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AdultPornMasta 01-04-2013 07:11 AM

Here's Why Someone Would Need To Own An 'Assault' Rifle
 
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" Here's Why Someone Would Need To Own An 'Assault' Rifle

Posted 12/28/2012 06:57 PM ET

Guns: The left keeps asking why anyone needs an "assault" rifle. Here's one reason ? in 2010, a Texas teen used a rifle similar to the one used in Newtown to defend his younger sister and himself from home invaders.


The left quite often exposes its raging elitism through its odious habit of asking why anyone would need the things that it doesn't like, from guns to big homes to monster trucks.

The implication is that if the elitists don't want whatever it is, then no one should be allowed to have it ? except, of course, it's fine for the elitists themselves to live in energy-sucking mansions, hire armed bodyguards and drive around in gas-guzzling limousines and SUVs.

When the left asks these questions it also reveals its blinding ignorance. Is there a single Democrat, dense celebrity or condescending journalist who is aware that "assault" rifles don't just define their owners as red necks but also serve as practical protection?

Actually the total amount of what they don't know about firearms and crime is enough to crush them.

Consider that, according to FBI data, in 2007, there were 453 homicides by rifle in the U.S. Yes, that's too many. But compare that number to a few other methods of homicide employed that year.

In 2007, there were 1,817 homicides committed with "knives or cutting instruments"; "blunt objects (clubs, hammers, etc.)" killed 674; while "personal weapons (hands, fists, feet, etc.)" were the choices in 869 homicides.

The number of rifle homicides has fallen steadily since then to 323 last year, as have the other three weapon classes, though each still remains a more common choice than the rifle.

In fact, when added together, knives, blunt instruments and the human body were responsible for more than nine times as many homicides as rifles in 2011.

Yet no one is asking why anyone would want to own a set of steak knives, place a heavy candelabra on their mantle or have a hammer in their garage.

The weapon used effectively as protection by the Texas teen was neither a club nor a fist but reportedly an AR-15, a rifle on which the .223-caliber Bushmaster used in the tragic Sandy Hook shootings was modeled.

Though tagged "assault" weapons, both are merely semi-automatics, just as are many hunting rifles, and all but a handful are used legally and peacefully.

But elitists on the left don't hunt ? they let someone else do their killing ? so how could they know?

None of this is intended to minimize the tragedy at Sandy Hook Elementary or any other mass shooting.

It's simply an attempt to point out that a screaming obsession over one particular weapon used less frequently to kill than knives is driven by ignorance, arrogance and a nonexistent sense of proportion."

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Grapesoda 01-04-2013 07:16 AM

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Originally Posted by AdultPornMasta (Post 19408023)


The implication is that if the elitists don't want whatever it is, then no one should be allowed to have it — except, of course, it's fine for the elitists themselves to live in energy-sucking mansions, hire armed bodyguards and drive around in gas-guzzling limousines and SUVs.

I've always felt like this was the case with the political type... I had even heard at one point Obama wanted gm to dump the vette and focus small fuel efficient cars... like it's okay for Obama to have cool shit, fly to Hawaii for vacation on a private jet and I have to work 100 hours a week to supply benefits for all the guys kickin' it on the couch watchin the big screen I paid for, support their kids etc...

AdultPornMasta 01-04-2013 07:17 AM

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Originally Posted by Grapesoda (Post 19408030)
I've always felt like this was the case with the political type... I had even heard at one point Obama wanted gm to dump the vette and focus small fuel efficient cars... like it's okay for Obama to have cool shit, fly to Hawaii for vacation on a private jet and I have to work 100 hours a week to supply benefits for all the guys kickin' it on the couch watchin the big screen I paid for, support their kids etc...

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tony286 01-04-2013 07:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Grapesoda (Post 19408030)
I've always felt like this was the case with the political type... I had even heard at one point Obama wanted gm to dump the vette and focus small fuel efficient cars... like it's okay for Obama to have cool shit, fly to Hawaii for vacation on a private jet and I have to work 100 hours a week to supply benefits for all the guys kickin' it on the couch watchin the big screen I paid for, support their kids etc...

yep that $200 to $400 a month and a couple of hundred in food stamps they are living the good life. Also welfare is a very very small part of spending.

sarettah 01-04-2013 08:20 AM

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Originally Posted by AdultPornMasta (Post 19408023)
Stupid shit, stupid shit, stupid shit

You, Marion, are a fucking idiot.

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Originally Posted by Grapesoda (Post 19408030)
Ignorant shit, ignorant shit, ignorant shit

And you are pretty much just as fucking stupid.


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v4 media 01-04-2013 09:38 AM

Could he not have shot with with a normal pistol?

Verbal 01-04-2013 09:41 AM

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Originally Posted by v4 media (Post 19408251)
Could he not have shot with with a normal pistol?

Please don't pollute this thread with common sense. Thank you!

keysync 01-04-2013 09:48 AM

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Originally Posted by AdultPornMasta (Post 19408023)
The weapon used effectively as protection by the Texas teen was neither a club nor a fist but reportedly an AR-15, a rifle on which the .223-caliber Bushmaster used in the tragic Sandy Hook shootings was modeled.

Wrong.... No assault rifle was used in that shooting. Only handguns... Stop watching TV.

PornMD 01-04-2013 09:54 AM

Let's all own tanks for self defense while we're at it. You never know when an army of robbers is going to come after you.

Joshua G 01-04-2013 10:00 AM

home defense can be accomplished with guns that are not as lethal as AR-15s. the reason spree shooters love the AR is the high capacity clips, coupled with hollow point 223 rounds with the extra gunpowder. this combo is highly lethal & efficient at hitting hi numbers of targets in mere seconds. this kill capacity is great for military use, but is likely overkill in a home defense situation. after all, criminals typically dont invade homes with a team full of people. the ending from scarface is somewhat exceptional.

Rochard 01-04-2013 10:25 AM

Why wouldn't you use a handgun?

And why are people so concerned about home defense? I'm 44 and my house has never been broken into.

Donny 01-04-2013 10:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Rochard (Post 19408380)
Why wouldn't you use a handgun?

And why are people so concerned about home defense? I'm 44 and my house has never been broken into.

It's simple, really:

We don't buy insurance for things that happen regularly... we buy insurance for things that are unlikely, but potentially devastating.

Same with guns.

Grapesoda 01-04-2013 10:33 AM

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Originally Posted by sarettah (Post 19408126)
You, Marion, are a fucking idiot.



And you are pretty much just as fucking stupid.


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I can see that you have well organized analytical mind by the quality of your well balanced intellectual argument... :thumbsup

Grapesoda 01-04-2013 10:36 AM

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Originally Posted by tony286 (Post 19408038)
yep that $200 to $400 a month and a couple of hundred in food stamps they are living the good life. Also welfare is a very very small part of spending.

not so very sure... free food, housing, medical... the worst issue most of these people have is living near each other and that's not caused by anyone other then by themselves Tony.

I know not very many people would go through what I have to go through to earn what I earn and live where I live.

Grapesoda 01-04-2013 10:38 AM

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Originally Posted by joshgirls (Post 19408295)
home defense can be accomplished with guns that are not as lethal as AR-15s. the reason spree shooters love the AR is the high capacity clips, coupled with hollow point 223 rounds with the extra gunpowder. this combo is highly lethal & efficient at hitting hi numbers of targets in mere seconds. this kill capacity is great for military use, but is likely overkill in a home defense situation. after all, criminals typically dont invade homes with a team full of people. the ending from scarface is somewhat exceptional.

I think a shotgun is a great weapon for home defense. however I picked up a 1911 because I wanted a powerful low velocity projectile, I didn't get a long gun because of the confined space to work in.

Donny 01-04-2013 10:52 AM

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Originally Posted by Grapesoda (Post 19408428)
I think a shotgun is a great weapon for home defense. however I picked up a 1911 because I wanted a powerful low velocity projectile, I didn't get a long gun because of the confined space to work in.

I don't know why everyone says a shotgun is such a great defense weapon. Sure, it can be in certain situations, but in others it would be horrible. For example: if some bumbling idiot breaks into a person's house and grabs one of your kids so that you won't shoot him, a shotgun would not be a good weapon, whereas a handgun or a highly accurate AR-15 might still safely be able to subdue him without hitting your kid.

sarettah 01-04-2013 11:01 AM

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Originally Posted by Grapesoda (Post 19408408)
I can see that you have well organized analytical mind by the quality of your well balanced intellectual argument... :thumbsup

Your post did not deserve any more intelligence than that.


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Matt 26z 01-04-2013 11:09 AM

Statistically speaking you are better off not confronting an armed home invader with your own gun. If you don't, there is a very low chance of being shot. If you do come running out wirh a gun, that greatly increases the odds of being shot.

mechanicvirus 01-04-2013 11:12 AM

I'm laughing out loud at the thought of fat sweaty gfy nerds struggling to grasp whats going on around them while their sweaty hands slip off the trigger and competely miss this so called robber, who ends up taking everyone because of a fumbling average gfy retard. Yea, give those guys guns.

Elli 01-04-2013 11:16 AM

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Originally Posted by AdultPornMasta (Post 19408023)
Guns: The left keeps asking why anyone needs an "assault" rifle. Here's one reason ?[FONT="Arial Black"][SIZE="6"] in 2010, a Texas teen used a rifle similar to the one used in Newtown to defend his younger sister and himself from home invaders.


The implication is that if the elitists don't want whatever it is, then no one should be allowed to have it ? except, of course, it's fine for the elitists themselves to live in energy-sucking mansions, hire armed bodyguards and drive around in gas-guzzling limousines and SUVs.

1) Sure looks to me like the Texas Teen lived in a nice subdivision and his family drove SUVs, living in an energy-sucking mansion. (https://youtube.com/watch?v=j-q2zHIovOE) Are you saying this poor Texas Teen was defending a tin shack in the bottoms with his only means of self defense while his daddy was out working in the coal mines?

2) Why is everything "left" or "right?" Can't we talk about the actual issue without painting people into corners?

Markul 01-04-2013 11:19 AM

You guys talk to much about guns. Join the army or something.

topnotch, standup guy 01-04-2013 11:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Matt 26z (Post 19408514)
Statistically speaking you are better off not confronting an armed home invader with your own gun. If you don't, there is a very low chance of being shot. If you do come running out wirh a gun, that greatly increases the odds of being shot.

Rock and a hard place.

Try buying homeowners insurance after your house has been robbed "too many" times.

There's no one size fits all answer here.

Rochard 01-04-2013 11:51 AM

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Originally Posted by topnotch, standup guy (Post 19408596)

Try buying homeowners insurance after your house has been robbed "too many" times.

If your house has been broken into more than once, you need to take a good look at your life and figure out where you went wrong.

BlackCrayon 01-04-2013 11:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Donny (Post 19408470)
I don't know why everyone says a shotgun is such a great defense weapon. Sure, it can be in certain situations, but in others it would be horrible. For example: if some bumbling idiot breaks into a person's house and grabs one of your kids so that you won't shoot him, a shotgun would not be a good weapon, whereas a handgun or a highly accurate AR-15 might still safely be able to subdue him without hitting your kid.

no one who cares about their kid would take that risk. especially some amateur in such a high pressure situation. get real.

dgraves 01-04-2013 12:09 PM

Assault rifles aren't the best choice for home defense. Shotguns work the best because you don't have to worry about penetrating walls and accidentally hitting someone in another room or even outside your home.

Assault rifles are mainly for fun.

AdultPornMasta 01-04-2013 12:14 PM

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Originally Posted by dgraves (Post 19408628)
Assault rifles aren't the best choice for home defense. Shotguns work the best because you don't have to worry about penetrating walls and accidentally hitting someone in another room or even outside your home.

Assault rifles are mainly for fun.

True dat!

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Dirty F 01-04-2013 12:15 PM

Every day the gun nuts do everything they can to show how tiny their brain is. Unbelievable.

topnotch, standup guy 01-04-2013 12:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Rochard (Post 19408605)
If your house has been broken into more than once, you need to take a good look at your life and figure out where you went wrong.

Bullshit.

When the local punk needs cash to score more oxycontin, he doesn't assess his neighbors life histories before deciding which one to rob.

But if he knows the odds are uncomfortably high that he'll get his worthless carcass filled with lead should he break into any neighborhood house, he's rather more likely to seek the funds elsewhere.

And from a homeowner's perspective, that's the way it should be.

Profits of Doom 01-04-2013 12:16 PM

I guess you would need to own an assault rifle if you were a senior citizen living in Kansas that made a career out of scamming people, and you were terrified of that eventual knock coming on your front door...

crockett 01-04-2013 12:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Elli (Post 19408536)
1) Sure looks to me like the Texas Teen lived in a nice subdivision and his family drove SUVs, living in an energy-sucking mansion. (https://youtube.com/watch?v=j-q2zHIovOE) Are you saying this poor Texas Teen was defending a tin shack in the bottoms with his only means of self defense while his daddy was out working in the coal mines?

2) Why is everything "left" or "right?" Can't we talk about the actual issue without painting people into corners?

They have no real argument, hence the reason why they bring up completely irrelevant things into an argument about guns..


I mean really what does being so called elite, having a mansion, or a gas guzzling SUV have to do with people owning assault rifles.

They have to try and make it a right vs left thing in order to try to make it seem like some evil socialist conspiracy is trying to take away their gun. Meanwhile you will never hear them actually support not a gun ban but instead toughing up the laws when it comes to guns being used in crime.

Simply put the right wing has once again been used as a puppet, in yet another issue that shouldn't even be about politics. They have been once again duped into taking up the guard for the multi-billion dollar gun industry.

This isn't about rights, it never has been, it's about nothing more than protecting the multi billion dollar gun industry and their profits.

brassmonkey 01-04-2013 12:18 PM

what about the numbers?? the majority follow the law. so punish the lawful citizens??? ban alcoholic beverages again because drunk drivers are killing people and its steady killing

dgraves 01-04-2013 12:27 PM

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Originally Posted by brassmonkey (Post 19408652)
what about the numbers?? the majority follow the law. so punish the lawful citizens??? ban alcoholic beverages again because drunk drivers are killing people and its steady killing

Better yet, if the government gave two shits about saving lives then they would ban cigarettes. Talk about something that is designed to kill people.

beerptrol 01-04-2013 12:27 PM

I figure if I can't hit what I'm shooting at with either a handgun or shotgun, I probably shouldn't own a gun.

dgraves 01-04-2013 12:36 PM

Most gun owners know that AR's don't serve any useful purpose other than pimping out with all kinds of accessories. It's just something that's fun to do.

The 5.56 round is for varmints, not people. The main reason why the military uses it is due to weight. the 7.62 is much more effective but there's a pretty big difference in the weight of the rifle and ammo. You wouldn't be happy humping that thing 10 miles but when you had to use it you would be glad you did.

atom 01-04-2013 12:46 PM

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Originally Posted by dgraves (Post 19408688)
Most gun owners know that AR's don't serve any useful purpose other than pimping out with all kinds of accessories. It's just something that's fun to do.

The 5.56 round is for varmints, not people. The main reason why the military uses it is due to weight. the 7.62 is much more effective but there's a pretty big difference in the weight of the rifle and ammo. You wouldn't be happy humping that thing 10 miles but when you had to use it you would be glad you did.

actually the round was designed to injury enemy soldiers thus causing more resources used by the enemy having to remove their wounded from the battlefield.

Rochard 01-04-2013 12:54 PM

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Originally Posted by topnotch, standup guy (Post 19408643)
Bullshit.

When the local punk needs cash to score more oxycontin, he doesn't assess his neighbors life histories before deciding which one to rob.

But if he knows the odds are uncomfortably high that he'll get his worthless carcass filled with lead should he break into any neighborhood house, he's rather more likely to seek the funds elsewhere.

And from a homeowner's perspective, that's the way it should be.

You missed my point. If you live in an area where there are a lot of people who yearn for oxycontin, you need to re-evaluate your life and figure out why you live in an area there are such problems. I'm not saying my hometown doesn't have this problem, but I am saying it's not such a huge problem the the general population here doesn't live in fear of their house being broken into.

I'm forty-four years old and not once have I ever had my house or car broken into, nor do I feel the need to fortify my house with assault rifles. I have locks on the door and an alarm system and my local police has a response time of less than a minute or so.

If you feel you need to protect fear into potential criminals to prevent them from breaking into your house, then you've already failed.

PornoMonster 01-04-2013 01:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Rochard (Post 19408720)
You missed my point. If you live in an area where there are a lot of people who yearn for oxycontin, you need to re-evaluate your life and figure out why you live in an area there are such problems. I'm not saying my hometown doesn't have this problem, but I am saying it's not such a huge problem the the general population here doesn't live in fear of their house being broken into.

I'm forty-four years old and not once have I ever had my house or car broken into, nor do I feel the need to fortify my house with assault rifles. I have locks on the door and an alarm system and my local police has a response time of less than a minute or so.

If you feel you need to protect fear into potential criminals to prevent them from breaking into your house, then you've already failed.

Many rich nice neighborhoods get broken into, that is where the money is.
2-3 days before Christmas in my town, Many Many cars are broken into ALL Over the town. They know most people store Christmas presents in them to hide from the kids.

I do not believe in protecting your car with violence, just saying!
But If I do go out to scare them off, and things get out of control, Yep.

So where you Live has nothing to do with it .... Robin Hood! HA

dgraves 01-04-2013 01:17 PM

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Originally Posted by atom (Post 19408710)
actually the round was designed to injury enemy soldiers thus causing more resources used by the enemy having to remove their wounded from the battlefield.

That's also an effective strategy.

dgraves 01-04-2013 01:24 PM

Asking someone why they "need" something is pointless. We're in the business of "want", not "need". We "want" guns because they are cool and if you don't like guns then you'll never get it. My wife doesn't need 500 pairs of shoes but I do my best to understand her wanting them. Fortunately she's into guns to so she enjoys shopping at the gun club almost as much as I do.

I have buddies who spend tens of thousands of dollars fixing up old cars when they can buy a new one. It's not my thing and I'll never get it but I can relate to it and I never make them feel stupid about what they are passionate about.

brassmonkey 01-04-2013 01:26 PM

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Originally Posted by dgraves (Post 19408668)
Better yet, if the government gave two shits about saving lives then they would ban cigarettes. Talk about something that is designed to kill people.

exactly! :2 cents: take a gander http://www.craigerscinemacorner.com/...or_smoking.htm

In terms of modern day scourges that kill people on an annual basis, nothing can top cigarettes.

Sure, alcohol is a terrible cause of fatalities every year, but their numbers are relatively small compared to tobacco (approximately 80-100,000 deaths per year in the US).

What about say?guns? A paltry number, if statistics mean anything. Firearm related deaths only account for about 11,000 deaths per year in the US.


its smoke and mirrors


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Originally Posted by atom (Post 19408710)
actually the round was designed to injury enemy soldiers thus causing more resources used by the enemy having to remove their wounded from the battlefield.

ok :1orglaugh


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