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brassmonkey 06-25-2010 05:04 PM

Az business raid
 
"Arizona's sweeping new immigration law doesn't even take effect until next month, but lawmakers in nearly 20 other states are already clamoring to follow in its footsteps."
clean this bitch up! :pimp

EL MIRAGE and YOUNGTOWN, Ariz. -- Maricopa County sheriff's deputies on Friday morning converged on two business locations -- one in El Mirage and another in Youngtown -- as part of an investigation into possibly identity theft and fraud.

The first raid happened at a sanitation company owned by Parks & Sons of Sun City. That business is located near U.S. 60 and Thunderbird Road. That location is the company's maintenance yard.

Between 40 and 50 deputies and posse members armed with search warrants descended on the facility early Friday morning.

Aerial video showed deputies going into and out of the building, several of them carrying what appeared to be evidence bags.

The Maricopa County Sheriff's Office reportedly received a couple of anonymous tips from workers several months ago indicating that the company employed suspected undocumented immigrants who had used stolen identities or false documents to get their jobs. The company has been under investigation for about six months.

Deputies said they were looking for seven suspected illegal immigrants. Those seven people have been taken into custody, including one who reportedly jumped over a fence in an effort to get away, said Sheriff Joe Arpaio.



The family of one of the men taken into custody said the father of six had worked at Parks & Sons for 15 years. They believe the sheriff's raids are unfair and target people who are just trying to make a living.

Investigators talked to about 40 other employees at the El Mirage location.

"We have information on seven [suspects], but there's a few others we don't have information on," Arpaio said. "They're still here illegally. We'll deal with them."

The other raid location was in Youngtown near Grand and 111th avenues. That is the main office of Parks & Sons of Sun City, which employs about 100 people and has been doing business in the Valley since 1964.

Deputies said the raid was going smoothly and everybody was cooperating. Arpaio said his team was trying to determine if Parks & Sons knowingly hire the suspected illegal immigrants.

"We accomplish our mission by taking off the streets people that committed Class 4 felonies by using other peoples' identification," Arpaio said. "That should be the big story. ... What about the false identification they [the suspects] are using? That's why we're number one in the nation for ... stealing peoples' identities. ... Most of them [the suspects], either they steal someone's Social Security number and use those, and you know how it is when y our ID is stolen, how long it takes to get that rectified."

Some say that having 40 to 50 deputies and posse members involved in the raid was a waste of resources. Arpaio vehemently disagreed.

"Why does everybody talk about me using resources?" he asked. "Actually, I should have had more out here because we had people escape. I should have put more people out here. I don't care about the critics. I know how to run this organization."

MCSO has conducted dozens of raids like this morning's operation since the employer sanctions law went into effect.

"This is our 36th investigation, going into workplaces," Arpaio said. "One hundred percent of the people we arrest, almost, are here illegally."

Arpaio said his office has "a list" of businesses currently under investigation for allegedly employing suspected undocumented immigrants.

According to MCSO, two of the suspect taken into custody Friday morning are suspected of committing identity theft. One was wanted on an outstanding warrant.

The remains four suspects were suspected of being in the country illegally and were turned over to ICE. That process will soon change with the imminent implementation of Senate Bill 1070, due to go into effect on July 29. Arpaio said he's looking forward to that.

"With the new law, I'm going to put them in jail. They're not going to be turned over to ICE," Arpaio said. "I will enforce that new law because it gives me the authority now to arrest those that we have no other crime on."

MCSO said the investigation into Parker & Sons will continue as sheriff's deputies are looking for several other employees suspected of committing identity theft.

Hawkeye 06-25-2010 05:15 PM

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Originally Posted by brassmonkey (Post 17280064)
"They're coming here to arrest people that are here working..how come he doesn't go to the border and or to somewhere to arrest criminals,” said Maria Ruiz, the wife of a Parks & Sons employee who was taken in by deputies.

“People that are on the streets. I have six kids! So what's gonna happen now?"

Hopefully your illegal ass will be dragged back to Mexico where you belong.

Vendzilla 06-25-2010 05:21 PM

I see that Obama put a new guy in charge of ICE that's for sanctuary cities.

What a fucking joke that is?

brassmonkey 06-25-2010 05:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hawkeye (Post 17280077)
Hopefully your illegal ass will be dragged back to Mexico where you belong.

amen brother. the jobs are drying up and hopefully we can get the law in every state. :)

Sly 06-25-2010 05:22 PM

I would think that 15 years should be enough time to attain legal status.

brassmonkey 06-25-2010 05:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vendzilla (Post 17280084)
I see that Obama put a new guy in charge of ICE that's for sanctuary cities.

What a fucking joke that is?

there will be no sanctuary in Az. i think its time to attack the belly of the beast california. this shit is just wrong.

IllTestYourGirls 06-25-2010 05:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Sly (Post 17280087)
I would think that 15 years should be enough time to attain legal status.

Hard to get legal status when you are already breaking the law :2 cents:

But yeah, if he started off right, he very well could have gotten legal status in that time.

Elli 06-25-2010 05:34 PM

50 deputies and how many man hours to arrest 7 people? Why don't they just come down on employers harder to make sure there are no jobs for illegals? Oh wait, that's anti-business.

charlie g 06-25-2010 05:41 PM

Dude has 6 children and was a garbage man? Tell me they are living not on government assistance. I have 2 children and I am almost there and I make a helluva lot more than a garbage man.

brassmonkey 06-25-2010 05:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Elli (Post 17280110)
50 deputies and how many man hours to arrest 7 people? Why don't they just come down on employers harder to make sure there are no jobs for illegals? Oh wait, that's anti-business.

these are felony arrest it can turn ugly quick.

Elli 06-25-2010 05:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by brassmonkey (Post 17280136)
these are felony arrest it can turn ugly quick.

"Arpaio said his office has "a list" of businesses currently under investigation for allegedly employing suspected undocumented immigrants.

According to MCSO, two of the suspect taken into custody Friday morning are suspected of committing identity theft. One was wanted on an outstanding warrant.

The remaining four suspects were suspected of being in the country illegally and were turned over to ICE"

Only 2 were wanted on identity theft charges. NO mention of fines to the employer or other deterrents. What stops them from hiring more illegals? If they end up getting arrested, the company just doesn't have to send them a final cheque, right? More free/cheap labour for them!

Rochard 06-25-2010 06:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Sly (Post 17280087)
I would think that 15 years should be enough time to attain legal status.

Fuck no. It should earn them a prison sentence. That's fifteen years of not paying taxes, driving illegally, being here illegally, driving without insurance, etc etc etc etc. Someone who has been in the US fifteen years illegally has broken so many laws it's not funny.

Rochard 06-25-2010 06:02 PM

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Originally Posted by charlie g (Post 17280121)
Dude has 6 children and was a garbage man? Tell me they are living not on government assistance. I have 2 children and I am almost there and I make a helluva lot more than a garbage man.

Average starting pay for a garbage man in California is $60k a year.

IllTestYourGirls 06-25-2010 06:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Rochard (Post 17280156)
Fuck no. It should earn them a prison sentence. That's fifteen years of not paying taxes, driving illegally, being here illegally, driving without insurance, etc etc etc etc. Someone who has been in the US fifteen years illegally has broken so many laws it's not funny.

Thats not how I understood what he said. I took it as if he had done it legally he could have been legal by now. But I could be totally wrong :1orglaugh

Sly 06-25-2010 06:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rochard (Post 17280156)
Fuck no. It should earn them a prison sentence. That's fifteen years of not paying taxes, driving illegally, being here illegally, driving without insurance, etc etc etc etc. Someone who has been in the US fifteen years illegally has broken so many laws it's not funny.

Take a deep breathe and read again.

charlie g 06-25-2010 06:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rochard (Post 17280158)
Average starting pay for a garbage man in California is $60k a year.

:( 6 KIDS!!!!!!! Unless they are living in a box or he sneaks them back across the border to work in a Nike plant, chances are they have their hand out.

And, average pay in AZ is 32k link

JFK 06-25-2010 06:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rochard (Post 17280156)
Fuck no. It should earn them a prison sentence. That's fifteen years of not paying taxes, driving illegally, being here illegally, driving without insurance, etc etc etc etc. Someone who has been in the US fifteen years illegally has broken so many laws it's not funny.

and how do you know he has'nt paid taxes and everything else in the mean time ?? He's doing a job most people in your country wouldnt want to do !!! This whole illegal immigration thing, is a pile of steaming BULLSHIT !!!:2 cents:

Sly 06-25-2010 06:41 PM

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Originally Posted by JFK (Post 17280216)
and how do you know he has'nt paid taxes and everything else in the mean time ?? He's doing a job most people in your country wouldnt want to do !!! This whole illegal immigration thing, is a pile of steaming BULLSHIT !!!:2 cents:

Yeh, I have no idea why they think it's such an issue. Arizona doesn't even border Mexico. Now if Texas were to pass a law like this, that would be worth a second look. Bordering state and all.

brassmonkey 06-25-2010 06:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sly (Post 17280219)
Arizona doesn't even border Mexico.

http://www.lonelyplanet.com/maps/nor..._of_mexico.jpg
what are you smoking? crabs perhaps :1orglaugh

Sly 06-25-2010 06:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by brassmonkey (Post 17280237)
http://www.lonelyplanet.com/maps/nor..._of_mexico.jpg
what are you smoking? crabs perhaps :1orglaugh

I voted for Peggy West.

https://youtube.com/watch?v=3ZEv1T15RcY

Redrob 06-25-2010 06:57 PM

Big article in newspaper today about illegals packing up and leaving AZ. Most seem to be headed to California and New Mexico; but, the are definitely getting out of town.

Ron Bennett 06-25-2010 06:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sly (Post 17280219)
Yeh, I have no idea why they think it's such an issue. Arizona doesn't even border Mexico. Now if Texas were to pass a law like this, that would be worth a second look. Bordering state and all.

Arizona is is border state. Has 370 miles of border with Mexico.

In regards to the raids ... it's all show.

If the government (talking both state and federal) was serious about immigration, they would go after employers with massive fines and stiff prison sentences.

Ron

brassmonkey 06-25-2010 07:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ron Bennett (Post 17280247)
Arizona is is border state. Has 370 miles of border with Mexico.

In regards to the raids ... it's all show.

If the government (talking both state and federal) was serious about immigration, they would go after employers with massive fines and stiff prison sentences.

Ron

well now is time to count the money decades of republican bullshitting regan and amnesty. :disgust

TheDoc 06-25-2010 07:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ron Bennett (Post 17280247)
Arizona is is border state. Has 370 miles of border with Mexico.

In regards to the raids ... it's all show.

If the government (talking both state and federal) was serious about immigration, they would go after employers with massive fines and stiff prison sentences.

Ron

Try watching the video... he was making a funny, https://youtube.com/watch?v=3ZEv1T15RcY

mozadek 06-25-2010 07:17 PM

Welcome to Obama's America.

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_y8SPNbAAKo...lf-Hitler.jpeg

http://fserv.growingbolder.com/0/0/190/190574-450.jpg

brassmonkey 06-25-2010 07:20 PM

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Originally Posted by TheDoc (Post 17280263)
Try watching the video... he was making a funny, https://youtube.com/watch?v=3ZEv1T15RcY

the people that elected her are fucking dumb asses. :1orglaugh my kids know that Az borders mexico :1orglaugh lord i hope she doesnt have kids!

what are those things on south park those goofy creatures

http://www.skool.us/files/new/TheJakovasaurs.gif

:thumbsup

brassmonkey 06-25-2010 07:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mozadek (Post 17280274)

if you think obama started this your crazy.:2 cents: the bush family have been war happy fools. what countries has obama invaded? pick up a book :helpme

Nikki_Licks 06-26-2010 07:15 AM

Good to hear, go Joe :thumbsup

I was down by 36th st and Thomas area the other day and all the scum that use to trash the neighborhood and Home depot are all gone to include their broken down autos.....even the trashy apartments are repainted and have for lease signs up.

Maybe California will welcome them with open arms :1orglaugh:1orglaugh

Agent 488 06-26-2010 07:18 AM

cool. next send all the blacks back to africa.

DBS.US 06-26-2010 08:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sly (Post 17280219)
Arizona doesn't even border Mexico.

http://www.cftech.com/BrainBank/GEOG...ps/Arizona.jpg

MetaMan 06-26-2010 08:37 AM

Good send them back!

took my dad 15 years to become a citizen.

Amputate Your Head 06-26-2010 09:59 AM

"One hundred percent of the people we arrest, almost, are here illegally."

Is it 100% or is it "almost" ?

I hope the people wrongfully arrested for simply going to work sue them for every dime they can.

brassmonkey 06-26-2010 11:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Amputate Your Head (Post 17280977)
"One hundred percent of the people we arrest, almost, are here illegally."

Is it 100% or is it "almost" ?

I hope the people wrongfully arrested for simply going to work sue them for every dime they can.

he didnt say almost i watched the live interview. that's the thing it's called an investigation. if illegals stop working here we wont have a fucking problem. :mad: :mad:

Dvae 06-26-2010 12:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sly (Post 17280219)
Yeh, I have no idea why they think it's such an issue. Arizona doesn't even border Mexico. Now if Texas were to pass a law like this, that would be worth a second look. Bordering state and all.

In Obamas United States there are 58 states.(He said he's been to 57 and 1 to go)
Possibly one or more of those is between AZ and Mexico

brassmonkey 06-26-2010 12:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Agent 488 (Post 17280768)
cool. next send all the blacks back to africa.

pick up a book blacks are not illegals(in the country illegally). their ancestors were released as slaves in the united states.

Dvae 06-26-2010 12:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sly (Post 17280242)
I voted for Peggy West.


Damn, Sly look at the can worms you opened! I guess they don't get the sarcasm.
Some people don't get out much.

smax 06-26-2010 01:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Elli (Post 17280110)
50 deputies and how many man hours to arrest 7 people? Why don't they just come down on employers harder to make sure there are no jobs for illegals? Oh wait, that's anti-business.


The government absolutely needs to to come down hard on businesses that hire illegals but first they need to set up a system for employers to verify potential employers are legal.

Sure some businesses knowingly hire illegals and pay under the table and then there are those that take the fake documents and don't know better. With photoshop, laser printers do you think Flo in HR can tell the difference between a fake document and a real one.

Hell just make social security flag and investigate all duplicate or wrong SS#'s being turned in via company tax records.

erehwon 06-26-2010 01:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by charlie g (Post 17280187)
:( 6 KIDS!!!!!!! Unless they are living in a box or he sneaks them back across the border to work in a Nike plant, chances are they have their hand out.[/URL]

You should see some of the orthodox Jewish families around here, they drive around in Dodge Sprinter vans with their whole brood, don't seem to be living in a box, and there's no borders around here.

brassmonkey 06-26-2010 02:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by smax (Post 17281209)
The government absolutely needs to to come down hard on businesses that hire illegals but first they need to set up a system for employers to verify potential employers are legal.

Sure some businesses knowingly hire illegals and pay under the table and then there are those that take the fake documents and don't know better. With photoshop, laser printers do you think Flo in HR can tell the difference between a fake document and a real one.

Hell just make social security flag and investigate all duplicate or wrong SS#'s being turned in via company tax records.

these businesses are not dumb. If your employee can't hold a conversation with you, that's a red flag right there.

V_RocKs 06-26-2010 03:17 PM

this has nothing to do with the new law... these raids go on in LA all day long... They even go on in Ohio and northern states where people go to try and escape the raids.


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