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NETbilling 03-11-2014 04:03 PM

This Mac Mini is amazing!
 
So I have this Mac mini on my desk at NETbilling...

I use it for all of my daily work here. It only has 4g of ram and I am amazed by the performance. I have 2 monitors connected to it. A 32" Cinema display and a 25".

I just looked and have about 60 safari tabs running, excel, word, mail, trillion, photoshop, acrobat pro and other programs and the thing purrs like i just restarted it (even though I haven't in over a month).

I am really amazed with the performance of this little $399 compact desktop that's over 3 years old.

This coupled with a 10 year old G5 that my kids use, a 3 year old Macbook pro that I use at home, 3 iPads, a 5 year old iMac, and even a 13 year old Power PC G4 400 that runs a transactions server monitor in my office, and all have never had even one issue.

Apple's quality never fails me, especially how I see so many of our Dell's etc at the office regularly having issues and having to be replaced every couple of years.

http://images.cowboom.com/store/full...T_117550_2.jpg

Mitch

marlboroack 03-11-2014 04:08 PM

Nice :pimp

xNetworx 03-11-2014 04:08 PM

Nice man. I have had several heavy use PCs last for 5+ years with zero issues. Others go to shit after a year or two. You really roll the dice when you buy a PC.

NETbilling 03-11-2014 04:10 PM

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Originally Posted by CamBoss (Post 20011910)
Nice man. I have had several heavy use PCs last for 5+ years with zero issues. Others go to shit after a year or two. You really roll the dice when you buy a PC.


Yeah - I am not an engineer or tech. I am just an end user and I definitely see a quality difference between Apple and the rest. Maybe there is a lot to be said for a company that makes the hardware and OS.

MrBottomTooth 03-11-2014 04:23 PM

I have never had any luck with off the shelf pcs. On the other hand, I have never had any issues with pcs I built myself or with pcs where I told a builder what parts to put in it.

If you try to go to best buy, etc to buy a pc you're going to get garbage.

mineistaken 03-11-2014 04:27 PM

Did they make that trash can computer already?

vdbucks 03-11-2014 04:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NETbilling (Post 20011914)
Yeah - I am not an engineer or tech. I am just an end user and I definitely see a quality difference between Apple and the rest. Maybe there is a lot to be said for a company that makes the hardware and OS.

Apple does not make their own hardware. You get the same Intel CPU's that other systems have, you get the same cheapest bidder ram, the same Seagate/WD hdd's, the motherboard is designed by foxconn last time I checked (a major PC motherboard manufacturer). You just pay more for it.

Sure, the new "diaper genie pro" has a more custom design, but it's all outsourced to the same people who make parts for PCs. Oh, and good luck upgrading the new "diaper genie pro" once you buy it.

Same thing with those iphones and ipads and shit.. the iphone is comprised of what, 60-65% of samsung parts?

As for the mac mini... I have the 2012 model and it's slower than molasses when compared to my pc that runs OS X (hackintosh). It ran me ~$850 off the shelf and will require another $400 or so in memory and ssd upgrades before it's really worth using as a full time machine.

mineistaken 03-11-2014 04:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by vdbucks (Post 20011944)
Apple does not make their own hardware. You get the same Intel CPU's that other systems have, you get the same cheapest bidder ram, the same Seagate/WD hdd's, the motherboard is designed by foxconn last time I checked (a major PC motherboard manufacturer). You just pay more for it.

Sure, the new "diaper genie pro" has a more custom design, but it's all outsourced to the same people who make parts for PCs. Oh, and good luck upgrading the new "diaper genie pro" once you buy it.

Same thing with those iphones and ipads and shit.. the iphone is comprised of what, 60-65% of samsung parts?

As for the mac mini... I have the 2012 model and it's slower than molasses when compared to my pc that runs OS X (hackintosh). It ran me ~$850 off the shelf and will require another $400 or so in memory and ssd upgrades before it's really worth using as a full time machine.

Word :2 cents:

candyflip 03-11-2014 06:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by vdbucks (Post 20011944)
Apple does not make their own hardware. You get the same Intel CPU's that other systems have, you get the same cheapest bidder ram, the same Seagate/WD hdd's, the motherboard is designed by foxconn last time I checked (a major PC motherboard manufacturer). You just pay more for it.

Sure, the new "diaper genie pro" has a more custom design, but it's all outsourced to the same people who make parts for PCs. Oh, and good luck upgrading the new "diaper genie pro" once you buy it.

Same thing with those iphones and ipads and shit.. the iphone is comprised of what, 60-65% of samsung parts?

As for the mac mini... I have the 2012 model and it's slower than molasses when compared to my pc that runs OS X (hackintosh). It ran me ~$850 off the shelf and will require another $400 or so in memory and ssd upgrades before it's really worth using as a full time machine.

Just built two more this past month.

PeR930 03-12-2014 02:03 AM

Lols apple

nico-t 03-12-2014 02:33 AM

Funny to read how people think apple is some sort of miracle when the only thing that differs them from a pc are the trendy casings.

Klen 03-12-2014 02:49 AM

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Originally Posted by nico-t (Post 20012283)
Funny to read how people think apple is some sort of miracle when the only thing that differs them from a pc are the trendy casings.

Well it seems they are oriented to complete noobs.PC is better and cheaper but still require some knowledge.For example,i installed linux to my brother pc and he suddenly started saying how linux sucks,and when asked why there was some issue with loading flash videos.So i fixed that,and since then everything works fine.

pimpmaster9000 03-12-2014 04:08 AM

pc components be so much better when you stick an apple sticker on them and use a shitty OS :thumbsup

DVTimes 03-12-2014 04:17 AM

very nice

its a shame that they made them cost a lot more and less softwear as this was they would have been more popular.

the key is most schools have only pc's.

having never used a mac, means i am less likly to buy one.

Simon 03-12-2014 05:39 AM

I bought my first Mac shortly after the "1984" Super Bowl commercial, and I've owned lots of them over the years since then. I even owned a Dynamac (the SE30 version for those who care), a 20+ pound "portable" clone. I've also used most of the various iterations of the Windows platform, but I just prefer using a Mac. So while I'm a confirmed Mac user who's been fortunate to never have any significant problems with any of them, I usually avoid the threads where people wind up bashing one computing platform over another.

The reason is that I've also been a Jeep owner for even longer than I've been a Mac user. So these discussions kind of remind me of the flame wars that can erupt on other boards between Jeep owners and those who choose to drive the Toyota Land Cruiser, or the Nissan Patrol, the Ranger Rover, Hummer, etc.

My point is that as long as you remember that the map is not the terrain, you can choose to drive whatever will get you where you want to go. So if there are several alternative routes to get there, and multiple choices for the equipment that will all get you to your destination, then it mostly comes down to personal choice. And in that case, just do what makes you happy.

And for those who don't like to read more than a sentence or two before "ooh a bunny!" takes over, here's the short version...

http://www.theeverydaywarrior.com/wp...82_8847962.jpg

http://media-cache-ec0.pinimg.com/73...e050957dd5.jpg

HTH

:)

freecartoonporn 03-12-2014 06:01 AM

its just a another computer.

Due 03-12-2014 06:24 AM

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Originally Posted by crucifissio (Post 20012336)
pc components be so much better when you stick an apple sticker on them and use a shitty OS :thumbsup

Probably because the Mac is Linux based, a big problem Linux end users have always been to get all the hardware to work well and installing new software.
Apple fixed that by building the machines, writing the drivers and creating the app store.

Lykos 03-12-2014 08:23 AM

Mac is always good !

PeR930 03-12-2014 09:21 AM

Yes apple is very noob friendly. I dont have problems with ny windows machines because i am not a noob.

Mickey_ 03-12-2014 09:28 AM

Excellent and highly reliable machines in a visually pleasing packaging. What's not to like? :pimp

RandyD 03-12-2014 09:46 AM

Fucking fag machines.

DWB 03-12-2014 11:14 AM

We have one of those too, it's a little workhorse.

mineistaken 03-12-2014 01:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SimonSays (Post 20012389)
The reason is that I've also been a Jeep owner for even longer than I've been a Mac user. So these discussions kind of remind me of the flame wars that can erupt on other boards between Jeep owners and those who choose to drive the Toyota Land Cruiser, or the Nissan Patrol, the Ranger Rover, Hummer, etc.

Interesting, so Jeep is sort of "Apple" in the world of that kind of vehicles?
Or is it just Jeep Wrangler (as this one is definitely has own style), but not ALL Jeep models, such as grand cherokee which is not that exceptional.

mineistaken 03-12-2014 01:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mickey_ (Post 20012650)
Excellent and highly reliable machines in a visually pleasing packaging. What's not to like? :pimp

Price/quality thing. Not worth the price, that is the main thing not to like. And also the stigma of apple brainwashed sheep. If I carried mac I would know that I would look like that, not that I care, but many people do care of what others think :)

NETbilling 03-12-2014 01:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ViPeR_930 (Post 20012634)
Yes apple is very noob friendly. I dont have problems with ny windows machines because i am not a noob.

I am certainly no Noob. I am an end user that prefers to be productive & making money, not assembling a PC with a crappy Windows operating system. I dealt with Windows in the past and the MAC OS and hardware is superior to anything else I have used. Whether they actually make the parts or not, the configurations they have put together work beautifully with their OS and last for many many years. Not the same can be said for a PC typically.

Mitch

candyflip 03-12-2014 01:21 PM

When has a Mac Mini cost only $399? Pretty sure they've always started at $599.

NETbilling 03-12-2014 01:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by candyflip (Post 20013049)
When has a Mac Mini cost only $399? Pretty sure they've always started at $599.

I bought a year old one.

idolbucks 03-12-2014 01:37 PM

Only problem I have with it is that it's Apple

Mickey_ 03-12-2014 02:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mineistaken (Post 20013041)
Price/quality thing. Not worth the price, that is the main thing not to like. And also the stigma of apple brainwashed sheep. If I carried mac I would know that I would look like that, not that I care, but many people do care of what others think :)

Have you used a mac and if so, were you disappointed with the quality?

mineistaken 03-12-2014 03:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mickey_ (Post 20013135)
Have you used a mac and if so, were you disappointed with the quality?

I was not disappointed with the quality. How is that even relevant to what I said? I was saying that you overpay for that quality, not that quality was bad.

Dvae 03-12-2014 03:10 PM

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Originally Posted by freecartoonporn (Post 20012403)
its just a another computer.

So say the ignorant.

AaronM 03-12-2014 03:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NETbilling (Post 20013043)
I am certainly no Noob. I am an end user that prefers to be productive & making money, not assembling a PC with a crappy Windows operating system. I dealt with Windows in the past and the MAC OS and hardware is superior to anything else I have used. Whether they actually make the parts or not, the configurations they have put together work beautifully with their OS and last for many many years. Not the same can be said for a PC typically.

Mitch


I've been building my own PC's since about 1990. I remember using a 20mb hard drive that weighed as much as a boat anchor.

I still build PC's for the occasional friend or business use where a Mac won't work as well. However, my personal preference has been Mac for a few years now. :2 cents:

Mickey_ 03-12-2014 03:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mineistaken (Post 20013160)
I was not disappointed with the quality. How is that even relevant to what I said? I was saying that you overpay for that quality, not that quality was bad.

How do you put a price tag on quality, reliability and aesthetics?

In my opinion this neverending argument comes down to this perfect trifecta.

Show me another brand that delivers these three values in one package and I will consider buying their product over Apple's. There's a chance you won't be able to at this point in time and that is why Apple is still winning.

Alternative products that are on the market right now either don't look as good or come with a crappy operating system or have inferior build quality.

The argument that Apple products still sell well because people are sheep is, in my opinion, weak. People buy their products because there is value in owning their products.

mineistaken 03-12-2014 03:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mickey_ (Post 20013205)
How do you put a price tag on quality, reliability and aesthetics?

In my opinion this neverending argument comes down to this perfect trifecta.

Well, usually you put a price by comparing all computers and seeing the whole picture. If I see one computer which is of same quality, same reliability and a little bit more aesthetic go for 40% (this is just an example, not necessary a number for this case) more I say it is overpriced and price/quality thing is not favorable for smart user.
Is it smart to pay for same parts, same reliability and better design that much extra?

mineistaken 03-12-2014 03:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mickey_ (Post 20013205)
Show me another brand that delivers these three values in one package and I will consider buying their product over Apple's. There's a chance you won't be able to at this point in time and that is why Apple is still winning.

Again, you may be right, apple may be a little bit better, but main thing is deciding if that little bit is worth 40% extra?

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mickey_ (Post 20013205)
People buy their products because there is value in owning their products.

Well, think about it. Even if you take the best computer you have to have a price point at which it would not be smart to buy it. Right? I mean would you pay 500% extra money for 3% better system? I doubt that.

Mickey_ 03-12-2014 04:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mineistaken (Post 20013219)
Again, you may be right, apple may be a little bit better, but main thing is deciding if that little bit is worth 40% extra?



Well, think about it. Even if you take the best computer you have to have a price point at which it would not be smart to buy it. Right? I mean would you pay 500% extra money for 3% better system? I doubt that.

This is exactly the point. It will vary on an individual basis.

There are simple, quantifiable objective factors (how much is my time worth and how much time can I save by not having to mess with rebooting, drivers, annoying system dialog boxes, malware, etc.) and there are individual subjective factors (how important are aesthetics to me, how important is external build quality to me,etc.) and they all matter as weighted factors when it comes to deciding whether Apple is a good fit for me or not.

There's also the placebo effect to consider ($2 energy drink vs $4 energy drink and the effects each one has on the quantifiable performance boost of an individual)

Cliff notes:
Keep an open mind and use whatever fits you the best and helps you succeed.:thumbsup

candyflip 03-12-2014 04:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NETbilling (Post 20013058)
I bought a year old one.

Score. 4 years later they are likely still selling the same exact machine.

mineistaken 03-12-2014 04:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mickey_ (Post 20013245)
There's also the placebo effect to consider ($2 energy drink vs $4 energy drink and the effects each one has on the quantifiable performance boost of an individual)

Absolutely agree, that is basically what I mean when I poke fun of "brainwashed" apple users. marketing installed the "knowledge" that it is better no matter what :)

NETbilling 03-12-2014 06:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mickey_ (Post 20013205)
How do you put a price tag on quality, reliability and aesthetics?

In my opinion this neverending argument comes down to this perfect trifecta.

Show me another brand that delivers these three values in one package and I will consider buying their product over Apple's. There's a chance you won't be able to at this point in time and that is why Apple is still winning.

Alternative products that are on the market right now either don't look as good or come with a crappy operating system or have inferior build quality.

The argument that Apple products still sell well because people are sheep is, in my opinion, weak. People buy their products because there is value in owning their products.

Absolutely true - I am extremely productive while some of my peers on PCs are regularly having to deal with OS/Hardware and/or Malware issues. That is NEVER the case here with my Apple machines.

Mitch

DamianJ 03-12-2014 06:12 PM

Who would ever have guessed this thread would turn into this?


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