Shap and Lia19 - Heeeeres why porn is dead
 

I'm going to try to attempt to bring these two threads together.

Timeline:

first - Lia19 announces the first hardcore b/g here on gfy

second - The video is now on torrent everywhere with all the following user comments all pretty much saying "Cool glad it's up I wouldn't pay for this, I just want to see it"

third - Shap makes thread about why business is not so good


ta daaaa!


***NEW**Lia19 (FTV Softcore model) first debut B/G scene********
http://hosting01.hotchyx.com/adult-i...hcaps01c0d.jpg
actors: Lia19
video length: 36:01
video format: Avi
video size: 543mb

Shap stole internet porn from us.

I have this sneaking suspicion that Lia isn't really 19 :disgust

well, that didn't take long.

And how was it?

Yup, I already downloaded Ironman 3. It was alright..

those screen shots are tough to look at.

hahaha great post

:thumbsup

torrents are torrents, not tubes..
there will always be cheaters that being said there is no reason to make free porn easy accessible...

dvd rips where are you hiding

:thumbsup:thumbsup

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I don't know them personally, or know their names but there are many that obviously would!

damn that was quick...well done.

In situation where attractive videos like this are made i would put some nasty DRM protection to prevent any leak.

I promise you if it's now all over the torrents I could waste a few minutes and find it on tubes as well, but what's the point?

I can get Ironman2 online but they still made $135million last weekend.

apples and oranges. you're talking big screen release box office results from a 200 million dollar blockbuster effects film. here he is talking about an average porn video release.

Exactly. The pre-release promos for Iron Man 2 are hardly comparable to a normal adult video update on any site.

I have all your content on my tubesites and you're still doing ok...

so yes, i agree with you....

piracy is good for all of us.... :thumbsup









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I guess I'm just confused. I keep hearing porn is dead.

Are we all here posting during our lunch break? Are we all filling out applications at Lowe's?

Like torrent and similar sites wouldn't exist 5-10 years ago. Now its pretty much all google's fault, that these sites have far more attention, as they are easier to find for the regular surfer.

Apples to oranges?

Cost of Iron Man 2? - $170,000,000.00
Cost of marketing Iron Man 2? - $100,000,000.00 +

Cost of girl getting fucked and throwing video up on pay site?

I quite sure he'll make his money back and then some.

Does it include Scarlett Johansson giving head to Iron Man?

knew the solution would find its way in this thread! We just need to start releasing our new shit on the big screens!!! :)

Wow, you win for the most incoherent post on this thread.

time to rub one out.. TY!

No offense but 'ta-da' is bullshit. LOL
Simple Minds seek simple cause-and-effect scenarios.
It's the 'flies on garbage' theory at work.

To Wit:
You see a giant, stinking pile of garbage sitting there, with a thousand flies all over it, and you go:
"Look at all that trash those flies brought!"

Doesn't work like that. A factor? Absolutely. THE factor? No. The ONLY factor, I mean? No.

Finally, if 'quid pro quo' worked then we would all easily see why our businesses are down, right? Just like when someone new to the biz walks in and goes: "Where can i spend $5000 and double/triple my money?'
Shit, if it were that easy then everyone with money would just throw it around and make bank.
Doesn't happen that way, does it?

So sorry dude - I know it's quick and easy to look for 'reasons' but, in the real world, it ain't that simple.

Its in AVI format?

But Iron Man 2 made a shit ton of money in it's FIRST weekend. That's the proverbial "orange" here. Iron Man 2 will be raking in sick money for decades. The girl getting fucked on camera and putting it on a paysite? Maybe not so much.

Wanna play with the really really big ass numbers? You gotta spend really big ass numbers. It's not complicated.

If a video costs $1000.00 to make and it results in $10,000.00 in revenue.. then anyone capable of second grade math can quickly figure out that its quite profitable and "worth it"

Well... almost anyone. I guess it's clear why that comes across as incoherent. Are you from Florida or Kentucky? West Virginia?

Don't worry about the people that won't pay, worry about that 100 million others that don't know about tubes, piracy, torrents and are willing to pay if you find them - they aren't looking for you, I will give that hint.

That logic worked 5+ years ago but it's growing thinner every year as more and more find them so easy!

The global internet has gotten larger... not smaller.

The adult bubble has gotten smaller, because people have more shit to do online than look at porn or buy shit.

That's what has changed.

You're obviously capable of smoking second grade meth if you think there is a correlation between the two.

We are talking in terms of media windows, do you understand? Ironman is being released to movie theaters and will make astounding profits in those theaters alone.

This porn video is being released direct to internet for sales. A dimwit puts up the video on his lame ass torrent site the second he gets a chance.

The idea that "this guy will make his money back on his lame little video" shows that you are yet another in a long line of losers who thinks its fine to steal someone elses content.

I'd pay money to see Lia's nipples anytime... :pimp

hmmm...

Iron Man 2 is being released to theaters.
You can download it for free right now.

Iron Man 2 is making huge cash in spite of being available for free.

Lia getting railed is being released in a paysite.
You can download it for free right now.

Lia will still generate sales/rebills to that paysite.

The second you learn to blame failure on yourself will be the second you start improving your revenue.
:2 cents:

alright, i will make this really simple.

people don't want to see iron man on a small screen, they want the big screen thrill. the movie company knows this and although they hate seeing their movie pirated right now, they also realize that when they release iron man 2 on dvd with all the cute extras you cant get on pirate dvd, they are going to make another mint.

okay? alright then.

Ask yourself WHY people pay for porn even though porn is available for free.

I have actually asked 1000s of surfers that question and I know TheBestPorn asked it as well of their users. The results come back in four very simple statements, three about equally often and one that comes back more often than all of the others combined:

1) If I don't buy porn, people will stop making quality porn and Ill be stuck watching old dvd crap with nothing new to enjoy.

2) I don't feel right stealing... and pirating videos is stealing.

3) If I become a member of a good porn site they listen to my feedback and I have some say in what kind of porn gets made. I love being able to suggest a specific model or a story for them to create etc...

and #4 which gets said more than the other three replies combined....

4) I don't TRUST tube sites and torrents. I don't want to get my PC infected by a virus or have a free site abuse my credit card or get spam mail and other annoying crap from free sites so id rather just pay my 30 bucks and enjoy some quality porn without all the headaches.


Free porn does not kill the porn industry. Scam sites and aggressive billing does not kill the porn industry. The COMBINATION of aggressive billing by paysites and free porn being available is what is killing the industry. When a customer is just as likely to get card banged, spam emailed, virus or malware infected etc from a site he paid 30 to join as one that posts content for free... he becomes a permanent free site user instead.

Give customers a quality user experience and an ethical sales pitch without scamming them... It really is that simple. :2 cents: