Idiot Christians
 

Here is a post from a right wing nut site I have been banned from several times because the right does not allow free speech. You will see that they are homophobic pricks who believe that Jesus really taught intolerance and is coming again on a magic chariot to swoop them all up into the clouds and then proceed to fuck all us liberals with his mighty sword.

http://www.renewamerica.com/bb/viewt...hp?f=5&t=10861

Feel free to join up and tell them all to go fuck themselves AND their idiot genocidal monster of a god. You can tell them Confused sent you.

Just ignore them. I've been there, I've done that. You can't talk sense into people who have none. You can't rationalize with irrational people. It's a battle that will only be won in the courts, and never in the minds of these hate-monger douche-bags.

they do make one good point:

The drugs in our water supply should scare everyone and I think it's turning people into bi-sexuals cock craving fiends!

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Not to mention the children are all fucktards, pissflaps and morons.

In the beginning God created man - Later man decided to return the favor. They have created God in their imagine with their believe system

Another point is that going to church makes you as much of a christian as going to the movies makes you an actor. I don't listen to rants from people claiming to know and act out God's will on anyone. Somewhere I am sure, there is a deity weeping over all this.

Point taken, but did you see the results of yesterday's elections? It should scare you that these people are on a mission and they are organized. They will do whatever they think is necessary to bring the kingdom of jesus to the USA. Unfortunately, people on the moderate left are far more apathetic than those on the right. If we continue to blow them off, we might end up with another Bush in the oval office and another Ashcroft as the AG. Like having to go through all the 2257 bullshit?

Ironically, the red states far surpass the blue states in downloading porn. They are all a bunch of fucking hypocrites. JimmySwaggarts, Jim Bakkers, Benny Hinns, and Ted Haggards.

You have to realize their motive for saying that birth control pills in the water supply are causing gays.

They do not believe in recreational sex. Sex is for making babies only. Not something that is for pleasure. So they don't believe in birth control or condoms. Plus, beliving that tainted water is causing gays means that they don't have to accept that people are born naturally gay.

Not all Christians are like this though.

even though back in the days i was claiming myself a conservative, later i gained more and more liberal side, because what i believe is even a conservative needs a liberal system to live in, because thats the only way both side/sides might be happy, this tolerates any kind of life style.

However unfortunately some dickhead conservatives are just fucking hypocrites, when it comes to their rights, they will sound like freedom fighters, but when something opposes to them, You will se how they salivating with their hate mongering

good one!
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make movie about it

I was like you. Conservative and also religious, until I grew up and realized that snakes and donkeys can't talk, people don't turn into salt, the earth is much older than 6000 years, and evolution is more than just an unproven theory that is beings advanced by elites of the Illuminati New World Order who are trying to zap Jesus from the brains of his sheep by sending them electromagnetic gamma rays through their cell phones.

Regarding their rights, didn't you know that, according to them, the passing of hate crimes legislation is an attempt to silence their freedom of religion, i.e., the freedom to spread hate and intolerance from the pulpit by saying that God hates gays.

Like their fucking hero, Rush the big fat slob Limbaugh, they hope Obama fails. Many hope he is also assassinated. How dare we elect a black man as president. FUCK these inane freaks.

The bible belongs in the fucking toilet.

Man, i agree with You in some cases regarding to Your post,

if You see my location i born and razed in a community that big majority has belong to Muslims, i m still a Muslim, believe in İslam (not much conservative though), i drink, going out and i got friends who are from different beliefs and some doesn't belong to religion and some are even atheists.

what ever the case is here, my point was, i support Liberalism from my heart, what i believe is we can respect who wants to go to Mosque, Church, Sinagog and who also wants to go to disco, club etc.

if people could be learn respecting each other's life style rather then trying to poison others with their irrational ideologies, this planet will become a happier place no doudt :2 cents:

Now I have a reasonable excuse to give to my parents...

not like chritians just started being wacko with gay rights.

they have been crazy oh for the past few centuries... burning people alive, slaughtering women and children etc.... LOL

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They like to forget all that.

Here is a post from the same site. Very funny stuff, if it wasn't so pathetically sad. This moron is celebrating the defeat of a same-sex marriage proposal in Maine by what he calls THE PEOPLE, which he assumes is all the NORMAL heterosexuals. What a FUCKTARD. Notice how this total fucking idiots repeats all the long ago disproven myths about gay people, i.e., that they are psychologically and not biologically affected (in other words, it's a choice). He goes on to say that gays don't derive pleasure from sex. :1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh These fucking morons still believe that AIDS is a GAY DISEASE. In truth, religion is a FAR WORSE disease that makes morons like this guy stop thinking altogether.

Don't get me wrong (i have read Your posts from the blog which You got on Your siggy though), but what's the deal with Liberalism to Andy Religion?

Liberalism is nothing to do with it, Liberalism just don't give a fuck what You do or how You lived :2cents

Praise the Lord - and pass the fucking ammunition.

PS: Drop-kick me Jesus through the goal posts of life.

If it wasn't defeated by "the people" who did it?

I was surprised that there was still a person who says "afro-american".

Must be quite a large rock they found to live under.

Probably men should fuck women, anyway. That's the design, isn't it. Men have cocks. Women have pussies. Anyway, I'm not against the gay community and I am straight.

While I totally agree that all Evangelical Christians are mentally ill and borderline retarded......... there are plenty of people who are opposed to gay marriage who are not Christians. Believing in a certain cultural identity or cultural traditions has very little to do with Christianity per se. :2 cents:

ANDY???? Do you mean END religion? If so, you are right, and that is part of the problem. Liberals are more likely to be apathetic. Moderates are MUCH MORE LIKELY to be apathetic. Right wing Jesus freaks, on the other hand, do know how to organize. You have to give them that. That is why it is critical for those of us who value REAL FREEDOM to fight them and strike them down at every chance.

Not all liberals are as anti-religion as I am. I had two friends die because of their stupid religious beliefs, one a suicide because the morons he hung around with convinced him his soul was possessed by demons, and the other because he was an epileptic and had a seizure at a prayer meeting and instead of calling 911, his 'fellow christians' decided that only prayer would show god the necessary faith to heal him miraculously. Well, either god decided to blow them all off or he couldn't have intervened even if he wanted to BECAUSE HE DOESN'T FUCKING EXIST.

I don't know what kind of evidence these fucking morons need. One of many recent studies on the effects of prayer showed that it had ZERO EFFECT. In earlier studies the patients were told that they were being prayed for and they seemed to have a better result. In this study, however, no one was told, and there was no evidence of a better outcome. That tells me that what was responsible for the outcomes in the earlier findings was NOT PRAYER, but the reduced stress likely brought about by a subject BELIEVING they were being prayed for. This explains what is behind the idea that 'religion is good for sick people'.

Present these findings to the loons on the right and you will get replies like 'I don't care what you say; I KNOW prayer has worked for me.' There is no fucking convincing them. I guess it is true when they say YOU CAN'T ARGUE WITH STUPID.

On the documentary 'Religulous', Bill Maher interviewed one wing-nut who tried to argue that he knows his god exists because one night at a party he prayed that it would stop raining it did. :1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh But if GOD had actually answered his stupid prayer, I would wonder why a supposedly loving god would grant this inane idiotic meaningless request and ignore a devoted mother at the bedside of a dying child praying desperately for divine intervention. That guy thought his god was loving. To me, he was a sick monster who would rather turn the rain on and off than do any actual good.

Borderline?

There are non-religious people who hate homosexuals and others, but if it were not for religion, they would be outvoted by rationally thinking sane people. Organized religion has bankrolled the anti-gay movement. They donate money collected on Sunday Mornings at churches to deny the constitutional rights of people the toilet paper piece of shit called the bible has brainwashed them into hating.

MODERN CHURCHES ARE POLITICAL MACHINES and should be taxed. Enough of this 'hiding behind the separation of church and state only when it is convenient' shit. You want to generate more tax revenues, TAX THE FUCKING CHURCHES AND THE HYPOCRITE FAITH HEALER CHARLATANS like Benny Hill. That fucking freak should be in jail.

Homophobia is much older than organized religion, as is misogyny, but both would be FAR LESS significant were it not for backwoods redneck organized religion.

You are missing my point. RELIGION has political influence over the general population. They use fear of judgment and Hell to brainwash people and change their values. I doubt that there would be as much homophobia in the world today if it were not fostered by idiot religious fanatics and the churches. RELIGION is a FUCKING CANCER on society. Cancers need to be cut out.

I agree that religions should not be tax exempt and they are inherently political in nature (see the Roman Catholic Church and Islam for two obvious examples).

But I disagree that opposition to homosexual marriage is irrational. Cultural traditions and identities are an important part of the human instinct. There is nothing particularly irrational about them. Furthermore there are plenty of rational reasons for opposition to gay marriage.

Western cultural traditions also frown upon polygamy and incest. Laws against polygamy and incest also infringe on people's ability to have a relationship with whom they choose. There are legitimate arguments on both sides of the issue. :2 cents:

They call them worse names than that over there. They are equal opportunity haters.

From the same thread

This guy, Specter, is about as bad a racist as there is. He is the member of a racist church, Armstrong's Church of God, which believes that God has mandated total separation of the races and is pissed off because of integration. He blames the Jews for the Holocaust, claiming that God used Hitler to slaughter them because they refused to move back to their homeland, which didn't even exist at the time of the Holocaust, a point that evades this dipshit. He calls blacks ghetto dwellers and thinks god will judge them all for not returning to Africa. His dig at the end is a mockery of the Reparations Movement. He thinks it is an abomination to marry outside your race and that god will not receive the children of such a union. He also believes that the Ango-Saxons are the lost tribes of Israel, despite overwhelming and conclusive genetic and linguistic evidence showing that this simply couldn't be true. Like the rest of the fucktard zombie sheep on the far religious right, he just believes anyway. People like this serve no useful purpose on this planet. What this guy really needs is some good XXX hardcore interracial porn. :upsidedow

I am not a big fan of gay sex. In fact, it repulses me to the core. I could never promote gay sites because I can't stand the content, but that does not translate into a belief that what they do is wrong. It's just not for me.

The point is that consenting adults should be able to do whatever the fuck they want to do in their private lives without interference from the outside world, especially when what they do doesn't affect the outside world. Illegal stuff like bestiality and pedophilia should be interfered with, because it involves the abuse of those who are unable to consent (children and animals). Polygamy is a blatant abuse of women, many of which are underage (Most of those who practice this in the USA are bible thumpers - i.e., mormons). Incest often involves this kind of abuse, but if it weren't for incest, some of these redneck bible thumpers wouldn't get any sex at all. :1orglaugh

None of the things you mention are the same as homosexuality. Polygamy, bestiality, and pedophilia SHOULD be illegal. Didn't Jerry Lee Lewis LEGALLY marry his 14 year old cousin? Or did they lie on the marriage application?

Exactly... It even says right in the bible that it is not their job to impose their will upon others and definitely to not pass judgment. For it says in:

Matthew Chapter 7
1. Do not judge, or you too will be judged.
2. For in the same way you judge others, you will be judged, and with the measure you use, it will be measured to you.
3. Why do you look at the speck of sawdust in your brother's eye and pay no attention to the plank in your own eye?
4. How can you say to your brother, 'Let me take the speck out of your eye,' when all the time there is a plank in your own eye?
5. You hypocrite, first take the plank out of your own eye, and then you will see clearly to remove the speck from your brother's eye.

and in
John Chapter 8 when they brought forth the woman accused of adultery and about to stone her to death. His reply?
"If any one of you is without sin, let him be the first to throw a stone at her."
He did not condemn or rebuke her or want her dead.

I always open up with this in a debate with the religious when they try to play their holier than thou card and it pisses them off every time.

You postilions are totally incoherent. Polygamy and incest that occurs between consenting adults is no different than homosexuality. Your position is that consenting adults should be able to have state sanction for whatever type of relationship they want. Why should three people who love each other be denied that right...... or a brother and sister?

You accuse opponents of gay marriage as being irrational yet you have no rational basis for your own positions other than the absolute moral certainty that you are right.

I understand the point you are trying to make, but it is a bad one. You can't be tolerant of everything, unless you want to have complete anarchy. But I am not intolerant of anything unless it does harm to people. Polygamy brings harm to women, as does incest. Incest has serious mental health risks.

http://www.faqs.org/health/topics/68/Incest.html

Gay relationships do not pose seriously mental or physical harm to consenting adults. I am against any kind of abusive relationship, of whatever type.

The only clear point here is that you are a homophobe who hates gays. I know you think you don't, but you do.

What they generally say is that you cannot understand the bible unless the holy spirit, whatever the fuck that is, decides to open your heart 'to da truth a JEEEEEEEEESUS'. If you are against the bible, their stupid religion, and their idiot make believe god, it must be that god has chosen to blind you to the truth so that he can roast you in eternal hellfire, after which they become condescending and say 'I pray dat da holy spirit will open you up to da truth'. :1orglaugh:1orglaugh

What they are REALLY saying is that you can't understand the bible until you have been brainwashed into accepting all the bullshit it spews. I can't understand how they can all say that the bible is 100% correct about everything and has never been proven wrong, ever. What total BS. Not only does it have errors, but it is wrong about almost EVERYTHING. You can't seriously be a believer in that crap unless you have decided to turn off your mind completely, become one of the zombie sheeple, and never entertain a single original thought the rest of your life.

I have no idea what you are talking about. I have known some die hards before but they have never put it that way. First of all it doesn't make sense. If you can't understand anything without the holy spirit and you can not receive the holy spirit without being saved/baptized then you wouldn't be able to know you needed saved.

I think you speak on the subject with little true knowledge. Your statements counter each other, in logic anyways.

I am a spiritual person, call it agnostic if you like, and I sit on the fence when it comes to religion. I see that it does more harm than good.

I spent about 20 years indoctrinated into the church but it sounds to me you stand in an argument with no real knowledge of religion other than your belief there is no God. But guess what? Your belief in NO God is in no way different than the religious and their belief IN God. They are both based on faith in an assumption that can neither be factually proven nor dispelled. Your mocking condemnation is also no different than their perceived religious superiority.

I am not against their bible. I probably know it better than most church goers. There has also been a huge change in christian/religious perspective on the bible over the last few decades. Many theologians and worshipers alike do not believe the bible is all fact but rather a guide with a large part being written symbolically.

I have studied religion in connection with history and the bible gets it right more than it gets it wrong. Outside of parable anyways. What are the errors? What is EVERYTHING?

I agree with you there. Martin Luther believed that reason could not lead men to God and even went on to say that "Reason is the enemy of faith" and that for one to accept God they must become unreasonable.

anyone standing on one side of the fence, calling everyone on the other side an idiot, is an idiot, no matter which side anyone is standing on.

end of story.

i don't believe in god... even more so, i don't believe in ignorance and stupidity

You're a fucking idiot. :1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

I realize you are not likely coherent enough to see the painfully obvious flaws in your logic....... but try your best. In your opinion polygamy is harmful to women (what if two guys marry one girl, or three guys marry or three girls marry???)....... just like in many people's opinion homosexuality is harmful to those who practice it. You want your opinion of what is "correct" or "healthy" to be enforced on society but are horrified by others who want the same thing but happen to disagree with you on the details.

You are a hypocrite along with the fact that you are quite obviously an idiot. You are exactly like the religious nuts you hate so much. :2 cents:


Personally I could care less about gay people one way or the other. Personally I don't care what people do in the privacy of their own homes...... get high, fuck each other in the ass, worship Wicca or whatever. Personally I don't like that stuff and I prefer to watch baseball on TV........ but what other people like to do means absolutely nothing to me. :)

A more pointed response.

If you call someone an idiot who actually IS an idiot, how it that being an idiot? That is an idiot of an argument. :1orglaugh

Is Dr. Dawkins an idiot?

These people think it is ridiculous to argue that we came from monkeys (which itself shows an idiotic understanding of evolution), and yet they believe (literally) that a snake can talk and con a naked women (e.g., Eve) who was created from the rib of a man (e.g., Adam), who himself was magically assembled from the dust of the earth, into eating a piece fruit that can magically stimulate your brain to suddenly know the difference between right and wrong. Rational, smart people don't buy shit like that. IDIOTS DO.

They believe that the sun goes around the earth and can freeze in the sky (e.g., Joshua), that an ocean can part and allow people to walk through it (e.g., the red sea), that the earth is flat (e.g., Jesus on the mountaintop seeing ALL the kingdoms of the earth), that people can suddenly turn into salt (e.g., Lott's wife), that jesus always told the truth (like when he promised to return within the lifetime of his apostles), and that the earth is only 6k years old (because da bible tell dem so). Those people are aren't merely IDIOTS, they are dumb, stupid, moronic, inane, imbecilic, retarded IDIOTS.

End of story.