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digitaldivas 08-31-2011 11:43 AM

75 years for taping Police?!? WTF?
 
This is just fucking retarded! :2 cents:


PastorSinAlot 08-31-2011 12:03 PM

Fuck the police
 
https://youtube.com/watch?v=2tlW7lODQsc
fuck the police

halfpint 08-31-2011 12:04 PM

wow thats crazy when they can film you without your consent

JamesGw 08-31-2011 12:06 PM

What the fuck?

seeandsee 08-31-2011 12:06 PM

laws are fucking shit, fight them

digitaldivas 08-31-2011 12:07 PM

I just don't understand, if I was in that state, I would be out rallying for that guy. What is happening to our country?!? Our forefathers would be fucking pissed! People need to wake the fuck up!

MaDalton 08-31-2011 12:15 PM

sounds like Nazi Germany to me - watch out when your neighbours start to disappear

L-Pink 08-31-2011 12:21 PM

What a crock of shit. Does this mean that every time a news station records a hostage situation, asks a cop at a crime scene a question, etc, they are committing a felony because they didn't get permission from each cop on the scene?

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Double trouble 08-31-2011 12:23 PM

Crazy shit!!

L-Pink 08-31-2011 12:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by digitaldivas (Post 18392310)
I just don't understand, if I was in that state, I would be out rallying for that guy. What is happening to our country?!? Our forefathers would be fucking pissed! People need to wake the fuck up!

Exactly, why aren't people in the area protesting? The ACLU (American Civil Liberty Union) will show up in force to make sure the right of groups like the KKK aren't violated but this goes un-protested?

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MetaMan 08-31-2011 12:25 PM

Lets hear about how police are here to serve and protect.

blackmonsters 08-31-2011 12:26 PM

That video made me sick to my stomach.

People video tapes all kinds of things and people in public without their
consent so are these people going to jail also?

I mean, if I'm in a argument at McDonalds and someone records it on their
cell phone and post it on youtube then are they not also breaking the law since
I didn't give them permission. Eavesdropping laws were not written to protect
cops so it must apply to everybody. But then it doesn't dose it?

Tom_PM 08-31-2011 12:34 PM

The news channel should go to jail for 75 years for reporting it now. Multiple counts.

bronco67 08-31-2011 12:35 PM

I'm not much for conspiracy, and crying about police-states -- but this is some scary shit. It appears to be a measure(albeit a non-subtle one) to allow the police to get away with whatever they want.

If anything, taping the police should be encouraged, so they'll stay in check. Do states want their police officers to run around tasing and beating people with no possibility of evidence?

AzteK 08-31-2011 12:35 PM

This is bullshit and it won't stick, or there is more to this story than presented.

sperbonzo 08-31-2011 12:37 PM

Those damn Republican law makers!!!


Oh....


Wait.....



Illinois is the most Democrat-dominated state in the union, measured by the party’s control over state government and its votes for U.S. Senate and president.

The Democrats have controlled the governor’s mansion and both houses of the legislature since January 2003. They stayed in power even after their two-time governor was impeached following one of the biggest corruption scandals in the state’s history.

The only place Democrats have been running state government longer? West Virginia.

Source: http://www.nbcchicago.com/blogs/ward...#ixzz1WdYAgTOF


No matter WHO votes in this kind of law, they need to be voted out, but for all those who think that this kind of crap only comes from one political party, think again.



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MrCain 08-31-2011 12:39 PM

That is beyond retarded.

MaDalton 08-31-2011 12:41 PM

Michael, where in the thread was any party mentioned?

You seem to be a bit too focused on the whole dems/gop thing recently - which might not even be your (the americans) problem :2 cents:

shade001 08-31-2011 12:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by L-Pink (Post 18392369)
The ACLU (American Civil Liberty Union) will show up in force to make sure the right of groups like the KKK aren't violated

Doubt that. Now if it were the Black Panthers it would be a different story.

Quentin 08-31-2011 12:45 PM

There's some light at the end of the tunnel for this defendant in Illinois, in the form of a ruling issued by the First Circuit Court of Appeals just 5 days ago.

In a the case Glik v. Cunniffe, the Court held that the citizens have a First Amendment right to record the police in public settings. Among other things, the court stated in its ruling:

Quote:

It is firmly established that the First Amendment?s aegis extends further than the text?s proscription on laws ?abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press,? and encompasses a range of conduct related to the gathering and dissemination of information. As the Supreme Court has observed, ?the First Amendment goes beyond protection of the press and the self-expression of individuals to prohibit government from limiting the stock of information from which members of the public may draw.? An important corollary to this interest in protecting the stock of public information is that ?[t]here is an undoubted right to gather news ?from any source by means within the law.??
and

Quote:

In our society, police officers are expected to endure significant burdens caused by citizens? exercise of their First Amendment rights. Indeed, ?[t]he freedom of individuals verbally to oppose or challenge police action without thereby risking arrest is one of the principal characteristics by which we distinguish a free nation from a police state.? The same restraint demanded of law enforcement officers in the face of ?provocative and challenging? speech must be expected when they are merely the subject of videotaping that memorializes, without impairing, their work in public spaces.
You can bet your bottom dollar that quotes from the First Circuit ruling will be front and center in the defense arguments in Michael Allison's case.

If any of you are interested, the Court's ruling in the Glik case can be found here.

digitaldivas 08-31-2011 12:51 PM

Thanks so much for that link, Quentin! The first step is educating the people! :thumbsup

digitaldivas 08-31-2011 12:53 PM

sperbonzo, your right, no matter what the affiliation, these criminals should be voted out of office. The root of the democratic and republican movements are good. I am a democrat and I am not voting for Obama because he lied and did not repeal the patriot act, which has done more to fucking up the bill of rights than ANY other piece of legislation ever presented, and approved by our government.

digitaldivas 08-31-2011 12:59 PM

The Constitution is not an instrument for the government to restrain the people, it is an instrument for the people to restrain the government." Patrick Henry

"Government is not reason; it is not eloquence. It is force. And force, like fire, is a dangerous servant and a fearful master." George Washington

L-Pink 08-31-2011 01:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by shade001 (Post 18392440)
Doubt that. Now if it were the Black Panthers it would be a different story.

I watched it in downtown Cincinnati.

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brassmonkey 08-31-2011 01:04 PM

people need to take the power back.

blackmonsters 08-31-2011 01:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by L-Pink (Post 18392353)
What a crock of shit. Does this mean that every time a news station records a hostage situation, asks a cop at a crime scene a question, etc, they are committing a felony because they didn't get permission from each cop on the scene?

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Well they will be treated like google. Laws don't apply because they are "special".

We have "special" citizens/companies in America because we always have had them.

brassmonkey 08-31-2011 01:31 PM

who here lives in that state?

czarina 08-31-2011 01:37 PM

talk about a biased sentence!

camperjohn64 08-31-2011 01:39 PM

There is a reason why cops are called pigs. They are not nice. They are the most dishonorable people on the planet.

blackmonsters 08-31-2011 01:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sperbonzo (Post 18392420)
Those damn Republican law makers!!!


Oh....


Wait.....



Illinois is the most Democrat-dominated state in the union, measured by the party?s control over state government and its votes for U.S. Senate and president.

The Democrats have controlled the governor?s mansion and both houses of the legislature since January 2003. They stayed in power even after their two-time governor was impeached following one of the biggest corruption scandals in the state?s history.

The only place Democrats have been running state government longer? West Virginia.

Source: http://www.nbcchicago.com/blogs/ward...#ixzz1WdYAgTOF


No matter WHO votes in this kind of law, they need to be voted out, but for all those who think that this kind of crap only comes from one political party, think again.



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Wow, you found a "loopy" way to make a political post defending republicans.

What a surprise!!!



not.

blackmonsters 08-31-2011 01:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by camperjohn64 (Post 18392603)
There is a reason why cops are called pics. They are not nice. They are the most dishonorable people on the planet.


Ummmmm, there will be no more "pics" of cops. :error

:1orglaugh



Disclaimer : I know what you meant to type but being a pest is so entertaining.

brassmonkey 08-31-2011 01:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by camperjohn64 (Post 18392603)
There is a reason why cops are called pigs. They are not nice. They are the most dishonorable people on the planet.

they roll in their on shit

Sly 08-31-2011 01:57 PM

I'm not happy with the current state of the police, but the anger in this thread is sort of misguided. The police did not create that law, they may have influenced, but they did not create. Anger should be focused on those that created this law and also the prosecutor.

A crime carries a range of a sentence, multiply that crime by several instances and you get XX years.

This guy will not get 75 years. Hopefully he will find a good lawyer and not get any years. Then hopefully after that a few your lawyers will go after the constitutionality of the law, nationwide, and have it stricken or changed.

Some people say that police are just humans and make mistakes. I disagree. If you are given the responsibility and power to enforce the law, you are no longer a common citizen. Your behavior should be BETTER than the laws you enforce.

digitaldivas 08-31-2011 02:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by blackmonsters (Post 18392528)
Well they will be treated like google. Laws don't apply because they are "special".

We have "special" citizens/companies in America because we always have had them.

spoken for the truth :2 cents:

digitaldivas 08-31-2011 02:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sly (Post 18392653)
I'm not happy with the current state of the police, but the anger in this thread is sort of misguided. The police did not create that law, they may have influenced, but they did not create. Anger should be focused on those that created this law and also the prosecutor.

A crime carries a range of a sentence, multiply that crime by several instances and you get XX years.

This guy will not get 75 years. Hopefully he will find a good lawyer and not get any years. Then hopefully after that a few your lawyers will go after the constitutionality of the law, nationwide, and have it stricken or changed.

Some people say that police are just humans and make mistakes. I disagree. If you are given the responsibility and power to enforce the law, you are no longer a common citizen. Your behavior should be BETTER than the laws you enforce.

true, but you said it yourself, why enforce it? Imho, police don't want cameras because they don't want to get busted for doing something shady. Of course, not all law enforcement, but there are a good amount of "bad apples" out there, you would have to agree. The fact that we are having a conversation on this travesty, in 2011, is just one of many signs that this country is heading in the wrong direction imho.

MetaMan 08-31-2011 02:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sly (Post 18392653)
I'm not happy with the current state of the police, but the anger in this thread is sort of misguided. The police did not create that law, they may have influenced, but they did not create. Anger should be focused on those that created this law and also the prosecutor.

your kind of thinking makes 0 sense. Every person has their own choice. Police CHOOSE to enforce the law. They are not FORCED. This is exactly what law makers want, always placing blame on an outside force or individual so single people never have to be blamed.

The anger is not mis guided at all. All the anger should be directed at the people that are used as pawns. If you are apart of something that you CHOOSE to be apart of your hands are not washed from the situation.

With your thinking the buck is always passed onto the next guy. Police just as anyone should be accountable for their actions. They choose the job. I would never choose i job i do not agree with 100%.

By your thinking they are being paid for enforcing things they do not agree with. Which is even worse.

Think it over.

MetaMan 08-31-2011 02:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sly (Post 18392653)
I'm not happy with the current state of the police, but the anger in this thread is sort of misguided. The police did not create that law, they may have influenced, but they did not create. Anger should be focused on those that created this law and also the prosecutor.
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And to note you sound like a complete communist. So the special forces should do as the government says? What is your thinking here?

Just Alex 08-31-2011 02:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sperbonzo (Post 18392420)
Those damn Republican law makers!!!


Oh....


Wait.....



Illinois is the most Democrat-dominated state in the union, measured by the party’s control over state government and its votes for U.S. Senate and president.

The Democrats have controlled the governor’s mansion and both houses of the legislature since January 2003. They stayed in power even after their two-time governor was impeached following one of the biggest corruption scandals in the state’s history.

The only place Democrats have been running state government longer? West Virginia.

Source: http://www.nbcchicago.com/blogs/ward...#ixzz1WdYAgTOF


No matter WHO votes in this kind of law, they need to be voted out, but for all those who think that this kind of crap only comes from one political party, think again.



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You ever get tired of this shit? Seriously :Oh crap

Sly 08-31-2011 02:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MetaMan (Post 18392703)
your kind of thinking makes 0 sense. Every person has their own choice. Police CHOOSE to enforce the law. They are not FORCED. This is exactly what law makers want, always placing blame on an outside force or individual so single people never have to be blamed.

The anger is not mis guided at all. All the anger should be directed at the people that are used as pawns. If you are apart of something that you CHOOSE to be apart of your hands are not washed from the situation.

With your thinking the buck is always passed onto the next guy. Police just as anyone should be accountable for their actions. They choose the job. I would never choose i job i do not agree with 100%.

By your thinking they are being paid for enforcing things they do not agree with. Which is even worse.

Think it over.

Prosecutors order arrests all of the time. This guy may or may not have been arrested on the spot. If he wasn't, a prosecutor very likely had him arrested afterwards. So it still goes back to the law and the prosecutor.

Be mad at the police, nothing wrong with that, I'm with you there. Simply saying being mad at them alone isn't going to do much good. There are people above them pulling strings.

Sly 08-31-2011 02:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MetaMan (Post 18392707)
And to note you sound like a complete communist. So the special forces should do as the government says? What is your thinking here?

Apparently its law in 12 states. You think every officer in every one of those 12 states is going to choose to not enforce that law? It's not going to happen. The law needs to go.


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