15 Shocking US Poverty Statistics!
 

This is a non-partisan article. It evenly blames BOTH sides...

http://theeconomiccollapseblog.com/a...owly-wiped-out

there is so much of that article I wanted to copy and paste here but this is what I find the most profound and real

"But most Americans have become so "dumbed down" that they don't even understand what the real problems are anymore."

So fucking true!

God I know! It also seems that it is great entertainment for people who have no clue about the issues to rant, chant and tote signs

And thats why there is self proclaimed Tea Party people trying to put in "regular people" instead of "career criminals"

And why do you defend Obama when you should hate them all?

The Tea Party was an interesting idea, until it was taken over by the corporations. It is now AT LEAST as corrupt as the 2 party system it was designed to rail against.

Oh give me a fucking break, there are hundreds of individual chapters with their own leaders, there is no "organizational" structure for a corporation to even control. God you fucktards are brain washed.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tea_Party_movement

Because the Dems are the lesser of the 2 evils. Not by much, but enough to make a difference.

Overall the D's help the lower and middle classes more than the R's. The D's are mostly bought and paid for too, no doubt, but the R's are united against the lower and middle class, which is more destructive overall.

Ask yourselves, who is funding the Tea Party and the GOP right now?

When the largest and most corrupt corporations are shoveling BILLIONS of dollars into anti-Obama propaganda, then I will happily stick with Obama. Clearly he is upsetting the status quo enough, that they are fearful he truly intends to make changes, which they do not want.

If the American people were not so easily manipulated, they would understand this fact as well, but sadly they are, so for some reason, the very corporations that DO NOT HELP YOU, and WHO SHIP YOUR JOBS OVERSEAS, and WHO ARE DISMANTLING YOUR MIDDLE CLASS, have convinced many to vote against their own interests again, and in their favor of the wholly owned GOP again in November.

Both sides are bad, but one side is 100% evil, and the American people are too busy worrying what Snookie is doing, to understand what is really happening to them.

I'm afraid YOU are the brainwashed "fucktard" here, but feel free to perpetuate the blind stupidity that Fox has convinced you of.

Quite a few of them fight with each other. What hierarchy do they have?

I think most of them are nuts and too extreme, but I do think it's good to have something new every now and then shaking things up. I don't think it would be terrible having a few get elected, maybe make the D and R do something good for a change instead of building bridges to nowhere and namesake highways.

The "regular people" you speak of, are, for the most part, fringe lunatics.

Didn't realize how good I had it...

So this is what happens in a two party system...it's "dumbed down".

Fox news props up Republicans, they have one "tea party" like show with Glenn Beck, guess what... tea party people have backed their own chosen candidates against REPUBLICANS AND DEMOCRATS.

You are nothing but a sheeple, carry on with your fake outrage against poverty and the two party system because people like you ARE why the two party system works.

YUP, that right there is what it all boils down to.

Too extreme? See thats another picture the "media" paints, there is one "extreme" self proclaimed tea party person on TV, I can find hundreds of extreme Democrats and Republicans. Most tea party people are older white folks, what is extreme about Grandpa in his lawn chair bitching about government? Dont fall for the negative hype.

And people like you are the reason, why dont you fucking vote for an independent this election? I know you wont, I know you are in the Democrats pocket, they have trained you well.

With very few exceptions, the GOP is in lockstep opposition to the Dems, almost ENTIRELY for political reasons - and not for the good of the people.

The Tea Party is not out to find a common ground. It promotes fringe members who are way to the right of the right. This is designed to make sure that the 2 sides do not agree to anything in the future. If the D's cannot find common ground with center right politicians now, how do you think these new hires will play out in the future?

Can you name a few left of left Tea Party candidates? Think about it. If it was truly an angry American movement, would it not be more balanced?

The movement is corporate funded, as a last-ditch effort to derail progress.

We are being played. Wake the fuck up!

You are a tool. :2 cents:

Why? In 2008 Democrats won by a landslide. Democrats hailed it as the will of the American people, the American people "waking up" and demanding that Congress make radical changes immediately. They pushed through legislation as fast as they could, because the American people "had spoken." The only balance in 2008 was everyone was mad, very similar to now.

The Democrats were right. The American people did speak, they hated the Republicans. Now it's happening again. You can't use the argument one year and not expect it to come back on you the next. That's what's happening. Senior level aides are now even admitting that they overtouted the wins in 2008 and may have overplayed their hand.

The country (and even the world) may swerve right just a bit for awhile, but this isn't a referendum of the American people turning Republican. It's a whole bunch of pissed off people that don't know what else to do, just like it was two years ago.

If you jump left fast, there is going to be another big jump right fast. The two of them fighting back and forth will find some sort of balance. At least that's how it was designed...

These statistics don't surprise me.
What I thought the statistics would be is close to what they actually are.

I know this is not addressed to me however I think BFT3K and I agree on a few issues here

I have been disgusted by the Dems over the past year, I mean truly sickened by them. The Repubs I can actually understand, I disagree with them on just about every issue. I can honestly only think of one or maybe two that I agree with them on.

My outrage against poverty is most definitely not fake, it is real and it burns hot as hell in my soul. That does not mean that I support a 2 party system.

The fact is that what we have is a 2 party system. period. the dream of an independent party is just that, a dream. They will never get the financial backing that Repubs and Dems get...ever. And if they did, guess what, as soon as they went up for re-election they'd be just as corrupted as the stool samples that have been sitting in the House and Senate for multiple terms.

The only way to actually address corruption and harmful influence in our system is vigorous and comprehensive campaign finance reform

The USA has always been socially to the right of center since its creation why would a "popular" movement be to the left of left? Your definition of right of right is people who want a fiscally responsible government and fair tax laws and less socialism?

Your last statement makes no sense, derail "what" progress? Social progress?

the real problems are no jobs.
So how does a democratic lead senate and house and democratic president help the lower class people? In California, they can't get help with day care so they can go to their jobs right now.
You think that the democrats wrote the healthcare bill? It was written by big business and got the democratic stamp of approval, you think they even read it before signing it, all 2300 pages?

Funding the Tea Party? They have no power but the vote
Funding the GOP? They have no real power.
The democrats have been in power and control of the house and senate for 4 years, when did everything go to shit? During that 4 years, when did everything start to improve?

It's pretty lame to blame the Tea Party, when they aren't a party at all, or blame the GOP for doing what they can to keep the democrats from fucking things up even more than they already have. You want to blame jobs going over seas? Blame NAFTA, signed by a democratic president, even Hilary said during her campaign it was time to rewrite it.

We need a balance of power, having all one side doesn't work and have a group like the Tea Party keeping tabs on conservative principals will help with the economy. If the economy is doing better, then EVERYONE is doing better, what we have now is a joke

No one "jumped left fast" - it took 8 years of solid stupidity for people to change over. Now, in less than 2 years, people are ready to do it all over?

Remind me again, why the GOP should be voted back in power? Remind me again, of their "better plan" to help us out of the mess we're in?

They simply tell you Obama is bad - Obama is to blame - healthcare is not necessary - the rich need tax breaks - corporations do not need regulations, etc.

There is no change at all, and yet, we are asked to vote them back in... because OBAMA caused the problems we are in?!

PLEEEEASE!

You cannot seriously mean what was said in the last part of that paragraph....pushed through legislation as fast as they could??? did you watch the news? The republicans fought them on every single piece of legislation that came up completely abusing the procedural process to try and kill anything and everything the dems brought up (you know they blocked appointments for fucks sake! Just enough to make them take a lot more time then usual just to gum up the works... now thats working in America's best interest for ya)

what was managed to be passed was so watered down and weak it made no difference at all and even now the republicans are vowing to defund shit that was passed as soon as they get into power.

The belief that the democrats managed to accomplish anything is a lie both parties are telling to push their own political agendas. The Rs want to say he did this and did that and its killing the economy and the Ds are saying we did this and we did that so they look more effectual then they ever were

If you are truly an intelligent, open-minded person, please read this article, and then come back and discuss how the Tea Party is not wholly funded by Obama hating corporations...

http://www.nytimes.com/2010/08/29/opinion/29rich.html

Again the two party system exists because people like you have chosen to vote for the "lesser of two evils" instead of voting for someone you believe will accurately represent you. So why do you even vote at all, YOU are the enabler for these criminals.

Absolutely agree, do you honestly think any Democrat or Republican majority will pass that? That is why we need regular folks in Washington, push them to get it passed and that will stop the chain of major corruption. There will always be traces of corruption but nothing like the wholesale pillage we have of America now.

In short according to your statement... you have given up. :2 cents:

They always block appointments. Both sides do. And of course the bills were watered down, that's the point of the two-party system. Giving any one party total control would have very powerful bills that would certainly not be the "will of the people."

You surely don't want a Republican president, Senate, and House to have full control over writing bills, do you?

The Democrats are right. They pushed a lot of legislation through, fast. Landmark legislation at that. Is it exactly what they wanted? Of course not, but again, that's how the system was designed. Their problem is their message. They campaigned and pushed and shoved for this legislation and nobody even understands what it is.

It's amazing to me that they created such a focused message during the campaign, but cannot create any sort of message saying what they did or didn't do.

An propaganda opinion piece in the LIBERAL New York Times, you are fooling no one BFT3K. That piece is the equivalent as saying all Muslims are extremists because they send money to Palestinian charities. Just stop you are making a fool of yourself.

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Absolutely

wanna know why? The Supreme Court ruled that corporations have the same rights as individuals when it comes to campaign contributions.

in short, we lost and it will be at least another 25 years before the court can be shifted more towards the center.

Oh they got their message across, but the MAJORITY OF AMERICANS DONT LIKE IT. What part of that dont you understand? This is WHY the Democrats have so many problems legislating because they go AGAINST THE MAJORITY OF AMERICANS.

People didnt vote them in there to slowly turn America into France.

Are you really using an opinion piece in a liberal newspaper as your source?

That's hardly "open-minded." If you can't accept that it's obviously going to have a slant, you need to work on your own "open-mindedness."

The opinion piece could be 100% correct. Just don't say that's what open-minded people read.

Yes that ruling shocked me and I am very pro-business but that was just a disgusting ruling. :2 cents:

The speed in which you replied to this shows that you did not read the article at all. You have a one-sided viewpoint, and you are unwilling to even TRY to get a balance on things.

You are the epitome of "unfair and unbalanced".

Of course I didn't read it. I'm commenting on your statement of it being a great source of open-minded information, an article no less. It's an opinion piece.

If I quote an opinion piece from the Wall Street Journal as a great article of facts that any open-minded person should read and understand... what's your reply?

LOL and then you label me unfair and unbalanced?

I have liberals and conservative nuts arguing with me in the same thread.

Am I really that unbalanced?

well then we agree on that, you might not agree with what I am about to say so I am not trying to put words in your mouth

it is my opinion that because of that ruling the Court has protected the status quo for at least the next quarter of a century unless some massively drastic change occurs and I dont see that happening, I mean a huge peoples movement that would put enough votes in the House and Senate that could actually write and pass a Constitutional Amendment that would take down that ruling.

I do not have a glimmer of a hope of that ever taking place and most especially in the current political climate where it appears to be fun for one side to berate the other and not even pretend to be willing to compromise... and I do not care which side is doing the berating and being uncompromising, they are voted in to work for us and right now, they are not

Translation 1: I am too brainwashed by Fox to allow myself freedom of thought.

Translation 2: I am too lazy to bother reading a one page article.

Translation 3: I am not intelligent enough to acknowledge what is actually going on.

Please tell us which 3rd party candidate you will be voting for, oh wise one, since you are so capable of making grandiose political changes in the current system.