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ctggls 06-30-2013 09:29 PM

So Croatia joined the EU... I feel pity for you guys!
 
Taxes will grow every day, millions of Kuna will be thrown out the window on some mega-useless EU projects, you'll get hit everyday but all sort of EU regulations, small private business will close down in a very short time because of the impossibility to respect all EU laws and regulations for their domain of activity, the daily living price will rise instantly, you'll no longer be a Sovereign state but rather a state ruled my Merkel....

but don't worry, just enjoy the moment, Croatians have centuries ahead to regret it...

adult-help 06-30-2013 09:38 PM

I think still better than being outside.. most if not all countries profited more than being outside..

baggg 06-30-2013 10:36 PM

yep,congrats for the national suicide

k0nr4d 06-30-2013 11:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by adult-help (Post 19694133)
I think still better than being outside.. most if not all countries profited more than being outside..

This is true. Poland for instance got a shitload of money for roads and for billions of euros in grants for small business development (meaning you can write up a business plan and get free money from the EU). Croatia will probably get the same.

Markul 06-30-2013 11:22 PM

The more the merrier.

ctggls 06-30-2013 11:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by k0nr4d (Post 19694205)
This is true. Poland for instance got a shitload of money for roads and for billions of euros in grants for small business development (meaning you can write up a business plan and get free money from the EU). Croatia will probably get the same.

That you later pay in trillions made up of loans.... Croatia will probably get the same.

Even the older members of the EU are complaining about being to hard to stay in the EU...

Of course, one could say that Italy, Spain, Portugal, Ireland, Greece etc, did not knew hot to handle finances and money but then if all the countries with financial problems would disappear from the EU , who would it be left, Germany alone (which it should be said is complaining about the fact that it pays the bill of poorer countries)?

Klen 06-30-2013 11:26 PM

So i finaly wake up after partying in night and checked streets....And i dont see milk and honey floating!WTF is this bullshit,i want my money back ! :1orglaugh

Pronstar 06-30-2013 11:43 PM

C'mon it's not exactly Hotel California. They can step out anytime they want, if they don't like it there.
Congrats neighbors.

Antonio 06-30-2013 11:49 PM

Better roads, financial aid for many of their industry sectors, their tourism (huge part of their economy) will probably start growing with at least 10% per year. And if you want to watch Man United live, all you need is a few hundred bucks for a plane ticket, no standing in line for visas and all that crap.

The EU with all its shit and problems has no alternative, collectively, the EU is the biggest economy in the World and that gives us a lot of leverage. The reason everybody and their cousins are bitching is because they are pussies, the economy got bad, people lost jobs, yeah, it is tough ... guess what, man up, Europe has seen much worse.

Markul 06-30-2013 11:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Antonio (Post 19694233)
The reason everybody and their cousins are bitching is because they are pussies, the economy got bad, people lost jobs, yeah, it is tough ... guess what, man up, Europe has seen much worse.

:thumbsup:thumbsup

Kolargol 07-01-2013 12:36 AM

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Originally Posted by ctggls (Post 19694214)
That you later pay in trillions made up of loans.... Croatia will probably get the same.

these are not loans

pornmasta 07-01-2013 12:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by adult-help (Post 19694133)
I think still better than being outside.. most if not all countries profited more than being outside..

http://www.lonelyplanet.com/maps/eur...witzerland.jpg

You bet ?

pornmasta 07-01-2013 12:57 AM

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Originally Posted by Antonio (Post 19694233)
financial aid for many of their industry sectors.

cool.. free money... :2 cents:

pornmasta 07-01-2013 12:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Kolargol (Post 19694258)
these are not loans

if the product is free then you are the product.
(insert a picture of greek hooker here)

Antonio 07-01-2013 02:12 AM

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Originally Posted by pornmasta (Post 19694266)
You bet ?

Yes, all a country has to do is stay outside the EU and it will be as awesome as Switzerland. Dear Albanians, stay outside the EU and your GDP will go trough the roof in no time, you don't have to work, innovate, bust your ass off, just do nothing and chill out, as long as you are outside the EU, you will be super rich in no time, pornmasta said so, so it must be true

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Originally Posted by pornmasta (Post 19694267)
cool.. free money... :2 cents:

It's called investment and it yields pretty decent return, do you really think that the richer EU countries don't benefit from the better infrastructure in the peripherals?

just a punk 07-01-2013 02:15 AM

I don't think it will significantly change the life in Croatia. Somebody will gain, somebody will lose :2 cents:

pimpmaster9000 07-01-2013 02:21 AM

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Originally Posted by ctggls (Post 19694129)
Taxes will grow every day, millions of Kuna will be thrown out the window on some mega-useless EU projects, you'll get hit everyday but all sort of EU regulations, small private business will close down in a very short time because of the impossibility to respect all EU laws and regulations for their domain of activity, the daily living price will rise instantly, you'll no longer be a Sovereign state but rather a state ruled my Merkel....

but don't worry, just enjoy the moment, Croatians have centuries ahead to regret it...

every time a small fish enters a pond with big fish the result is always the same...you will get EU obligations but you will not get EU $$$...the "admittance money" that you will get will be spent by politicians on their private "in pocket" projects and you, the people, will have to pay this back...

as for "sovereign state" this is a complete illusion...there are 3-4 sovereign states total and they have nasty nukes and a way to deliver...all the rest are not sovereign by any stretch of the imagination...

Paul 07-01-2013 04:50 AM

Welcome back to the Soviet Union :)



Quote:

Originally Posted by k0nr4d (Post 19694205)
This is true. Poland for instance got a shitload of money for roads and for billions of euros in grants for small business development (meaning you can write up a business plan and get free money from the EU). Croatia will probably get the same.

Another country that has been sold down the river by their politicians! :thumbsup

Enjoy the pitance you receive in blood money for the financial slavery of your futures, your children's futures and your children's, children's futures :2 cents:

http://www.snilek.cz/media/texts/eus...u-eu/eussr.jpg

Have a conversation with the Irish, Greek, Spanish, Italians, Portugese etc about how those EU grants are working out for them now!

just a punk 07-01-2013 04:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Paul (Post 19694425)

Indeed, this picture has a sense :2 cents:

seeandsee 07-01-2013 04:59 AM

but they can go to work everywhere now :)

Paul 07-01-2013 05:06 AM

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Originally Posted by seeandsee (Post 19694436)
but they can go to work everywhere now :)

Yeah you're right, instead of being unemployed in Croatia they can be unemployed in the UK, Germany, France etc :)

http://blog.thomsonreuters.com/wp-co...k-1024x872.jpg

money biz 07-01-2013 05:07 AM

pretty sure croatias biggest regret is siding with hitler.

ctggls 07-01-2013 05:18 AM

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Originally Posted by crucifissio (Post 19694317)
every time a small fish enters a pond with big fish the result is always the same...you will get EU obligations but you will not get EU $$$...the "admittance money" that you will get will be spent by politicians on their private "in pocket" projects and you, the people, will have to pay this back...

as for "sovereign state" this is a complete illusion...there are 3-4 sovereign states total and they have nasty nukes and a way to deliver...all the rest are not sovereign by any stretch of the imagination...

Dead on my friend! So true!

ctggls 07-01-2013 05:19 AM

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Originally Posted by seeandsee (Post 19694436)
but they can go to work everywhere now :)

Don't you think Germany, UK, etc have their own unemployed work force? :)

dyna mo 07-01-2013 05:27 AM

that was quick, last i read croatia was still handing over war criminals in an attempt to get accepted into the eu.

ctggls 07-01-2013 05:27 AM

"EU funds" are myth, very few individuals or companies can access them and it takes a lot of paperwork to get it done. If you live in countries where corruption is high only certain "applicants" are qualified to get the so called "EU funds".

On the other hands I wonder how many Croatian Holiday Pensions will manage to comply with the never ending regulations regarding holiday Pensions...

rogueteens 07-01-2013 05:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by k0nr4d (Post 19694205)
This is true. Poland for instance got a shitload of money for roads and for billions of euros in grants for small business development (meaning you can write up a business plan and get free money from the EU). Croatia will probably get the same.

is there anyone left in Poland to use the new roads?

Antonio 07-01-2013 06:03 AM

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Originally Posted by rogueteens (Post 19694477)
is there anyone left in Poland to use the new roads?

only about 38 million people

mineistaken 07-01-2013 06:13 AM

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Originally Posted by pornmasta (Post 19694266)

Wrong.

1. This is one of the exceptions, it has valid background for it (respected banking system)
2. Who knows if Switzerland would not have been even better if joined EU?

mineistaken 07-01-2013 06:16 AM

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Originally Posted by Paul (Post 19694440)
Yeah you're right, instead of being unemployed in Croatia they can be unemployed in the UK, Germany, France etc :)

Wrong. Almost everybody from cheaper EU that goes to UK finds a job (minimum wage in fabric or similar). Those statistics means nothing, as this is different matter - there are always minimum wage work for EU immigrants.

MaDalton 07-01-2013 06:26 AM

i am still a big fan of the EU besides all negative things that of course exist as well.

but opposed to the young folks on here, i remember how it was before - and no, not everything was better in the past

so: welcome Croatia!

Slappin Fish 07-01-2013 06:31 AM

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Originally Posted by Paul (Post 19694425)
Have a conversation with the Irish, Greek, Spanish, Italians, Portugese etc about how those EU grants are working out for them now!

The two countries that received the most EU money where Ireland and Portugal :


Ireland went from being one of the poorest countries to being the second richest in the EU, despite the recession they are still third.

Portugal who was at the bottom with Ireland doubled their GDP in the 10+ years since joining. Spain profited too but spent too much on megalomaniac projects.

Italy and Greece are just too corrupt to manage any sort of funds.


If some thought the party would last forever and didn't manage to put money aside during the Boom years you can't really blame the Eu for that :2 cents:

AtlantisCash 07-01-2013 06:33 AM

So Croation pussy is also added to product list of European content producers?

SpicyM 07-01-2013 06:42 AM

It is just strange that Croats who fought a bloody war for independence now voluntarily sacrifice that independence for EU. Guess this was the wish of the young ones.

States with an average salary of 800 EUR can hardly play a game with states where the average is 3000 EUR. The whole idea behind EU is stupid.

I hope their dictatorship falls very soon. Fuckin hate their stupid laws.

lucas131 07-01-2013 06:45 AM

cool, another black hole on my eu map ... hidden cops have been smoking ganja on beaches just to catch tourists who wanted to buy ... cops have been throwing all the food you had for travel to trash just to make you buying their crap ... and so and so and so, what a stupid country it is ... now lets welcome iran to eu! iran and uzbekistan! cant wait! :Oh crap

rogueteens 07-01-2013 06:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mineistaken (Post 19694494)
Wrong. Almost everybody from cheaper EU that goes to UK finds a job (minimum wage in fabric or similar). Those statistics means nothing, as this is different matter - there are always minimum wage work for EU immigrants.

yes, the UK jobs market is like internet marketing, all was rosy until the tubes and third worlders turned up happy to work for scraps. now just about every job is minimum wage as the east Europeans will do any job for less than the original going rate.

The EU is a fuckfest and the quicker we get our long promised referendum the better.

Antonio 07-01-2013 07:23 AM

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Originally Posted by rogueteens (Post 19694561)
yes, the UK jobs market is like internet marketing, all was rosy until the tubes and third worlders turned up happy to work for scraps. now just about every job is minimum wage as the east Europeans will do any job for less than the original going rate.

The EU is a fuckfest and the quicker we get our long promised referendum the better.

You are 100% right, as soon as you pull out of the EU, everything will be honey and roses, all the immigrants will come from your ex-colonies (no more scary Eastern Europeans), and your standard of living will double in a year or less. Good luck

SpicyM 07-01-2013 07:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rogueteens (Post 19694561)
yes, the UK jobs market is like internet marketing, all was rosy until the tubes and third worlders turned up happy to work for scraps. now just about every job is minimum wage as the east Europeans will do any job for less than the original going rate.

The EU is a fuckfest and the quicker we get our long promised referendum the better.


I am surprised at how Brits tolerate all those migrants.

Paul 07-01-2013 07:43 AM

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Originally Posted by Slappin Fish (Post 19694511)
The two countries that received the most EU money where Ireland and Portugal :

Ireland went from being one of the poorest countries to being the second richest in the EU, despite the recession they are still third.

Granted Ireland spent a lot of their EU grant money wisely on infrastructure I'll give you that. Most of that economic growth was tied into the housing bubble and an unsustainable reliance on the construction industry that completely collapsed when the credit crunch hit.

Ireland also had one of if not the biggest housing bubble in the EU which has resulted in a catastrophic crash in prices.

Irish banks are ALL insolvent and the next EU bailout will most likely result in depositors loosing their savings, the Cyprus incident was pretty much a blueprint for future EU terms and conditions for bailouts.

Irish emigration is now at highest point since the Famine.

None of this reckless lending through MBS was the fault of the people yet everyone in the EU is paying for it through crazy austerity measures and a big fall in living standards.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Slappin Fish (Post 19694511)
Italy and Greece are just too corrupt to manage any sort of funds.

If some thought the party would last forever and didn't manage to put money aside during the Boom years you can't really blame the Eu for that :2 cents:

The whole thing is corrupt to the core, this isn't just about a couple of countries being corrupt. Every single one of us 503,492,041 citizens of the EU will pay for the corruption and greed by the bankers and politicians that have caused this financial collapse.

TheSquealer 07-01-2013 07:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by adult-help (Post 19694133)
I think still better than being outside.. most if not all countries profited more than being outside..

profited at who's expense?


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