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Jack Sparrow 11-28-2010 02:22 AM

GFY cleanup part 2: Give back a little GFY to the serious biz people!
 
Followup on this thread: https://gfy.com/showthread.php?t=999450 but with the best ideas put together.

1. Make a seperate section on GFY for serious bussiness people.
2. Make that seperate section a PAID section. $100 a year to get access to it.
3. Have serious identifaction: a) Whois check b) Automatic telephonenumber verification c) Automatic file verification (where said person uploads a personal html file that can be checked and verified.
4. Serious biz posts only, strict rules, no personal attacks, no trashing etc etc. Not following the rules is a sudden ban.

Following quote from jewcat says it all:

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Only people who pay to get in are allowed in, only business is allowed, and failure to adhere to the rules in said section results in forfeiture of your fees and access. It gives the serious members a place to hang out and discuss biz, some people would ever leave this area, and the hangers on a surfers still have access to the rest of the forum. The $100/fee should more than pay for the mod's time taken to verify industry role and perhaps even hit up references to verify industry participation, while adding an additional revenue stream to gfy...

Alky 11-28-2010 02:26 AM

are serious business posts the same as... spamming?

Davy 11-28-2010 02:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jack Sparrow (Post 17732871)
2. Make that seperate section a PAID section. $100 a year to get access to it.

Some problems with that:
- same people trolling in that section as in the free section
- no new blood
- no biz with outsiders

But a new section is in order if things should change here.
GFY's main forum is the troll forum. The business part should be better separated from that.
Turn "fucking around and discussions" into "offtopic". Then go through all older threads and move the business threads into a new forum.
It is a lot of work, but it can be done.

Angry Jew Cat - Banned for Life 11-28-2010 03:05 AM

fuck moving old threads, that is way too much work, nobody wants to do it, nobody will do it. as long as that is part of the plan, no one is ever going to tackle it. just start with a fresh new subforum and make sure it is run properly from the start. :2 cents:

punkpred 11-28-2010 03:07 AM

Start by fucking off yourself

Jack Sparrow 11-28-2010 03:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Alky (Post 17732873)
are serious business posts the same as... spamming?

At least we wouldnt have to deal with nobodies like you. :thumbsup

Quote:

Originally Posted by Davy (Post 17732881)
Some problems with that:
- same people trolling in that section as in the free section
- no new blood
- no biz with outsiders

But a new section is in order if things should change here.
GFY's main forum is the troll forum. The business part should be better separated from that.
Turn "fucking around and discussions" into "offtopic". Then go through all older threads and move the business threads into a new forum.
It is a lot of work, but it can be done.

I dont think we should move all existing biz threads there, start new and fresh so we know who to trust too. There will always be new blood, and you could still contact people that arent in there but posting on the troll section looking for your services.

Outsiders? Have you seen what gfy turned into? The outsiders are: surfers, fakenicks, people who got banned before with multiple nicks, trashers and general dumbasses. Hardly any outsider i want to do biz with, no offense.

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Originally Posted by Angry Jew Cat (Post 17732900)
fuck moving old threads, that is way too much work, nobody wants to do it, nobody will do it. as long as that is part of the plan, no one is ever going to tackle it. just start with a fresh new subforum and make sure it is run properly from the start. :2 cents:

Yep, agreed. It wouldnt even be that hard to find 2-3 mods to verify things and keep an eye on whats happening there. Maybe we could even get people to work together again. Share real tips without every thread ending into a trashfest between fakenicks and anonymous losers.

Its not that uncommon either, mainstream forums do this all the time. And it works.

Agent 488 11-28-2010 03:20 AM

who gives a shit?

Jack Sparrow 11-28-2010 03:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Agent 488 (Post 17732913)
who gives a shit?

From the looks of it, lots of serious people.

Agent 488 11-28-2010 03:35 AM

gfy is what it is.

Robocrop 11-28-2010 03:38 AM

Overkill.......stop try to change what Eric has built up.

Stop pretend to be serious, we are what we are.

ottopottomouse 11-28-2010 05:37 AM

Massive clean-ups kill forums.

Jack Sparrow 11-28-2010 05:48 AM

Gfy is flooded with bullshit trolls and fakenicks.
Talk to anyone IN the biz offline and they will tell you they dont take gfy serious anymore. Which a couple of us biz people find sad. Why not give us our bizforum? Cant be much against trying..

Stacks Banned for Life 11-28-2010 05:59 AM

lol if you wanna charge then bump it to a 500-1k lifetime membership for exclusive forums and business people, 100 is not enough to weed out the bs.

Slutboat 11-28-2010 06:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jack Sparrow (Post 17733041)
Gfy is flooded with bullshit trolls and fakenicks.
Talk to anyone IN the biz offline and they will tell you they dont take gfy serious anymore. Which a couple of us biz people find sad. Why not give us our bizforum? Cant be much against trying..

hahahahah - YOU FORGOT HYPOCRITES!

You are a fake ass multiple nick - you troll and talk shit more than anyone on GFY!

I can not BELIEVE you didn't use one of your other nicks to make this thread....

AmeliaG 11-28-2010 06:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jack Sparrow (Post 17733041)
Gfy is flooded with bullshit trolls and fakenicks.
Talk to anyone IN the biz offline and they will tell you they dont take gfy serious anymore. Which a couple of us biz people find sad. Why not give us our bizforum? Cant be much against trying..


There are industry folks who have been claiming not to take GFY seriously any more for years and yet they all have accounts here and it is still the biggest of the adult webmaster forums.

Robocrop 11-28-2010 06:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Slutboat (Post 17733094)
hahahahah - YOU FORGOT HYPOCRITES!

You are a fake ass multiple nick - you troll and talk shit more than anyone on GFY!

I can not BELIEVE you didn't use one of your other nicks to make this thread....

Have to agree abit here Frisky...you have been flooding the forum alot vs Choker and been using multiple nicks

Suddenly you are against the same shit you have been pulling around here?


Eric will not change the rules, why waste your breath?

Robocrop 11-28-2010 07:01 AM

Oh and as a sidenote...if GFY sucks so much? buy a domain for $10 and set up Vbulletin, then invite your "biz" friends via ICQ/Mail and have your biz forum?

I mean after 1-2 months it will be crowded with business minded people who are GFY millionares.

Machete_ 11-28-2010 07:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jack Sparrow (Post 17732871)
bla bla bla bla bla

fuck off, you broke surfer noob

Slutboat 11-28-2010 07:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Robocrop (Post 17733106)
Oh and as a sidenote...if GFY sucks so much? buy a domain for $10 and set up Vbulletin, then invite your "biz" friends via ICQ/Mail and have your biz forum?

I mean after 1-2 months it will be crowded with business minded people who are GFY millionares.


it would be nice to see GFY indulge Sparrow's fantasy here - Jack off could sit in his ghost town by himself and wait for others to come in...

http://localbizbuilders.com/offliner.../ghosttown.jpg

Angry Jew Cat - Banned for Life 11-28-2010 07:10 AM

You don't need to clean up the forum or change anything.

Just create the premium subforum and take good care of it. Leave everything else exactly how it is. That way you've given all the hardcore "industry only" whiners a place to go be amongst themselves without the FA&PD shitshow getting in their way. If they venture over to FA&PD and don't like what they see, fuck 'em. It would be nice to have one area where if you don't want to see the bullshit and want to hold a conversation with some halfway serious members, you can.

Slutboat 11-28-2010 07:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Angry Jew Cat (Post 17733121)
You don't need to clean up the forum or change anything.

Just create the premium subforum and take good care of it. Leave everything else exactly how it is. That way you've given all the hardcore "industry only" whiners a place to go be amongst themselves without the FA&PD shitshow getting in their way. If they venture over to FA&PD and don't like what they see, fuck 'em. It would be nice to have one area where if you don't want to see the bullshit and want to hold a conversation with some halfway serious members, you can.


Frisky doesn't really want the subforum - this is just his way of telling people he thinks he is better than us... even if he got his wish - he would still be here in the fun house talking shit the whole time...

quiet 11-28-2010 07:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Agent 488 (Post 17732918)
gfy is what it is.

indeed..

candyflip 11-28-2010 07:22 AM

Watching fake nick frisky whine and cry about an institution that hasn't changed in 10 years now.

Gfy is what it is. Don't like it...get lost. This has always been how it is.

Black All Through 11-28-2010 07:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Slutboat (Post 17733094)
hahahahah - YOU FORGOT HYPOCRITES!

You are a fake ass multiple nick - you troll and talk shit more than anyone on GFY!

I can not BELIEVE you didn't use one of your other nicks to make this thread....

What are his other fake nicks?

Paul Markham 11-28-2010 07:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Robocrop (Post 17732922)
we are what we are.

Quoted for the truth.

Jack the solution is simple. Put those you think are trolls on ignore, including me if you think I'm a troll.

Then they won't bother you.

candyflip 11-28-2010 08:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Black All Through (Post 17733160)
What are his other fake nicks?

Wouldn't be surprised if this is one of them. :1orglaugh

CaptainHowdy 11-28-2010 08:01 AM

This only proves that the ones who really want "change" just want things to stay the same, this kind of posts are just a "mise en scène".

salvo visalli 11-28-2010 08:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Stacks (Post 17733050)
lol if you wanna charge then bump it to a 500-1k lifetime membership for exclusive forums and business people, 100 is not enough to weed out the bs.

good point! :thumbsup

topnotch, standup guy 11-28-2010 08:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jack Sparrow (Post 17732871)
2. Make that seperate section a PAID section. $100 a year to get access to it.

Hey shit for brains, Eric has already stated for the record that GFY will never charge membership fees. What part of never charging didn't you understand?

As for the rest: Will Marco and Eastwood be granted admission to your proposed new forum?
.

arock10 11-28-2010 08:40 AM

this shouldve been done years ago, too late now adult is dead

Jack Sparrow 11-28-2010 08:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Slutboat (Post 17733094)
hahahahah - YOU FORGOT HYPOCRITES!

You are a fake ass multiple nick - you troll and talk shit more than anyone on GFY!

I can not BELIEVE you didn't use one of your other nicks to make this thread....

Thats because i only have one, but feel free to point out any other nicks i use.

Quote:

Originally Posted by AmeliaG (Post 17733100)
There are industry folks who have been claiming not to take GFY seriously any more for years and yet they all have accounts here and it is still the biggest of the adult webmaster forums.

Maybe the biggest as in "amounts of post". But you can count the REAL biz threads here on the fingers of one hand. There are forums that might be 90% smaller, but at least i know im doing biz with people IN the biz and without every bizthread resulting into a trashfest by people that have nothing lost here.

No offense. But it seems that there is more then enough interest for a platform on gfy that is not just about bullshit.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Robocrop (Post 17733104)
Have to agree abit here Frisky...you have been flooding the forum alot vs Choker and been using multiple nicks
Suddenly you are against the same shit you have been pulling around here?
Eric will not change the rules, why waste your breath?

You are right about me trolling the last 3-4 days. Thats because i only use GFY for fucking around these days. Theres no use in using GFY as a professional platform anymore if you ask me. Any biz thread resorts in namecalling and fakenicks and random losers are attracted like flies to honey.

Its exactly THAT fact why some of us think it would be better to have a seperate forum. And again, i dont see it hurting someone, if it doesnt work it would be easy to remove it again.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Angry Jew Cat (Post 17733121)
You don't need to clean up the forum or change anything.

Just create the premium subforum and take good care of it. Leave everything else exactly how it is. That way you've given all the hardcore "industry only" whiners a place to go be amongst themselves without the FA&PD shitshow getting in their way. If they venture over to FA&PD and don't like what they see, fuck 'em. It would be nice to have one area where if you don't want to see the bullshit and want to hold a conversation with some halfway serious members, you can.

Exactly. Couldnt have said it better then that.:thumbsup

Quote:

Originally Posted by Paul Markham (Post 17733163)
Quoted for the truth.

Jack the solution is simple. Put those you think are trolls on ignore, including me if you think I'm a troll.

Then they won't bother you.

I dont think you are a troll paul. And believe me my ignore list grows bigger and bigger. But that doesnt change anything from the fact that if anyone posts a serious thread that gets visited by pesky trolls and trashers that have nothing better to do then ruin everyones biz no matter what it is or who it is whos posting it, people will be reading their replies because THEY dont have these fools on their ignore list.


Quote:

Originally Posted by arock10 (Post 17733203)
this shouldve been done years ago, too late now adult is dead

I guess it is. No wonder the adult is going down. To many fake ballers, to few people cooperating. And i dont blame anyone either, why cooperate or even try when every serious thread gets trashed by fools.

Eric can do whatever he wants. But it seems easy to just put up a seperate forum and keep it controlled.

quiet 11-28-2010 09:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jack Sparrow (Post 17733217)
Eric can do whatever he wants.

i'm sure he appreciates your approval.

Jack Sparrow 11-28-2010 09:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by quiet (Post 17733221)
i'm sure he appreciates your approval.

Im sure you understand what i was saying there.

baddog 11-28-2010 09:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jack Sparrow (Post 17732871)
Followup on this thread: https://gfy.com/showthread.php?t=999450 but with the best ideas put together.

1. Make a seperate section on GFY for serious bussiness people.
2. Make that seperate section a PAID section. $100 a year to get access to it.
3. Have serious identifaction: a) Whois check b) Automatic telephonenumber verification c) Automatic file verification (where said person uploads a personal html file that can be checked and verified.
4. Serious biz posts only, strict rules, no personal attacks, no trashing etc etc. Not following the rules is a sudden ban.

Following quote from jewcat says it all:

Do you ever read posts made by people like, say Eric? He just said the other day that GFY WILL NEVER charge. If it is that important to you, why don't you do like so many others and start your own forum? I mean, you seem to know how to make a successful forum, capitalize on it.

Jack Sparrow 11-28-2010 09:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by baddog (Post 17733229)
Do you ever read posts made by people like, say Eric? He just said the other day that GFY WILL NEVER charge. If it is that important to you, why don't you do like so many others and start your own forum? I mean, you seem to know how to make a successful forum, capitalize on it.

Well you same to be successful making photographs, does that mean you have to start your own forum?

Fun aside, those where 4-5 points some of us collected to see HOW we could have a seperate section. Charging a fee was just one of them, and not even my point made. If eric doesnt want to charge for it then so be it and we still have other valid points to slightly improve gfy for us biz folks.

baddog 11-28-2010 09:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jack Sparrow (Post 17733217)



Maybe the biggest as in "amounts of post". But you can count the REAL biz threads here on the fingers of one hand. There are forums that might be 90% smaller, but at least i know im doing biz with people IN the biz and without every bizthread resulting into a trashfest by people that have nothing lost here.

You really should remove your blinders for five minutes. You think the lack of business threads means no business is being done? Have you never attended a trade show?

Let me help you out. People are introduced on the show floor then seal the deal at the parties later. Now, substitute trade show for GFY. You sure spend a lot of time here for someone that considers it a waste of time.

I used to post on every adult board. I determined that was a waste of time. Did I complain about it and tell the board owners what they were doing wrong? No. I stopped posting at the boards that were a waste of my time.

Quote:

No offense. But it seems that there is more then enough interest for a platform on gfy that is not just about bullshit.


:1orglaugh Why not put together a list of those that think your idea holds water?

baddog 11-28-2010 09:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jack Sparrow (Post 17733232)
Well you same to be successful making photographs, does that mean you have to start your own forum?

Not sure what you are trying to say. I am not the one here whining about GFY. I don't need to start a forum just because I want to post photos. I create blogs, which people can join if they want, or they can just lurk.

AmeliaG 11-28-2010 09:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jack Sparrow (Post 17733217)

Maybe the biggest as in "amounts of post". But you can count the REAL biz threads here on the fingers of one hand. There are forums that might be 90% smaller, but at least i know im doing biz with people IN the biz and without every bizthread resulting into a trashfest by people that have nothing lost here.

No offense. But it seems that there is more then enough interest for a platform on gfy that is not just about bullshit.


I'd be perfectly happy to see more business getting done here. I'm something of a workaholic, so anywhere really.

I mean biggest in the sense that I'm most likely to get an answer to a tech question here, most likely to get a number of opinions on any company I'm considering doing business with here, most likely to get new affiliates if I post a SpookyCash content thread here.

I honestly feel that exclusionary tactics at the trade shows really messed up the affiliate business model. When all the guys who were doing promo for beer money got treated with contempt . . . they did go somewhere else. And now there are so many fewer affiliates. And losing that support structure knocked out some of the same ballers who were trying to make themselves feel big by making smaller affiliates feel small or telling them they had to suck up to get invited to some sausagefest party. Are we really better off for having a smaller pool of potential people to work with?

I have accounts on pretty much all of the industry forums, but GFY is always the one I check the most often. I think I'm fairly typical for a professional webmaster in this regard.

spazlabz 11-28-2010 09:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AmeliaG (Post 17733100)
There are industry folks who have been claiming not to take GFY seriously any more for years and yet they all have accounts here and it is still the biggest of the adult webmaster forums.

QFT :thumbsup

I can say this, when I get really active posting on GFY I do see an increase in new affiliates signing up. I do not use a tracking code in my links to Payserve so I do not know exactly how many are directly related to posting here but I suspect a lot of them see the posts here and click through to check out the program

Davy 11-28-2010 09:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Angry Jew Cat (Post 17732900)
fuck moving old threads, that is way too much work

I have moved old threads on my own forum. It's only 1/10th of the size of gfy, and it is a lot of work. But it is not impossible.
And you just won't get rid of the trolls if they are able to bump troll threads in the biz forum and vice versa.


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