Why are so many programs dying off?
 

So what do you think? :2 cents:

It takes a lot more than being BRO and playing the traffic numbers game in 2010.

Nice poll :)

Only so many times u can shoot a bitch on a fucking couch in porn vallery exclusive or not its the same goddamn video lol its burned out :)

From what I can tell, it appears the more recent bigger programs closing all quit updating long ago and surprising had less exclusive content than I thought. You can't complete in todays market if you're not at least updating.

huge pps is a good part of the reason shit is the way it is now... imo...

...I think that is a part, but not all, JD!

because they afraid loosing money now ;)

And you can find it for free at any tube site.


The consumer can get fair to good quality content for free and never have to worry about getting his card banged out.


He can type in the search bar girls name, or type of porn he or she likes and never enter in a user name and pass word. Why would he want to pay? Its gonna slow him down from his goal, which is to get off, now!


Serious innovation that the tube sites cant rip easy. Im thinking 3D is gonna be the next thing to make money as long as porn people dont fuck it up as they do everything else.:2 cents:

Shouldn't the answer options also include the recent VISA/MC term changes?

No, all they really did was prevent grey zones and direct fraud the way i see it

IMHO this has a LOT to do with a combination of things...ill list a few ovious ones only as im tire and on my way out ....

1. Programs started carding, cheating and scamming HARD
2. People started to realyze
3. Tubes came arround so unless you have a VERY specific reason to BUY porn a LOT of surfers are taking the safe free porn although its not GREAT quality

Did somebody count how many jobless people are out there today?

Good points, Loch.

It was the PERFECT STORM. Before tubes, surfers had to put up with the carding/card banging shenanigans.

There were many jobless in 2000-2002 as well but paysites didn't die off. No tubes back then though.

"a lot of programs should have done manual webmaster approval a long time ago"

All I have to say about this

Because no more cross-sales means they can't scam surfers for extra profits.

Tubes saved the surfers CC worries.....how damn ironic huh

So who is really the bad guy here :winkwink:

Add a new option:

"Because you can't pretend to make money trying to sell something that is available for free everywhere"

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I sell to loyal & legal clients every day.
Sorry if you dont have the right clients, but your statement does not make sense.

The tubes have a LOT, but there is also a LOT that they do not have

except adult profit, is there any other program that closes doors and will be really missed? i mean program with real sites, not some weg with members areas looking worst that some shitty free site ... i see only crap closing, but i see quality sites with quality material are born daily ... lets cry people, it is still not enough ... i can also cut my legs and then cry that i cannot run ... cry people cry and dont forget to cry with doing nothing, it will make the best effect ...

I miss the gay raindeer :(

Fun to see the results right now.

I think they do it to stay alive.. But from our experience, the affiliates are what keeps this business alive..

Everyone is held captive to the same ole same old. It's a time tested tradition - adapt or die. I'm offering program owners custom exclusive content 2 for 1 and none of the biggies that are going under contacted me. How stupid. Why is everyone glued to the bro system? $1200 for the girl, $600 for the guy, $500 for the same porn studio or porn location, and $100 to an agent who doesn't want this all to change. It's still the same scenes, same talent all shot the same way. How fuckin boring! And this is exactly what the surfer thinks. STOP making the same old egg salad and selling it as "The new thing" everyone knows it's been all over the rooster cage and in the sun!!! And mayo on a hot day will kill ya! Yeah, you got your STARS... but those are STARS!!! The top 2%. Day players need to be replaced, they were only here for the money and now we see them counting ceiling tiles in the middle of the ooh's & Ah's because they didn't get "Thier $900 rate" that they once did when they were brand new. Every day some new hot girl turns 18 and wants to make some quick, easy money... and every day some guy is sick of his same old porn collection and wants something (and someone) new to jerk off to. Put the 2 together, it's your job. Or go work at Home Depot.

It was 3-4 programmes who practically killed consumer confidence.

once a program of consequence goes down, start another poll.

And this applies to most of the DVD industry as well.

Most programs/distributors refuse to pay the price it costs to shoot something better. The great shooters from the past have left or thinking of leaving. Because they made enough money in the good times or will make more money shooting weddings at the weekend than most shooters make in a week doing custom.

It costs money and takes real talent to shoot something innovative. You don't get that for a cut price deal.

I chose the lack of innovation from programs. Because I see so little of it from them. They continue to have sites that have changed little in the last 10 years. Other than some getting bigger and having HD what has changed?

Unless paysites change and become something the consumer wants to sign up to the decline will continue.

And please don't blame free porn. The last thing that keeps Tubes sites alive is people who don't spend money on the Internet. They make a profit from people BUYING STUFF ON THE INTERNET. People we seem to have lost the ability to sell to.

Every program that has closed up shop so far was a pile of shit. Adult Profit was nice but we all know in reality celebrity sites are shit.

They are not innovative enough.

Too much free content...

WAY too much FREE fucking content!

Some are in trouble but I think you will find some are just using the "current economic environment" to ditch affiliate programs and keep more of the money in house.

That's preposterous. The bottled water companies do it every single day and are making billions selling you the exact same thing you can get from your tap for free at any time.

too much free content, sponsors getting lazy etc etc etc

The program owners are the only ones who pay for content which has been
made almost worthless by copyright violators.

It's hard to make a living by continuing to invest in product that becomes worthless
within 72 hours of release.

End of Story.

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Because some people in this industry just simply don't know how to run a business.

Because of the fucking tubes, which btw are thriving?

I am in total agreement with you.

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