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MindWaste 11-26-2010 07:05 PM

I figured out a bit why people whouldent stay to lisent to my songs i think...
 
I usually was making them about 3-5 minutes long so i decided to now make em about 1 minute to 2 mintues long.. tell me if ya agree.. you can dig up older longer songs and compare.. or go to youtube and go to my account name TrainSite.... but here is one i just made..



Jakez 11-26-2010 07:09 PM

Ghostwriter... maybe. You sound like Lil Wayne in 40 years.

What irks me more than you posting this garbage is that you don't spend this time on your website(s) making money so you can get out of whatever shitty situation you're in.

MindWaste 11-26-2010 07:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jakez (Post 17730834)
Ghostwriter... maybe. You sound like Lil Wayne in 40 years.

What irks me more than you posting this garbage is that you don't spend this time on your website(s) making money so you can get out of whatever shitty situation you're in.

I have no access to my web sites so i cant work on them.. and the ones i cant get pws back for were hacked down or somthing.. i have no tools i lost my laptop and my last hard drive.. so i have no tools here or ways to get into my web sites.. and promoting sites will pay far biggger with my raps when it starts to creep into comunitys on line..


i know some of you guys were kinda poking alot at me when i first got back but I was just trying to get back to a place i felt comfortable around and get something to start build.. plusss i was hoping some might take a intrest and help promote what i have as well.. All i need is one clean regular speed beat that i could own and make a song and put it on itunz and google mp3 single selling place or where ever.. then i could get some cross over like sex girl traffic from my m usic and blend it in with porn traffic that comes straight to my music and the other side to the porn parts..

d-null 11-26-2010 07:30 PM

you'd probably get more listeners if you had more cowbell

http://i.imgur.com/v5kYn.jpg

mgtarheels 11-26-2010 07:30 PM

To be completely honest, you need to work a lot on your flow. People aren't listening because of the flow, the quality, and can't understand a thing youre saying

MindWaste 11-26-2010 07:35 PM

Try listening to this one.. i was way more incontrol of myself and dident have so many people flying around my head i had a decent setup if you call what i had that.. basicly this song you can see how i can spit a freestyle one take on a beat and sell it...


Agent 488 11-26-2010 07:36 PM

it's because you suck and sound like shit.

MindWaste 11-26-2010 07:39 PM

WIth that earth falls song i own the domain EarthFalls.com and am willing 70k for it.. i heard i could get percentages to for what music ive put with the name on it to that whould promote around..

MindWaste 11-26-2010 07:48 PM

this song always shines up my day when i look at my pitiful self..


Jakez 11-26-2010 07:56 PM

Stop making excuses about how you can't run a website. If you are capable of recording vocals over a beat and uploading to youtube you are very capable of being able to run a website with ads. You could even make money off youtube videos if you couldn't afford hosting. Honestly, hang up the rap thing until you are at LEAST in a good financial situation because..

-No one can understand what you're saying.
-Even if I could understand what you're saying I'm sure you aren't saying anything creative or using any metaphors or anything else required for a good hip hop song.
-No flow. Ok you do KIND OF at least flow on the beat, but it's nothing special at all.
-The song quality is horrible and no one would ever buy it even if you were a talented rapper.

Every time you post I always reply putting you down and I'm sorry but I'm honestly just trying to talk some sense into you.

Jon Oso 11-26-2010 07:56 PM

Okay, I know I've talked a grip of shit in the past because I think you're a horrible mess of a joke but I'll give you some non-shit-talking constructive criticism right now.

First of all, I think there's a reason why you haven't gained the notoriety you're looking for. Or a few reasons, as it were.

1. You don't use your own beats. Anyone can freestyle to someone else's music. Create your own and go from there.

2. Nobody can understand what you're saying. I don't know WHY this is because honestly I don't read much of what you say, but if you're looking to make it big you need to fix that ASAP. Even if you're looking to make it small, fix it. Kanye West did the through the wire shit but you could still understand him.

3. Change your name. When I hear "T-Rain" I think T Pain, and then I just can't take you seriously. Your name is Traviss Solomon? Why not some variation of that, that doesn't spoof off another very well known performer's name?

T-Soul? Travesty? Just throwing stuff out there.



I also don't understand why you can't work on your sites or at least promote stuff as an affiliate without your laptop and hard drive? You are able to record lyrics onto your computer, mix it with music and upload it to youtube and I know for a fact that's more difficult than putting up a couple affiliate sites and making money that way to get out of your situation.


And with that said, I will no longer give you advice.

alias 11-26-2010 07:59 PM

Make some group home slut porn.

baddog 11-26-2010 08:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Agent 488 (Post 17730869)
it's because you suck and sound like shit.

More cowbell will help with that. :2 cents:

Jakez 11-26-2010 08:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jon Oso (Post 17730900)
1. You don't use your own beats. Anyone can freestyle to someone else's music. Create your own and go from there.

Sort of a good point, but chances are he can't get ahold of a decent beat without paying something, it would be better or easier to just flow over a popular instrumental and upload it to youtube with the original artist and song title with (t-rain remix) or (t-rain freestyle) attached to the end. Many people do this and get some exposure from people searching for the original song or remixes of it even, like Lil Wayne's A Milli for example, which was remix'd or freestyle'd over by probably hundreds of people.

And I totally agree about the T-Rain thing, T-Pain is pretty much a fucking joke and copying his stupid name is even worse, unoriginal, and will quickly prevent you from even getting a listen by many people even if you copied a name from a decent artist. You would be better off calling yourself Lil Rain or Young Rain.

Jon Oso 11-26-2010 08:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jakez (Post 17730912)
Sort of a good point, but chances are he can't get ahold of a decent beat without paying something, it would be better or easier to just flow over a popular instrumental and upload it to youtube with the original artist and song title with (t-rain remix) or (t-rain freestyle) attached to the end. Many people do this and get some exposure, like Lil Wayne's A Milli for example, which was remix'd or freestyled over be probably hundreds of people.

And I totally agree about the T-Rain thing, T-Pain is pretty much a fucking joke and copying his stupid name is even worse and unoriginal.

I got a demo copy of FL Studio for free from my friend's kid. Took about 10 minutes to install and even though I don't have a fucking clue how to use it and it's more of a play around with when I have the time thing, if he's dead serious about it I will personally ship him a copy of it so he can create his own beats.

Case in point about the using other people's music thing and a quick story -

I was in a band in high school. My high school put on a "Coffee House" which was an organized "open mic night" put on by the choir program to raise money. it was super hard to get into so we auditioned four songs. Three were originals and the fourth was wonderwall by oasis.

All three of our originals were chosen to be performed by us for the show, the cover was denied ... for being a cover. They enjoyed our original music WAY more than stuff we took from someone else (who at the time and even now Oasis was a huge band and nobody had heard of us lol) and made our own, much as MindWaste is doing.

Jakez 11-26-2010 08:26 PM

^But hip hop is a lot different than other genres, covers are almost non-existent but many artists can take someones instrumental and make it their own (better than the original). For example Kid Cudi mixed Lady Gaga's Poker Face song and then a ton of artists remix'd HIS version.

But again I do see your point.

MindWaste 11-26-2010 08:30 PM

Well to some it up a bit here I dont like to bring it to the fact that all my songs are FREESTYLE and no written word to them.. for instance try to watch this video .. all freestyle..

http://www.stickam.com/viewMedia.do?mId=184003438


I look like crap but i was way relaxed had a good beat and flowed like a bloody river...

the part about me needing to change my name is garbage.. I have been T-Rain over 12 plus years ago.. I had a few songs on the radio local and that i let die working in diffrent directions.. kinda like i do now.

The name Traviss Solomon is my real first and middle name.. Moreau is my step days last name and my real dad last name is pedigo..

T-RAin TRAviss Rain Means Seattle cuz it rains here and i changed my name to t-rain from the name t train someone gave me back in the day...

Si 11-26-2010 08:31 PM

You are either too dumb or too lazy to make it.

And I think you are too lazy..........

Caligari 11-26-2010 08:34 PM

Keeping to the shorter tunes is the way to go.

Really you're pretty much as good as any other rappers out there.

Si 11-26-2010 08:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MindWaste (Post 17730942)
Well to some it up a bit here I dont like to bring it to the fact that all my songs are FREESTYLE and no written word to them.. for instance try to watch this video .. all freestyle..

http://www.stickam.com/viewMedia.do?mId=184003438


I look like crap but i was way relaxed had a good beat and flowed like a bloody river...

the part about me needing to change my name is garbage.. I have been T-Rain over 12 plus years ago.. I had a few songs on the radio local and that i let die working in diffrent directions.. kinda like i do now.

The name Traviss Solomon is my real first and middle name.. Moreau is my step days last name and my real dad last name is pedigo..

T-RAin TRAviss Rain Means Seattle cuz it rains here and i changed my name to t-rain from the name t train someone gave me back in the day...

You have had a name for over 12 years and nobody knows who you are. You would get further using Mind Waste. Whenever i see your posts I know who it is "Mind Waste" not T-Rain.

Jon Oso 11-26-2010 08:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jakez (Post 17730936)
^But hip hop is a lot different than other genres, covers are almost non-existent but many artists can take someones instrumental and make it their own (better than the original). For example Kid Cudi mixed Lady Gaga's Poker Face song and then a ton of artists remix'd HIS version.

But again I do see your point.

I've got like 10 full CD's of different bands doing covers on my external hard drive.

There was a short kick with punk goes crunk, punk goes pop, etc.



this one was huuuuuuge. got a lot of play in the strip clubs too. as much as the original






etc. it's still being done, but you're right - hip hop gets "remixed" a LOT more than rock does.

Si 11-26-2010 08:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Caligari (Post 17730945)
Really you're pretty much as good as any other rappers out there.

:thumbsup

If not better than most........

Caligari 11-26-2010 08:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Si (Post 17730951)
:thumbsup

If not better than most........

u see the why
cuz u testify
all the crunk on the gfy
they may be right
they may be villified
but on the hole
they be glorified

WORD

:1orglaugh

DBS.US 11-26-2010 08:44 PM

You should try a dance mix:thumbsup

MindWaste 11-26-2010 08:50 PM

Do you guys know how much auto tone and other synths these rappers and also rock singers have now a days.. I am makeing a FREESTYLE from mic to speaker and voice all in one take....

If i was in a studio I whould go to my cousins studio... It was is the same studio Nirvana Recorded most of the Bleach album in..

My cousin is Chris Walla From Death Cab For Cutie...


OK also i have 2 jacks from me as well in the from LAdy gag Taking my Muffen part from her poker face song and brokensyde saying bang it girl bang it girl in this video right here..


Caligari 11-26-2010 08:54 PM

man now i know what tac town is...shit didnt realize it sea-tac seattle tacoma.

i hear its fucking cold up there about now

MindWaste 11-26-2010 08:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Caligari (Post 17730975)
man now i know what tac town is...shit didnt realize it sea-tac seattle tacoma.

i hear its fucking cold up there about now

Ya im out in puyallup we had a few inches of snow that stuck for a few days.. mostly gone now..

Caligari 11-26-2010 09:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MindWaste (Post 17730977)
Ya im out in puyallup we had a few inches of snow that stuck for a few days.. mostly gone now..

i remember puyallup, lived in bellingham for a long time made alot of trips down that way.

don't miss the weather though, it can be some depressing ass shit.

MindWaste 11-26-2010 09:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jon Oso (Post 17730950)
I've got like 10 full CD's of different bands doing covers on my external hard drive.

There was a short kick with punk goes crunk, punk goes pop, etc.



this one was huuuuuuge. got a lot of play in the strip clubs too. as much as the original






etc. it's still being done, but you're right - hip hop gets "remixed" a LOT more than rock does.

Are these a joke like a rapper actimg gay to get ahead.. cuz ive seen alot of that in the scen king/queen area of music.. other that or he is trying to be funny.. no way is this music better then mine ,not putting the muscians down but you whould have to make a serious studio from each band to compare.. my flow is way sicker and more original..

MindWaste 11-26-2010 09:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Caligari (Post 17730989)
i remember puyallup, lived in bellingham for a long time made alot of trips down that way.

don't miss the weather though, it can be some depressing ass shit.

My cousin from Death Cab For Cutie lived in belingham.. I just havent seen or talked to him in 10 or so years.. here is a solo song of his ...



Caligari 11-26-2010 09:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MindWaste (Post 17730993)
My cousin from Death Cab For Cutie lived in belingham.. I just havent seen or talked to him in 10 or so years.. here is a solo song of his ...



yep i remember death cab too, used to play alot up there.

really i spent as much time as possible in vancouver, canada.
one of the greatest cities on earth imo.

Zuzana Designs 11-26-2010 09:12 PM

Post the lyrics along with the songs so we know what you're saying. Keep on keeping on like Joe dirt said. Forget the haters.

Jon Oso 11-26-2010 09:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MindWaste (Post 17730990)
Are these a joke like a rapper actimg gay to get ahead.. cuz ive seen alot of that in the scen king/queen area of music.. other that or he is trying to be funny.. no way is this music better then mine ,not putting the muscians down but you whould have to make a serious studio from each band to compare.. my flow is way sicker and more original..

Those are famous bands covering famous songs.

I am beginning to believe you're delusional.

MindWaste 11-26-2010 09:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jon Oso (Post 17731013)
Those are famous bands covering famous songs.

I am beginning to believe you're delusional.

Just cuz they are famous dosent mean the song has to be the best song.. I wish i could show you guys how good i am.. someone should invite me to a convention and if they were rich pay my way unless i could save the 62 dollars i get a month to go to one and make a few songs in front of you guys.. noticing that i am being sarcast but those songs are studio made and made for a profecinal song.. meaning that they could have spent alot of money on them and they still suck.. i spend 5 minute to make a 5 minute song...

papill0n 11-26-2010 10:08 PM

some of the best freestyle I have heard

MindWaste 11-26-2010 11:09 PM

Here is one from the time i got back into the world with a dry place and internet and phone and cable tv... the girls at the voyer house at camsathome.com really let me come back to life with talking to them all day.. and i started making songs about them..


Agent 488 11-26-2010 11:19 PM

he the earth ball song is cool i take it back.

Jakez 11-26-2010 11:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MindWaste (Post 17730942)
Well to some it up a bit here I dont like to bring it to the fact that all my songs are FREESTYLE and no written word to them..

Which is why I gave you points for flow.

Quote:

Originally Posted by MindWaste (Post 17730942)
the part about me needing to change my name is garbage.. I have been T-Rain over 12 plus years ago.. I had a few songs on the radio local and that i let die working in diffrent directions.. kinda like i do now.

The name Traviss Solomon is my real first and middle name.. Moreau is my step days last name and my real dad last name is pedigo..

T-RAin TRAviss Rain Means Seattle cuz it rains here and i changed my name to t-rain from the name t train someone gave me back in the day...

Didn't know that, nice history on the name, keep it then.

Gambrinus 11-26-2010 11:33 PM

God damned Tacoma aroma. Ive lived everywhere from MountLakeTerrace to Lacey, Oly, Shelton. Graduated HS in Shelton as a matter of fact.

Angry Jew Cat - Banned for Life 11-26-2010 11:41 PM

any professional producer could autotune your shit, lay it over some big tracks, and put in mtv's top 10. just a matter of convincing one it's worth their time, lol.


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