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babymaker 06-20-2010 10:54 AM

So Be Honest How Many People Are Thinking Of Quitting The Biz Soon??
 
So how many are realizing this shit is pretty much over and plan to quit or just let shit run on auto pilot while you do somthing else?


Probably most of you will post things have never been better and you are having the best month of your career and post a pic of your new mercedes lol :winkwink:

DEA - banned for life 06-20-2010 10:56 AM

lolllz....http://media-files.gather.com/images...96/f3/full.jpg

babymaker 06-20-2010 10:57 AM

Just for fun i added an anoymous poll :) Need to get this board going never seen it so dead same posts have been on 1st page for 2 days lol wtf :D

babymaker 06-20-2010 11:01 AM

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Originally Posted by DEA (Post 17264838)

Which gfy nick is that lol :1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

I suck at hand coding or maybe i would go outside with a sign :D

:Oh crap

Amputate Your Head 06-20-2010 11:02 AM

I am actively looking for alternatives. When I settle on one I'm happy with, whether that's a month from now or a year from now... I will vanish without a trace. The adult biz has been eating itself for years. It's run by mostly immature college-minded "make money fast" types and no one gives an actual shit about the industry as long as they get their cut.

That's not an environment I want to spend the rest of my life in. But that's just me. :2 cents:

babymaker 06-20-2010 11:07 AM

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Originally Posted by Amputate Your Head (Post 17264852)
I am actively looking for alternatives. When I settle on one I'm happy with, whether that's a month from now or a year from now... I will vanish without a trace. The adult biz has been eating itself for years. It's run by mostly immature college-minded "make money fast" types and no one gives an actual shit about the industry as long as they get their cut.

That's not an environment I want to spend the rest of my life in. But that's just me. :2 cents:

Good point, I am doing the same been reading a lot of things online seeing what people are doing in other areas of internet marketing, some interesting stuff, but not sure what I will do yet, or maybe go back to offline work in some kind of distribution.

fuzebox 06-20-2010 11:15 AM

I work hard, and sales come in. Why quit?

Scott McD 06-20-2010 11:31 AM

Will still be around as long as money can be made. I have other things on the go just now aswell as adult, so i have a back-up plan if you want to call it that...

rabbit 06-20-2010 11:50 AM

if most of your adult revenue is generated by 1 or 2 websites, let's talk i might be interested in picking them up...

Agent 488 06-20-2010 11:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Amputate Your Head (Post 17264852)
I am actively looking for alternatives. When I settle on one I'm happy with, whether that's a month from now or a year from now... I will vanish without a trace. The adult biz has been eating itself for years. It's run by mostly immature college-minded "make money fast" types and no one gives an actual shit about the industry as long as they get their cut.

That's not an environment I want to spend the rest of my life in. But that's just me. :2 cents:

you really think other industries are any different? go read a newspaper and come back.

The Porn Nerd 06-20-2010 12:31 PM

I plan on being around for years since every month has been an increase for me. But then again, my network is only 18 months old. Maybe when I "level off" I'll look for other shit to do - unless by "level off" I mean a shitload of cashola. Heh heh.

But basically, I AM thinking of diversifying and launching some mainstream projects. never a good idea to have all your eggs in one basket, eh?

$5 submissions 06-20-2010 12:45 PM

Transitioning or DIVERSIFYING into mainstream? Check out my sig to see how we can help you :)

Nathan 06-20-2010 12:48 PM

Can not post original since I have to wait till mid next year :/ waiting lists suck

http://www.mercedes-benz.de/content/...68_06-2010.jpg

Nicky 06-20-2010 12:51 PM

I ain't going nowhere.

sortie 06-20-2010 12:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Nathan (Post 17265031)
Can not post original since I have to wait till mid next year :/ waiting lists suck

http://www.mercedes-benz.de/content/...68_06-2010.jpg


Translation : I made 3 sales yesterday for the very first time so I'm going to be rich soon.

:1orglaugh

BlackCrayon 06-20-2010 12:55 PM

qutting? hell no.. diversify..of course.

babymaker 06-20-2010 01:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sortie (Post 17265042)
Translation : I made 3 sales yesterday for the very first time so I'm going to be rich soon.

:1orglaugh

:winkwink::thumbsup

babymaker 06-20-2010 01:03 PM

:thumbsup
Quote:

Originally Posted by MisterPeabody (Post 17265011)
I plan on being around for years since every month has been an increase for me. But then again, my network is only 18 months old. Maybe when I "level off" I'll look for other shit to do - unless by "level off" I mean a shitload of cashola. Heh heh.

But basically, I AM thinking of diversifying and launching some mainstream projects. never a good idea to have all your eggs in one basket, eh?

Curious how you keep the pirates at bay so your product does not become worthless? You must have a good system in place

NetHorse 06-20-2010 01:11 PM

Quit? No. Making it a part time gig. Yes. I want to make a lot more money than what I'm currently earning in adult, but that doesn't mean I will completely quit. I'm venturing more into mainstream, but I will never sell off my adult sites.

notime 06-20-2010 01:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by babymaker (Post 17264833)
you are having the best month of your career and post a pic of your new mercedes lol :winkwink:

My dealer invoicing me 6K for repairs to my MB the last few weeks, that kind of sucks IMO.

Nathan 06-20-2010 01:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sortie (Post 17265042)
Translation : I made 3 sales yesterday for the very first time so I'm going to be rich soon.

:1orglaugh

You got me! :/

Marcus Aurelius 06-20-2010 01:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Amputate Your Head (Post 17264852)
The adult biz has been eating itself for years. It's run by mostly immature college-minded "make money fast" types and no one gives an actual shit about the industry as long as they get their cut.

any other industry or business isn't any different

eastwood 06-20-2010 01:33 PM

Theres still more then enough money to be made.
The thing is people now have to work hard for it. Or better said: Have to work more hours to get the same results. The thing is, webmasters are lazy animals. Most of us are stuck in the 90's where we could put up ANY simple landingpage and money would come running in like water. I dont think i can ever make the same amounts with a regular job as im doing with the online business.

Be smart, keep up with new technologies. Work hard. Smile to the bank.

The Porn Nerd 06-20-2010 01:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by babymaker (Post 17265059)
:thumbsup

Curious how you keep the pirates at bay so your product does not become worthless? You must have a good system in place


Well, yes I have protection on my Server, use various programs to "catch" anyone downloading huge amounts of content at once, etc etc. But as everyone on here knows: you can't completely stop a motivated pirate. Sorry Robbie, Stickyfingerz et al, it can't be done 100% (and I'm not even saying those guys are saying that, just that they're some of the biggest proponents of stopping piracy).

ANYway: I only worry about what I can control, and then analyze how much it's worth to control X. I send out DMCA's and have employed services to do so but basically I concentrate on new sources of traffic and new sales so the growth has been continual. Hope that answers your question. LOL

woj 06-20-2010 01:43 PM

I'm not planning to quit anytime soon :thumbsup

notime 06-20-2010 01:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by eastwood (Post 17265118)
Theres still more then enough money to be made.
The thing is people now have to work hard for it. Or better said: Have to work more hours to get the same results.

I would agree here on this. For it is true from my point of perspective.

bdld 06-20-2010 02:01 PM

i'm glad people are leaving, more piece of the pie for me.

sortie 06-20-2010 03:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bdld (Post 17265173)
i'm glad people are leaving, more piece of the pie for me.

:1orglaugh

You sound like a shit-eating-dog grinning over the last 3 turds.


:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

Amputate Your Head 06-20-2010 03:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Marcus Aurelius (Post 17265095)
any other industry or business isn't any different

Then you have been in the wrong industries or businesses. I've been in a few other industries in the past. All of them cared about the well-being of their industry, and actually gave back to it and fought for it regularly. And still do. Even factory workers band together.

People in adult are animals when it comes to their (our) industry. The closest we get to unionizing or banding together or even talking to each other at all are these messageboards and some ICQs & emails. And then all we do is argue and complain with each other. Webmaster events and expos aren't carried out to improve the industry or join toward some common goal, it's to hawk more shit to other webmasters and stay drunk for a week.

There may be other industries out there that are as disconnected as we are, but I've never been a part of them. And the worst part is, we have nothing to fight with even if we needed to. We can't strike. We can't disconnect the porn. We can't "hold out" or negotiate. If Washington decided to pass some crazy anti-porn law tomorrow, whether it's right or wrong would be irrelevant, we'd simply be fucked. No one fights for Adult. And if they did, what would they say or do? Nothing. Remember Ashcroft? What if there's someone in the future that's worse?

Even our own customers wouldn't fight for it. Which side of the aisle is going to stand up and publicly argue FOR porn in Washington. Neither.

I'm sorry to those that don't want to hear it, but all of that has got 'Dead End' written all over it in my eyes. I'm not saying porn is going to vanish or anything, I'm saying that this is the reality of the business we're in, and it's not what I want. That's all. I'm not anti-porn or anything, I just want better organization and support and purpose in my life. I've been in Adult for 10 years and I know now, I'm not going to find that in the Adult industry. We are disconnected and unorganized and always will be. It's just the way it is.

But I don't see how you can say any other industry is the same. That simply isn't true. Walmart workers are more organized than we are.

Agent 488 06-20-2010 04:05 PM

each person or group here is an individual business. we don't work together just as wal mart doesn't work with target.

do you think wal mart cares if they destroy the retail landscape? no, for them that is the goal. to be the last one standing.

do you think brazzers cares if they destroy online adult? no, that just means they won.

we are all competitors although there may be alliances from time to time.

your thinking is confused here.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Amputate Your Head (Post 17265343)
Then you have been in the wrong industries or businesses. I've been in a few other industries in the past. All of them cared about the well-being of their industry, and actually gave back to it and fought for it regularly. And still do. Even factory workers band together.

People in adult are animals when it comes to their (our) industry. The closest we get to unionizing or banding together or even talking to each other at all are these messageboards and some ICQs & emails. And then all we do is argue and complain with each other. Webmaster events and expos aren't carried out to improve the industry or join toward some common goal, it's to hawk more shit to other webmasters and stay drunk for a week.

There may be other industries out there that are as disconnected as we are, but I've never been a part of them. And the worst part is, we have nothing to fight with even if we needed to. We can't strike. We can't disconnect the porn. We can't "hold out" or negotiate. If Washington decided to pass some crazy anti-porn law tomorrow, whether it's right or wrong would be irrelevant, we'd simply be fucked. No one fights for Adult. And if they did, what would they say or do? Nothing. Remember Ashcroft? What if there's someone in the future that's worse?

Even our own customers wouldn't fight for it. Which side of the aisle is going to stand up and publicly argue FOR porn in Washington. Neither.

I'm sorry to those that don't want to hear it, but all of that has got 'Dead End' written all over it in my eyes. I'm not saying porn is going to vanish or anything, I'm saying that this is the reality of the business we're in, and it's not what I want. That's all. I'm not anti-porn or anything, I just want better organization and support and purpose in my life. I've been in Adult for 10 years and I know now, I'm not going to find that in the Adult industry. We are disconnected and unorganized and always will be. It's just the way it is.

But I don't see how you can say any other industry is the same. That simply isn't true. Walmart workers are more organized than we are.


dyna mo 06-20-2010 04:10 PM

i've been transitioning/diversifying for the last several months. i sold my main adult property a while back but am shooting my own content for a micro-niche site that has yet to be exploited and am also working hard on a mainstream business opportunity.

Amputate Your Head 06-20-2010 04:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Agent 488 (Post 17265368)
each person or group here is an individual business. we don't work together just as wal mart doesn't work with target.

do you think wal mart cares if they destroy the retail landscape? no, for them that is the goal. to be the last one standing.

do you think brazzers cares if they destroy online adult? no, that just means they won.

we are all competitors although there may be alliances from time to time.

your thinking is confused here.

I'm not talking about competition or compartmentalized businesses. There's plenty of competition, both healthy and not-so-healthy. I'm talking about organization and defense and progressive action as an industry whole. We have none of that.

Transportation Industry: Organized
Weapons Industry: Organized
Airline Industry: Organized
Tobacco Industry: Organized
Medical Industry: Organized
Agriculture Industry: Organized
Oil Industry: Organized
Music Industry: Organized
Hollywood/Movie Industry: Organized
Legal & Accounting Industries: Organized
Banking Industry: Organized
etc.

The list is lengthy but hell, even the illegal drug industry is better organized. What is the Adult Industry doing for itself?

[crickets]

anyone? :anon

FrozenJag 06-20-2010 04:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rabbit (Post 17264944)
if most of your adult revenue is generated by 1 or 2 websites, let's talk i might be interested in picking them up...

+1

admin - betavisions - com


To answer the topic... working harder and investing more in adult then ever and making more then ever aswell. I dont see myself going anywhere anytime soon.

Agent 488 06-20-2010 04:20 PM

adult will never be organized because of societal taboos. you can always work as a janitor if you want that.

dyna mo 06-20-2010 04:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FrozenJag (Post 17265384)
+1

admin - betavisions - com


To answer the topic... working harder and investing more in adult then ever and making more then ever aswell. I dont see myself going anywhere anytime soon.

great looking dog in your avatar there, jag. :)

FrozenJag 06-20-2010 04:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Amputate Your Head (Post 17265382)
I'm not talking about competition or compartmentalized businesses. There's plenty of competition, both healthy and not-so-healthy. I'm talking about organization and defense and progressive action as an industry whole. We have none of that.

Transportation Industry: Organized
Weapons Industry: Organized
Airline Industry: Organized
Tobacco Industry: Organized
Medical Industry: Organized
Agriculture Industry: Organized
Oil Industry: Organized
Music Industry: Organized
Hollywood/Movie Industry: Organized
Legal & Accounting Industries: Organized
Banking Industry: Organized
etc.

The list is lengthy but hell, even the illegal drug industry is better organized. What is the Adult Industry doing for itself?

[crickets]

anyone? :anon

Illegal drug industry? LOL, so you call murdering each other on a daily basis working together? Most of those that you posted are government controled and/or run by a few huge companies. Apples to oranges.

FrozenJag 06-20-2010 04:23 PM

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Originally Posted by dyna mo (Post 17265388)
great looking dog in your avatar there, jag. :)

Thanks bro! She is my baby girl. Blue w/ a bit of brindle on blue nose.

Here is Kira :)

http://hqtrades.com/kira.jpg

babymaker 06-20-2010 04:24 PM

Music ins't organzied it's actaully worse than adult and full of the worst scumbags on the planet lol :D But the others you list are we would be better off organzied but that will never happen.

Amputate Your Head 06-20-2010 04:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Agent 488 (Post 17265387)
adult will never be organized because of societal taboos. you can always work as a janitor if you want that.

Yes, I can work as a janitor. I can do pretty much anything I choose. And that is why I'm in the process of investigating other avenues. There is no reason to be "stuck" and go through your only life in something you do not get full satisfaction from. :)

Quote:

Originally Posted by FrozenJag (Post 17265389)
Illegal drug industry? LOL, so you call murdering each other on a daily basis working together? Most of those that you posted are government controled and/or run by a few huge companies. Apples to oranges.

Yes, but they are organized and able to lobby for things to go their way, and defend themselves from unfavorable legislation. (not the drug cartels, but the others listed) What do we have? We have..... GFY, Goatse, & *******. We have animated gifs of John Travolta and smart ass remarks from some of our more witty members. Other than that, we just run wild.

ErectMedia 06-20-2010 04:45 PM

I quit in 2006 so 90-95% of my stuff today is mainstream, just came back in 2009 with a few small adult projects, when you guys quit hit me up as I currently have 1700+ domains under management all mainstream for your new projects. :1orglaugh


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