Guy with a gun holding a protest sign at presidential town hall
 

So, NBC cameras noticed a holster and a handgun on some guy who is protesting at a town hall today in new hampshire. It's on church private property, and in new hampshire it's 100% legal to have a non-concealed weapon on private property with the property owners permission.

The president will be there in an hour to speak at the town hall meeting. Does this scare you? Does it bother you that radical extremist groups are encouraging people to attend these meetings and shout down the speakers? Does it further bother you that many of these groups are funded by the most profitable insurance and pharma. companies in the country?

Change is not easy, but mixing incitement to riot with handguns on church properties where the president will be... just scares me a little bit. Howz about you?

churches should be taxed and not allowed to mix in politics.

isnt pharma all for this plan?

i suspect that private property or not..that guy is not around when the president shows up..lol

yes totally agree..why are churches a tax free zone..wtf

yep... :2 cents:

Amen! :2 cents:

So if Obama shows up it suddenly becomes illegal? lol I don't see a problem with a lawful citizen exercising his rights. And umm since he is protesting against obama suddenly its all "fringe" groups? So were all the Bush protesters that acted like idiots in NYC fringe groups as well? Or are they fringe groups just because they don't have the same opinions and are protesting opposite of your beliefs ? :1orglaugh

go there...with your gun and hang out....you have the right man

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No I dont think anyone said it would become illegal if obama shows up. It's legal to carry a non-concealed weapon on private property with the property owners permission in new hampshire.

As to the fringe aspect, it's been widely reported for weeks now as well as the primary donors to the groups. There is a direct link between the companies wishes to prevent healthcare reform as proposed, and the incitement of like-minded people to attend democratic town halls and disrupt them by shouting. Even including instructions to shout down early and often. This is not really disputed by either side anymore, no biggy.

The combination is a little scary to me.

You can not carry a firearm within range of the President of the United States. He will be removed by Secret Service or at the very least told to relinquish his side arm during the time while the President is there.

technically it would be a violation of his rights if they made him leave if the property owner didn't want him to.

Please show us this law.

Anyone who does a quick google news search can find gun sites encouraging people to attend Town Hall meetings... as you say, it is not disputed.

i'm all for a persons right to bear arms in public..

although, i think there should be some limits when it comes to certain circumstances.

if there were 1000 people in the crowd with weapons, there is no way that any important political or corporate figure would address a crowd in person..

i dont think it matters...everyone knows its not going to be allowed

that guy will be arrested for being drunk

they will pour a bottle of whiskey on his head..lol

i know in some states that you must give up your weapon if its an organized public event whether on private property or not.. :2 cents:

ain't that the gods honest truth...

want to know what scares me... That fucking guy called the President saying how he is going to CUT back and CUT Costs and our children WONT pay for it etc etc... Has that fucker spent a SINGLE FUCKING NIGHT in the white house??? I am willing to bet airfarce 1 has clocked more hours in the last 5 months than in the last 15 years.

Not in va.. I open carry all over Northern Virginia here.

NH i do not know the laws. But you cannot be disarmed unlessed you are being detained by police. And to be detained by police you have to have commited a crime or being placed under arrest.

This is a very touchy situation where laws vs rights vs common knowledge come into play.

If he is unlawfully disarmed or removed would it be a violation of his rights? It could be a payday for him.


veryyy interesting situation.

crazy shit

hopefully more of you carriers will begin attending events, I honestly hope more and more and more people bring guns to public events like this.

nothing makes cops more paranoid than gun carriers, theyll make a law about it across all states :)

You can "cut costs" and still have a project cost more in the end. Buy a gross of staples instead of a box at a time. You just cut costs (and spent more).

I know, I'm being a butthead, but it's true.

Some congress dude on tv yesterday said they'd found 50 some million in savings in medicaid without changing a single thing on the patient end, or patient care. (all overhead bullshit). But it's not sexy, so it wont make big news.

It's not a law but it's enforced... Just google around, Secret Service asks you to remove all firearms before entering a building that houses the US President. They can deny you access to the building if you refuse. I'm pretty sure when any private property owner gives access to the President of the United States to enter the building they also authorize the Secret Service to protect and defend the president under whatever means is necessary. The Secret Service would not allow the president to go somewhere unprotected...

I'm sure that must be true. They can't really allow any chance of mayhem around the prez or family. I admire him for wanting very open public appearances and such, it's just a little unnerving. Probably due to all the extreme protectionism from before or whatever you'd call it.


Anyway, president is being introduced now at the town hall event. No mayhem to be seen yet.

Nah. No possible way to compete with the amount of mileage built up between DC & Crawford, TX with George Jr.

Perhaps he is the solution to all of this spending.

Thats bs. Gun carriers have to have a permit normally to carry. To get a permit you must pass a criminal background check. The cop knows if you have a permit then you have no crimes. Don't spew the propaganda please. lol I've been pulled over with a gun permit holder and when the cops see that they don't get nervous, and when I was there they didn't even ask to see the weapon. It was a non issue.

http://www.highbeam.com/doc/1P3-1072901471.html

Thats as far as I am going to retort, you clearly have no concept of what i even said.

Well, the town hall went well. No wild west gun play with people taking dives off saloon balconies or anything.

Actually, what a great Q&A that was. Really went a long way to put to rest some of the crazy distortions out there. IMHO.

I have complete understanding of what you said, and why it is wrong. lol

http://www.kc3.com/news/police_ccw_2.htm

http://www.pjstar.com/homepage/x1730...eter-criminals

http://www.learnaboutguns.com/2009/0...-carry-rights/

Not taking any more time on that, but ya.. ol

Looks like you hit all the talking points :1orglaugh

Does it bother you that you are forced to blatancy lie and obfuscate the issues in order to advance Obama's unpopular agenda....... or do you feel the end justifies the means in this case? :upsidedow

I have no objection to the term talking points being applied to my questions. I just think that it's inherently disingenuous for corporate sponsors, using websites with names full of words like "patriots" and "freedom", to literally incite people to go disrupt meetings by shouting down speakers who support a plan that would go contrary to their corporate interests.

Call me crazy. Some do, lol.

I'm independant btw. Not that anyone believes anything once they put their dukes up, but for what it's worth.

Here's some free advice for republican steering comittees: The best way to let a democrat trip up is to give them as much rope as they want. They are not like you. They do not employ a huge rubber stamp when they gain power. They fight amongst themselves. Hence phrases such as "blue dogs". As soon as you hear that, you know the demo's are fractured. Apply wedge and push.

There ya go, enjoy.

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the funny thing is you were in the thread about forced swine flu vaccines saying youd shoot cops, now here you are saying they dont fear people like you with guns. LOL People like you are exactly why there are groups of officers against people like you having concealed weapons.

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I live in New Hampshire. There are a lot of people who "open carry". I see them all the time. I never feel threatened. Criminals usually hide their guns.

socialist do not care what the people think... so you will be ok. your new socialized health plan will pass fine.