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PornHero 08-07-2009 10:57 AM

from $24k/month to $14k/month: Goodbye paysites :-( Hello webcams :-)
 
After 12 years of promoting paysites, and making great money, its time for a strategy change.

My income from promoting paysites has gone from an average of $24,000/month in 2007 down to $14,000/month last month. :disgust

It was a great run but the writing is on the wall... paysites are dead.

Yes, sales will still trickle in but you can no longer depend on paysites for steadily increasing income like you could before. :2 cents:

Goodbye paysites :(

-------------------------------

Hello webcams :)

For the foreseeable future, every link I put up on my sites/blogs/projects will be for a webcam site.

If you are a webcam affiliate manager please post your ICQ# in this thread and add my ICQ #161550420.

Lets get to know each other :winkwink:

Also, if anyone has informative links/blogposts on how to promote webcams effectively please post them in this thread.

thx :thumbsup

PornHero

hypedough 08-07-2009 11:01 AM

There's always something new that's selling better than your current model. It's what sells in the long run that matters.

TheSenator 08-07-2009 11:01 AM

BIG BUCKS NOW has been helping me out.

Ive been doing cam since IFriends paid $10 for free sign-ups. Cam revenue increases over time with big jumps if you get a whale. Look for programs that pay at least 20% for life.

OrangeContent 08-07-2009 11:11 AM

$14k a month is great, but not as good as your previous numbers. I can see why you think it's dead. Still a great profit though.

flashfire 08-07-2009 11:15 AM

tried webcams.com?

johnuk 08-07-2009 11:21 AM

You're still making good profit so I'd consider diversify the niches you promote rather than drop paysites completely. Finding a great paysite that's not over saturated and in a solid niche will still make you alot of money. Hint, hint :winkwink:

PornHero 08-07-2009 11:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheSenator (Post 16157825)
BIG BUCKS NOW has been helping me out.

Ive been doing cam since IFriends paid $10 for free sign-ups. Cam revenue increases over time with big jumps if you get a whale. Look for programs that pay at least 20% for life.

Thanks Senator,

I just signed up for Big Bucks Now using your linkcode :)

Yngwie 08-07-2009 11:25 AM

Have you tried promoting any mobile stuff yet? I'm sure that this would make you some $. Hit me up on ICQ and we can talk about this and see what we can do. It sucks that your sales have dropped like that, but I'm sure that your site(s) get some mobile traffic that can help increase your earnings. I can easily have a mobile whitelabel created for you and all you would have to do is use our mobile redirect script to redirect any mobile traffic that you may get to your whitelabel. Just a thought. Not trying to spam your thread. This may not be cams, but it's a great money maker.

Just wanted to throw out another way to earn some $ since our mobile sites convert and retain great. Anyway, hit me up on ICQ when you get the chance.

Jet - BANNED FOR LIFE 08-07-2009 11:26 AM

what's the best webcam program?

which kind of ads work best?

96ukssob 08-07-2009 11:27 AM

great to see someone is evolving instead of bitching about slow sales :1orglaugh

nice work, I give you a :thumbsup for using your brain!

good luck on the webcams, hope you can get back up to $24k/mo quickly.

PornHero 08-07-2009 11:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by johnuk (Post 16157926)
You're still making good profit so I'd consider diversify the niches you promote rather than drop paysites completely. Finding a great paysite that's not over saturated and in a solid niche will still make you alot of money. Hint, hint :winkwink:

Hi John, I agree there is still money to be made with paysites, its just that as an affiliate, the paysite model is on the decline overall.

I want to put my business in front of a wave rather than trying to surf a dying one.

BTW, http://www.punkgrl.com looks good... I'll add it to some of my databases and see what happens. :)

TheSenator 08-07-2009 11:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PornHero (Post 16157951)
Thanks Senator,

I just signed up for Big Bucks Now using your linkcode :)

Cool....Here is my ICQ #61661595...

I got a sweet domain and developing it with a lot of webcam stuff.


Maybe we can exchange links.

PornHero 08-07-2009 11:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Yngwie (Post 16157952)
Have you tried promoting any mobile stuff yet? I'm sure that this would make you some $. Hit me up on ICQ and we can talk about this and see what we can do. It sucks that your sales have dropped like that, but I'm sure that your site(s) get some mobile traffic that can help increase your earnings. I can easily have a mobile whitelabel created for you and all you would have to do is use our mobile redirect script to redirect any mobile traffic that you may get to your whitelabel. Just a thought. Not trying to spam your thread. This may not be cams, but it's a great money maker.

Just wanted to throw out another way to earn some $ since our mobile sites convert and retain great. Anyway, hit me up on ICQ when you get the chance.

Hi Yngwie,

Topbucks has been great to me over the years. Kristin from Topbucks got me setup with the Topbucks mobile product just yesterday. We'll see how it does with my traffic in the next little while. I'll add u to my ICQ right now :)

PornHero 08-07-2009 12:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bossku69 (Post 16157963)
great to see someone is evolving instead of bitching about slow sales :1orglaugh

nice work, I give you a :thumbsup for using your brain!

good luck on the webcams, hope you can get back up to $24k/mo quickly.

:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

thanks Boss -- i figure webcams is the natural progression -- I was going to promote dating sites too but I don't want to be sending people to sites full of fake profiles. At least with webcams they get some value for their money. :2 cents:

Jarmusch 08-07-2009 12:06 PM

Not everyone would describe $14K a month as 'sales trickling in'. :)

Yngwie 08-07-2009 12:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PornHero (Post 16158046)
Hi Yngwie,

Topbucks has been great to me over the years. Kristin from Topbucks got me setup with the Topbucks mobile product just yesterday. We'll see how it does with my traffic in the next little while. I'll add u to my ICQ right now :)

ok cool :)

seeandsee 08-07-2009 12:28 PM

give me 10% a month and you will be my god :D

woj 08-07-2009 12:30 PM

cams aren't THAT much better... :2 cents:

Lace 08-07-2009 12:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by johnuk (Post 16157926)
You're still making good profit so I'd consider diversify the niches you promote rather than drop paysites completely. Finding a great paysite that's not over saturated and in a solid niche will still make you alot of money. Hint, hint :winkwink:

Cant say that. You don't know how much his expenses are. That could be a huge hit :winkwink:

LeRoy 08-07-2009 12:37 PM

If you have Asian niche traffic. Feel free to send your traffic to our camsites.

We have a PPC + 35% Revshare campaign running. Check it out.. info in my siggy :thumbsup

John Marco 08-07-2009 12:49 PM

email me john [at] webcams.com

I will get you going with everything you need

ICQ 476111

bloggerz 08-07-2009 12:51 PM

Naked.com From Nasty Dollars is kicking ass for me :thumbsup

PornHero 08-07-2009 01:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LeRoy (Post 16158218)
If you have Asian niche traffic. Feel free to send your traffic to our camsites.

We have a PPC + 35% Revshare campaign running. Check it out.. info in my siggy :thumbsup

Nice, I will join your DTIcash and see how you do on my asian blogs :thumbsup - but you should really fix the big "Sigin Up" graphic on the sign up page: http://www.dticash.com/signup.html :2 cents:

PornHero 08-07-2009 01:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lace (Post 16158215)
Cant say that. You don't know how much his expenses are. That could be a huge hit :winkwink:

My expenses have been steady at about $1000/month for servers and domain names the last few years.

Losing $10k/month in income sucks no matter what but I take it in stride.

What goes up must come down. Easy come easy go. I just thank goodness I saved a shitload of cash & didnt just blow it all. :pimp

I remember popping the champagne when I hit $3k/month back in 2003 so i am still grateful as hell for this business :1orglaugh

Abbie 08-07-2009 01:38 PM

Thanks for the love, Senator :) we enjoy working with you.

PornHero, if you need any custom content, feel free to contact me and we can have some fan videos etc made for you by our cam models for your sites.

Badmaash 08-07-2009 01:45 PM

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LeRoy 08-07-2009 01:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PornHero (Post 16158377)
Nice, I will join your DTIcash and see how you do on my asian blogs :thumbsup - but you should really fix the big "Sigin Up" graphic on the sign up page: http://www.dticash.com/signup.html :2 cents:

Cool I'll hit you up on ICQ in a bit . Thanks :thumbsup:thumbsup

cybermike 08-07-2009 02:26 PM

Money Tree 30% revshare!

qxm 08-07-2009 02:33 PM

yeap.. content sites have really taken a dive... time to re-think the entire business model.....

PornHero 08-07-2009 03:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by qxm (Post 16158607)
yeap.. content sites have really taken a dive... time to re-think the entire business model.....

I agree... webcam sites have a clear advantage right now. Porn videos are everywhere. No need for a credit card. :2 cents:

I am going to dive into the webcam business with both guns blazing.

Hell in the past I've dropped serious cash on hookers and hoes for that live experience you just cant get watching a recorded video. So I can relate to the craving for the live experience you get when watching live cams.:1orglaugh

pentae 08-07-2009 03:49 PM

PornHero have you tried dating? Lets talk

Mickey_ 08-07-2009 03:52 PM

Welcome to our world, profitable times ahead.
icq is 665-086 drop me a line any time.
We have it all
pps, lifetime revs, cobrands,whitelabels, two tier referral program (cam model, affiliate), 400k+ model base, most major niches covered. the list goes on.

bdld 08-07-2009 03:52 PM

im not jumping ship just yet, i'm just diversifying my niches at this point. reason is, my webcams conversions are worst than paysite ones.

videodoll 08-07-2009 04:39 PM

I agree that webcams tend to have great payouts, but I also have had a harder time getting conversions.

PornHero 08-07-2009 05:08 PM

Quote:

im not jumping ship just yet, i'm just diversifying my niches at this point. reason is, my webcams conversions are worst than paysite ones.
Quote:

Originally Posted by videodoll (Post 16159182)
I agree that webcams tend to have great payouts, but I also have had a harder time getting conversions.

I have had some mild success with webcams in the past. But I havent given them my 100% undivided attention for months at a time like I gave to paysites.

The choice is clear for me -- I want to be in a business with a product that is hard to get and satisfies a need.

Webcams still have life and lots of opportunities to grow income... paysites not so much.

Live porn is where the future is going:

- You can watch a cute college girl finger herself and tell her to lick her finger afterwards and she does whatever you say.

- Having a sexy girl watch you masturbate on YOUR webcam and tell you what she thinks as u blow ur load.

- Watching a couple fuck on camera and you command what they do next. Fuck her ass, give him a deepthroat blow job, fishhook her while giving it to her doggystyle etc etc...

Live porn is the next BIG thing. :2 cents:

totalsexcams 08-07-2009 05:19 PM

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PornHero 08-07-2009 05:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pentae (Post 16158921)
PornHero have you tried dating? Lets talk

Does your dating site have only REAL profiles? If so, lets talk. ICQ# 161550420

PornHero 08-07-2009 05:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mickey-AWE (Post 16158933)
Welcome to our world, profitable times ahead.
icq is 665-086 drop me a line any time.
We have it all
pps, lifetime revs, cobrands,whitelabels, two tier referral program (cam model, affiliate), 400k+ model base, most major niches covered. the list goes on.

Hi Mickey, I'd love to get a whitelabel site set up. I just added you on ICQ. Lets chat on Monday.

mopek1 08-07-2009 05:55 PM

Hi PornHero,

Thanks again for a good business thread and for being frank about your numbers. It is a help and makes us all think a bit more.

I came to same conclusion about cams - meaning something real the surfer can get that can't be replaced or stolen (content). Thing is ... I can't convert them. Hopefully you'll have better luck.

:)

SexMyWife 08-07-2009 06:13 PM

Well, how about a little bit of both paysite & cam shows, I have/do them both on my site. :-) I have been online over 10 years now and am just finally putting together my affiliate program. (Better late than never I guess - lol) I should have it 100% up and running in 1 week. Mandy


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