

peace

dyna mo 05-14-2014 01:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MrBottomTooth (Post 20086796)
Lol at 75 km electric range and 15 hour charge times. You're still sucking off the teet of the gas & oil industry if you drive one of these, unless you barely drive anywhere in a day. If that is the case, a true liberal environmentalist would choose public transit. It's the only responsible choice.

**********, what's PT like in your city?

Seth Manson 05-14-2014 01:27 PM

Why dont you buy a car built by a Canadian manufacturer?

MrBottomTooth 05-14-2014 01:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ********** (Post 20086875)



220/240 Volt connections are in every home here for washer / dryers. A charger is included with the Volt (and Tesla). An electrician can easily run the 240 lines to your garage.




According to the chevy website they only include the 110 volt charger. You have to pay for more for the 240 volt.

http://gm-volt.com/2010/10/06/gm-ann...vice-provider/

http://www.carsdirect.com/automotive...n-not-included

Add another $2000 to the price of the car if you want 4 hour charging.

:1orglaugh
Are you even buying one or are you just trolling again? Seems like you should know this stuff if you are picking one up in a week.

RebelR 05-14-2014 01:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ********** View Post



220/240 Volt connections are in every home here for washer / dryers. A charger is included with the Volt (and Tesla). An electrician can easily run the 240 lines to your garage.
Also when you are house shopping, make sure there's enough room left on the panel for you to add that 220 circuit, or it will get expensive.

2MuchMark 05-14-2014 01:47 PM

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Originally Posted by dyna mo (Post 20086882)
**********, what's PT like in your city?

It's pretty good, and I use it alot. It costs about $3.00 for the casual user but you can buy passes which save users money too.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Seth Manson (Post 20086889)
Why dont you buy a car built by a Canadian manufacturer?

Camaro's are assembled in Oshawa, Ontario. Both my camaros (2010, 2013) were built there. Each of my Firebirds ('87, 89, 91, 94, 99, 01) were built just north of Montreal, here in Canada. The Volt is the first non Canadian-built car I'll be buying. - it is built in Detroit, MI. You're welcome.

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Originally Posted by MrBottomTooth (Post 20086893)
According to the chevy website they only include the 110 volt charger. You have to pay for more for the 240 volt.

http://gm-volt.com/2010/10/06/gm-ann...vice-provider/

http://www.carsdirect.com/automotive...n-not-included

Add another $2000 to the price of the car if you want 4 hour charging.

Mine is included. Sorry, Tex. I'm a good negotiator. I'm getting the 8K discount from the gov', a $1000 loyalty discount from GM, and $2100 discount because my better half's company does lots of business with GM. $11,000 in discounts is a pretty sweet deal, even if you're not an EV fanboy like me.

Quote:

Originally Posted by MrBottomTooth (Post 20086893)
:1orglaugh
Are you even buying one or are you just trolling again? Seems like you should know this stuff if you are picking one up in a week.

Definitely buying, but I understand your concern.


Quote:

Originally Posted by RebelR (Post 20086898)
Also when you are house shopping, make sure there's enough room left on the panel for you to add that 220 circuit, or it will get expensive.

Thanks for the tip! But yes I am already asking about that... Some of the new homes here already have 220 in the garages, though they are still rare.

MrBottomTooth 05-14-2014 01:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ********** (Post 20086921)

Mine is included. Sorry, Tex.

No problem, if it's included then you obviously had to pay more for it, as it's not standard equipment, champ.

dyna mo 05-14-2014 02:06 PM

I guess this means I can't use my ********** doing burnouts in a camaro bit anymore. :-(

That was a good bit!

One last time!

http://i.imgur.com/HW2EHlv.jpg

_Richard_ 05-14-2014 02:21 PM

electric car?

please

2MuchMark 05-14-2014 02:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MrBottomTooth (Post 20086930)
No problem, if it's included then you obviously had to pay more for it, as it's not standard equipment, champ.


and

Quote:

Originally Posted by MrBottomTooth (Post 20086893)
According to the chevy website they only include the 110 volt charger. You have to pay for more for the 240 volt.

http://gm-volt.com/2010/10/06/gm-ann...vice-provider/

http://www.carsdirect.com/automotive...n-not-included

Add another $2000 to the price of the car if you want 4 hour charging.

:1orglaugh
Are you even buying one or are you just trolling again? Seems like you should know this stuff if you are picking one up in a week.

By the way Bottomtooth, even EV buyers want to add the 240 Volt charger, the price is only $490 USD or 521 CAD: http://www.pluginnow.com/content/gm-voltec. Installation here is $60 per hour and expected to take 2 hours only. Even the page you quoted says $490. The NISSAN charger is $2200, according to you. DERP!



Quote:

Originally Posted by dyna mo (Post 20086940)
I guess this means I can't use my ********** doing burnouts in a camaro bit anymore. :-(

That was a good bit!

One last time!

http://i.imgur.com/HW2EHlv.jpg


Nnnooooooooooooooooooooo!!!!!

Tell you what. When I get it I'll post some pictures of it with me beside it, or driving it, or plugging it in, etc. Maybe you can photoshop a picture of me electrocuting my balls on it or something. :)



Quote:

Originally Posted by _Richard_ (Post 20086952)
electric car?

please


I have a question for you. You are sounded by electrically powered stuff. Your computer, home stereo, TV's, lights, cellphone, toaster, stove, etc. Subways are electric. Maybe you even have an electric toothbrush.

Why not an electric car?

For casual driving at least, isn't it at least, an interesting alternative to gasoline?

MrBottomTooth 05-14-2014 02:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ********** (Post 20086965)



By the way Bottomtooth, even EV buyers want to add the 240 Volt charger, the price is only $490 USD or 521 CAD: http://www.pluginnow.com/content/gm-voltec

Do you even know what you are talking about or are you just spreading misinformation because you're too lazy to look it up?



Me too lazy to look the info up? You can't even be bothered to read the info on the very link you posted.

That price is for the PART ONLY moron. If you want more than a 1 year warranty on it then you have to go through their recommended supplier for installation which is close to $1500 on top of that.

You might want to spring for the $1500 installation as well to get the better warranty, because lots of people have been having their chargers crap out at just over a year.

MrBottomTooth 05-14-2014 02:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ********** (Post 20086965)



By the way Bottomtooth, even EV buyers want to add the 240 Volt charger, the price is only $490 USD or 521 CAD: http://www.pluginnow.com/content/gm-voltec. Installation here is $60 per hour and expected to take 2 hours only. Even the page you quoted says $490. The NISSAN charger is $2200, according to you. DERP!



How could you not see this on the link I posted at the beginning of this thread, posted on the gm-volt site?
Nothing to do with Nissan.

Quote:

It will cost $490 before installation.

Installation costs are expected to vary depending on how much is involved at the customer?s home. SPX estimates the cost of installation in most cases with be $1475.

Rochard 05-14-2014 02:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PR_Glen (Post 20086862)

off the grid is an overrated fairy tail. People do it, but spend far far too much and are still disappointed. Does anyone ever practice moderation anymore?

I'm not so sure about that.... There are federal and state programs that give you assistance, plus our county has a program called "mpower" that helps too. Factor in a tax write off and the fact that instead of paying $400 a month to the power company I would be paying $100 a month to own the system... Sounds like a deal to me.

2MuchMark 05-14-2014 03:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MrBottomTooth (Post 20086969)
Me too lazy to look the info up? You can't even be bothered to read the info on the very link you posted.

That price is for the PART ONLY moron. If you want more than a 1 year warranty on it then you have to go through their recommended supplier for installation which is close to $1500 on top of that.

You might want to spring for the $1500 installation as well to get the better warranty, because lots of people have been having their chargers crap out at just over a year.

Lol!! Nevermind... you clearly don't give a fuck. The website says there are INCENTIVES for the installation of these things too and in some places, installation is FREE.

But hey! So what if it wasn't! OMG Better stop all electric car sales and stay on Gasoline forever. Thank god for The Koch Brothers, and BP, and the Tar Sands.. please let us pay too much for energy while we choke every person and animal on the planet at the same time. Fucking H christ...

Seth Manson 05-14-2014 03:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ********** (Post 20086921)
Camaro's are assembled in Oshawa, Ontario. Both my camaros (2010, 2013) were built there. Each of my Firebirds ('87, 89, 91, 94, 99, 01) were built just north of Montreal, here in Canada. The Volt is the first non Canadian-built car I'll be buying. - it is built in Detroit, MI. You're welcome.

Regardless of where they are assembled, those are made by an American manufacturer. Just like Honda motorcycles built in Ohio are still Japanese motorcycles.

So why dont you buy a Canadian car?

MrBottomTooth 05-14-2014 03:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ********** (Post 20087043)
Lol!! Nevermind... you clearly don't give a fuck.

You're right, I don't. Sorry, chalk this one up to being bored.:winkwink:

MrBottomTooth 05-14-2014 04:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Seth Manson (Post 20087060)
Regardless of where they are assembled, those are made by an American manufacturer. Just like Honda motorcycles built in Ohio are still Japanese motorcycles.

So why dont you buy a Canadian car?

1916 Russell Motor Cars based out of Toronto are becoming hard to find.
:1orglaugh

And our Brooks Steam automobiles never really took off.

_Richard_ 05-14-2014 04:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ********** (Post 20086965)





I have a question for you. You are sounded by electrically powered stuff. Your computer, home stereo, TV's, lights, cellphone, toaster, stove, etc. Subways are electric. Maybe you even have an electric toothbrush.

Why not an electric car?

For casual driving at least, isn't it at least, an interesting alternative to gasoline?

that's a lot of talking about a car that isn't electric.

it's a hybrid.

a great deal of money has been spent by GMC to even use the term 'electric' and get all the tax benefits, et al, in order to market it to people who get a hard on for 'ELECTRIC / GREEN / ORGANIC'

so what you have done, is purchased something that degrades the whole premise of an electric car

well done.

ErectMedia 05-14-2014 04:25 PM

I personally have no interest in an electric car as I figure a gas 4 cylinder is cheaper and good enough. Pay extra for electric and then when it does need work either expensive or impossible to fix yourself without melting the neighborhood. If I did consider one doubt I'd do a Volt.

georgeyw 05-14-2014 04:28 PM

Very sad day, what kind of man sells his Camaro for that woofter car :helpme:error:Oh crap:mad:

Also, it is interesting, the batterys in these cars are part of the problem......

Source

slapass 05-14-2014 04:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ErectMedia (Post 20087094)
I personally have no interest in an electric car as I figure a gas 4 cylinder is cheaper and good enough. Pay extra for electric and then when it does need work either expensive or impossible to fix yourself without melting the neighborhood. If I did consider one doubt I'd do a Volt.

Check the video on changing a Tesla electric motor. It is nothing. They are the future.


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