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milambur 04-17-2009 02:04 AM

The Pirate Bay found GUILTY!!!
 
http://www.domstol.se/templates/DV_Press____10382.aspx

1 year in prison each.

aniloscash 04-17-2009 02:05 AM

arent that on some tropical island

JD 04-17-2009 02:05 AM

english?

Robocrop 04-17-2009 02:06 AM

Well its like this in Sweden.

If you get sentenced to 1 year you only do time 6-7 months.

They will still be multimilionares when they get out ...so who cares about 6-7 months really? Oh and the jails in Sweden arent like in the states. I wouldnt be suprised if they will go to a jail without fence :)

Yet another victory for TPB if you see it from PR view. They will just get more supporters now.

milambur 04-17-2009 02:07 AM

They are to pay $3.5 Million in damages to media companies as well.

kane 04-17-2009 02:12 AM

I used the google translator to read the article.

It is interesting for sure. I wonder if this ruling will have effects on other torrent sites.

Juicy D. Links 04-17-2009 02:12 AM

where do i download my porno now?

Ron2k1 04-17-2009 02:15 AM

I wonder if this affects other torrent sites like puretna.com but I doubt it

milambur 04-17-2009 02:16 AM

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Originally Posted by kane (Post 15754052)
I used the google translator to read the article.

It is interesting for sure. I wonder if this ruling will have effects on other torrent sites.

It's not a article, it is a press release from the court house.

Robocrop 04-17-2009 02:17 AM

TPB will drive this case to supreme court anyway. This aint the end of this story I would assume.

Domain Diva 04-17-2009 02:18 AM

Can they appeal ?

Barefootsies 04-17-2009 02:19 AM

Not possible.

Gideongallery time shifted them away to an alternate universe.

Zorgman 04-17-2009 02:20 AM

Juicy, another one will pop up very soon, they always do. 1 goes down, 2 go up.

Antonio 04-17-2009 02:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Robocrop (Post 15754044)
Oh and the jails in Sweden arent like in the states. I wouldnt be suprised if they will go to a jail without fence :)

I watched a documentary about the Swedish jais, the cells looked really decent, I wouldn't mind spending a month there just to chill out and do nothing...

martinsc 04-17-2009 02:31 AM

http://torrentfreak.com/the-pirate-b...erdict-090417/

quantum-x 04-17-2009 02:33 AM

http://www.thelocal.se/18908.html In English.
Will be tied up in appeals for years.

darksoul 04-17-2009 02:35 AM

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Originally Posted by quantum-x (Post 15754089)
Will be tied up in appeals for years.

Exactly. It aint over yet.

Paul Markham 04-17-2009 02:41 AM

Pirate Bay founders found guilty

Good news indeed. It won't win the the war but it's a battle won in the war. Now onto the next bunch of criminals who make a living out of theft.

As for it being tied up in appeal I hope so. It will cost the owners to keep it in appeal and will show others there is no profit in theft. Sad;y today there is, but that's where we attack them. They are in it for money, take that away and they will disappear. Except for a few kids who will do no harm.

quantum-x 04-17-2009 02:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Paul Markham (Post 15754106)
Pirate Bay founders found guilty

Good news indeed. It won't win the the war but it's a battle won in the war. Now onto the next bunch of criminals who make a living out of theft.

As for it being tied up in appeal I hope so. It will cost the owners to keep it in appeal and will show others there is no profit in theft. Sad;y today there is, but that's where we attack them. They are in it for money, take that away and they will disappear. Except for a few kids who will do no harm.

You do realise though Paul, this ruling has nothing to do with the site. The site continues.

milambur 04-17-2009 02:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Antonio (Post 15754082)
I watched a documentary about the Swedish jais, the cells looked really decent, I wouldn't mind spending a month there just to chill out and do nothing...

These guys will end up in a prison that don't even have a fence, they will have electronic shackles to restric their movement and during the days they will be able to stay outside on a area the size of couple football fields. They will be able to have visitors with very few restrictions. They might even be able to run the sites from inside the prison.

duff 04-17-2009 02:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by quantum-x (Post 15754112)
You do realise though Paul, this ruling has nothing to do with the site. The site continues.

Exactly. From what I've read the site will continue to operate, uninterrupted. But, at least it means these guys aren't untouchable.

seeandsee 04-17-2009 02:50 AM

we will see

cess 04-17-2009 02:52 AM

http://op-for.com/simpsons_nelson_haha2.jpg

Paul Markham 04-17-2009 02:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by quantum-x (Post 15754112)
You do realise though Paul, this ruling has nothing to do with the site. The site continues.

I think I said this

Quote:

It won't win the the war but it's a battle won in the war.
It's another battle won, not a war.

Of course if you have a better strategy then please tell us all, we would love to hear it. :1orglaugh

quantum-x 04-17-2009 03:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Paul Markham (Post 15754134)
I think I said this



It's another battle won, not a war.

Of course if you have a better strategy then please tell us all, we would love to hear it. :1orglaugh

You're so touchy Paul. Want a hug?
TPB (and others of its ilk) bring piracy to the masses. If you offer someone something for $200, or give them a simple means to have it for free, or next to nothing, the vast majority will take that option.

This is true of any product or service. What is missing is an avenue for movies, music, and software to be distributed legally, with the same ease, and realistic pricing schemes.

iTunes made major impact, for the reasons above: suddenly paying $1 a song was easier than trawling TPB.

Companies like vALVE have made headways into online software distribution, too - games are cheaper, and instantly available, downloadable, and playable on any PC that you own - a hell of a lot easier than downloading the cracked version.

TPB is the product of a situation, just as speakeasies were products of prohibition.

The solution? Help foster legal, convenient technologies for the masses to use.
The dedicated pirates will never purchase - but they were never using TPB, anyhow.

kane 04-17-2009 03:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by duff (Post 15754119)
Exactly. From what I've read the site will continue to operate, uninterrupted. But, at least it means these guys aren't untouchable.

So I wonder how the site can continue to exist. If they own the site and they are guilty does that not mean they have to then stop the source of that guilt? If they are allowed to continue running the site then it seems that each day the site runs that is another day they are breaking the law they were just found guilty of.

I think I answered my own question. It seems the site is now run by a bunch of different people and not these guys. . . time to find out who they are and go after them too.

Paul Markham 04-17-2009 03:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by quantum-x (Post 15754152)
You're so touchy Paul. Want a hug?
TPB (and others of its ilk) bring piracy to the masses. If you offer someone something for $200, or give them a simple means to have it for free, or next to nothing, the vast majority will take that option.

This is true of any product or service. What is missing is an avenue for movies, music, and software to be distributed legally, with the same ease, and realistic pricing schemes.

iTunes made major impact, for the reasons above: suddenly paying $1 a song was easier than trawling TPB.

Companies like vALVE have made headways into online software distribution, too - games are cheaper, and instantly available, downloadable, and playable on any PC that you own - a hell of a lot easier than downloading the cracked version.

TPB is the product of a situation, just as speakeasies were products of prohibition.

The solution? Help foster legal, convenient technologies for the masses to use.
The dedicated pirates will never purchase - but they were never using TPB, anyhow.

I hear what you're saying. I just don't like the negativity some show.

So it's all about price. Again good and glad you will be pricing PrettyInCash.com & TeenGFs.com at a $1 with unlimited downloads. :1orglaugh

Seriously I started $5 porn with exactly the thought process you are using here and look how everyone tried to rip that apart. Was it because one of the billers was not working or they were scared $5 might become the price of a porn membership?

So would we be making more money by cutting out the affiliates or giving them a cut of $5 to sites with 20 videos in?

There is also the question of whether the iTunes price is possible because of the people paying full price.

quantum-x 04-17-2009 03:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Paul Markham (Post 15754159)
I hear what you're saying. I just don't like the negativity some show.

So it's all about price. Again good and glad you will be pricing PrettyInCash.com & TeenGFs.com at a $1 with unlimited downloads. :1orglaugh

Seriously I started $5 porn with exactly the thought process you are using here and look how everyone tried to rip that apart. Was it because one of the billers was not working or they were scared $5 might become the price of a porn membership?

So would we be making more money by cutting out the affiliates or giving them a cut of $5 to sites with 20 videos in?

There is also the question of whether the iTunes price is possible because of the people paying full price.

Did you read what I posted at all? It's about price and convenience - and it's the same with any product or service.

Will you buy apples at Tesco, 5km down the road for 50p, or at the shop on the corner, 95p? Your considerations were price versus convenience.

iTunes pricing is actually fairly standard in terms of price per track, compared to a CD - but the advantage is convenience: No need to go to a shop, DRM free songs, instant downloads. Value + convenience makes it a much more attractive option than getting a CD, or trawling TPB for the 128kbs cut.

In regards to software, obviously you're not familiar (or ignored) the comments about vALVE and STEAM: they're online downloading platforms for games. They're basically iTunes, but for games. Prices are still realistic ( ~50US for a game), but with the conveniences previously mentioned - and they're very successful.

And yes, TeenGFs has $1 trials, excellent conversions, and great retention. Thanks for noticing ;)

V_RocKs 04-17-2009 03:21 AM

BTW, their prisons are a joke... They will do minimum security with some labor... Like washing dishes, laundry, etc... They almost look like what we'd call a half-way house.

halfpint 04-17-2009 03:36 AM

LOL ..this is the top trending topic on twitter so tweeters get some free traffic to your mainstream sites ..quickly

Paul Markham 04-17-2009 03:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by quantum-x (Post 15754165)
Did you read what I posted at all? It's about price and convenience - and it's the same with any product or service.

Will you buy apples at Tesco, 5km down the road for 50p, or at the shop on the corner, 95p? Your considerations were price versus convenience.

iTunes pricing is actually fairly standard in terms of price per track, compared to a CD - but the advantage is convenience: No need to go to a shop, DRM free songs, instant downloads. Value + convenience makes it a much more attractive option than getting a CD, or trawling TPB for the 128kbs cut.

In regards to software, obviously you're not familiar (or ignored) the comments about vALVE and STEAM: they're online downloading platforms for games. They're basically iTunes, but for games. Prices are still realistic ( ~50US for a game), but with the conveniences previously mentioned - and they're very successful.

And yes, TeenGFs has $1 trials, excellent conversions, and great retention. Thanks for noticing ;)

You never got my point. So I did not make it clear enough.

This industry over prices it's product in relationship to the customers needs and convenience. Some sites with 40 scenes on are only worth $1 because it's the same scene, just a different girl. Some customers only want one scene today and want to try a few to see the one that really suits them. So why doesn't this industry gear itself to pricing the customers will pay rather than force a few into paying a lot?

So my point is, if you missed it, why doesn't this industry price itself to suit the customers needs.

On PMT we do $2.95 trials and $5 for 3 days, the $5 for 3 days are the most popular. Not because there is anything wrong with the site. It's as you say it suits the customers needs more. They come back when they're ready to come back. Some very often. One guy once a week, I assume it's when his wife is out. :1orglaugh

In regards to programs, are they selling them legally? If so all is fine. but is it being paid for by the full price joins?

quantum-x 04-17-2009 03:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Paul Markham (Post 15754193)
You never got my point. So I did not make it clear enough.

This industry over prices it's product in relationship to the customers needs and convenience. Some sites with 40 scenes on are only worth $1 because it's the same scene, just a different girl. Some customers only want one scene today and want to try a few to see the one that really suits them. So why doesn't this industry gear itself to pricing the customers will pay rather than force a few into paying a lot?

So my point is, if you missed it, why doesn't this industry price itself to suit the customers needs.

On PMT we do $2.95 trials and $5 for 3 days, the $5 for 3 days are the most popular. Not because there is anything wrong with the site. It's as you say it suits the customers needs more. They come back when they're ready to come back. Some very often. One guy once a week, I assume it's when his wife is out. :1orglaugh

In regards to programs, are they selling them legally? If so all is fine. but is it being paid for by the full price joins?


I wasn't talking about porn at all Paul.

And jesus, did it ever occur that you could type 'valve steam' into google and get the answer?

NinjaSteve 04-17-2009 03:52 AM

How much do each of those guys make per year? And who the hell is the old guy, Carl Lundström?

bmchunu 04-17-2009 03:53 AM

I have to agree with quantum-x .. it's a case of adapt or die ... whether the tubes or pirate bay kill you .. it doesn't matter. The world and business in general has always been survival of the fittest ... and the online adult industry is only starting to realise that now!!

quantum-x 04-17-2009 04:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NinjaSteve (Post 15754204)
How much do each of those guys make per year? And who the hell is the old guy, Carl Lundström?

Seems the site was pulling in 1.2M a year, according to one article.

StaceyJo 04-17-2009 04:04 AM

Interesting...

acrylix 04-17-2009 04:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by martinsc (Post 15754085)

LMAO at all the freeloaders ("timeshifters") on there threatening to never pay for a CD again. :1orglaugh

bobby666 04-17-2009 04:31 AM

will thye have internet in their prison cells?

Manowar 04-17-2009 04:33 AM

bet they weren't expecting that

james_clickmemedia 04-17-2009 04:38 AM

TPB has been slow since the trial so I switched to MiniNova...


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