WARNING Obama thinks that the constraints of the Constitution are a "tragedy"!!!!!!
 

In his own words....

"If you look at the victories and failures of the civil rights movement and its litigation strategy in the court, I think where it succeeded was to invest formal rights in previously dispossessed people, so that now I would have the right to vote. I would now be able to sit at the lunch counter and order as long as I could pay for it I?d be o.k. But, the Supreme Court never ventured into the issues of redistribution of wealth, and of more basic issues such as political and economic justice in society."

"To that extent, as radical as I think people try to characterize the Warren Court, it wasn?t that radical. It didn?t break free from the essential constraints that were placed by the founding fathers in the Constitution, at least as its been interpreted and Warren Court interpreted in the same way, that generally the Constitution is a charter of negative liberties. Says what the states can?t do to you. Says what the Federal government can?t do to you, but doesn?t say what the Federal government or State government must do on your behalf, and that hasn?t shifted and one of the, I think, tragedies of the civil rights movement was, um, because the civil rights movement became so court focused I think there was a tendency to lose track of the political and community organizing and activities on the ground that are able to put together the actual coalition of powers through which you bring about redistributive change. In some ways we still suffer from that."

These are actual quotes by an actual person who is actually on course to be the next president of our country. Senator Obama thinks we suffer because the Warren Court wasn't radical enough to junk the Constitution entirely.

This is your last warning guys.... :disgust:disgust


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Michael, forget about this. You will not win this time around. Come back in 4 years and tell us Democrats that we were wrong instead if that is the case when that time comes around.

For now just sit, relax and enjoy the change that is coming.

xoxoxo
Oy--

You may want to try reading it again.....

So the man speaks the truth and it's a warning?

Be warned everyone, Obama tells the truth and everyone knows a truth telling president would be a bad thing.

You're probably right buddy... *sigh*

I think it will be too late by then, but never mind.


Will we see you in LA? I actually need to have a meeting with you...


:)

Health care is a right.

LOL where you find that? On the internets and so must all be true?

So now republicans are protectors of the constitution? Where were you when Dick Cheney and GW Bush where carving it up to give the White House and the office of the President broad powers that would have made the founding fathers roll over in their graves?

I will be in LA for the Webmaster Access in November - lets get together then :thumbsup

That was pretty funny

He says "tragedies of the civil rights movement"

He does NOT say "tragedies of the constraints of the constitution"

says who?

where do "rights" come from?

Wow, he thinks that the government should do more for the people.
The man must be evil!!

BINGO...the so called Republicans have shredded the consitution in a very short 8 years and now they cry that Obama will do worse..LOL

Hey now, if we have to pay a shit load of taxes the least thing our joke of a goverment can offer is health care to its citizens. Dont ya think?

the funny thing is that the same people bitching about it... can totally ignore the guy that's openly calling the constitution into question... of course, he's your guy right? so that's ok now? not an issue anymore? not so important today? not so important what happens next to the constitution you WERE so worried about?


it's not the government offering anything. its someone taking my money and giving it to someone else.

and based on what? why do you think i owe you what you can't pay a few hundred dollars a month for?

It's cute the way Americans care about Americans. You must think the same of the military then? Why should some kid go out and die for what you could have gone out and died for?

It comes down to a TWO men.

John Mccain or Barack Obama, unforunatly Ron Paul was shown the door. Now with these two men as my choice I have to favor the more socially Liberal man over the flip flop right wing evangelical ass kissing, economy disastor that is Mccain/Palin.

Sure there are issues I disagree with Obama on but not nearly as many as with Palin/Mccain.

I am a military man and i know that Mccain was a very poor soldier who got through on the family name. He was a horrible fighter pilot, student, senator...blah blah blah..

Ill go with the Harvard grad EVERY time over the flunky ass wipe who doesnt know how to use a computer.

Im a fiscal convservative, social liberal...and Mccain/Palin are neither of those. Mccain plans to spend more of MY money on his failed policy than Obama who is far more Republican than Mccain.

"I'm the mayor, I can do whatever I want until the courts tell me I can't.'" --Sarah Palin

well said:thumbsup

At least Obama seems to say what he believes ... unlike Bush and McCain who praise the consitution while covertly subverting it. It is very easy to talk about how great the consitution is. Look at Obama's and McCain's voting records to find out what they really think about the Constitution.

He didn't call the constitution into question. You could skew it that way if you wish.

He is referring to Civil Liberties related to the Constitution. And he is "very correct" in what he said. He didn't lie and isn't trying to use trick words, he stated cold hard facts.





Your money is already taken and given to someone else. We all just got nailed for trillions, to give back to Banks, which some "have" used to buy other bad Debts with already. Basically bailing out the other super rich, with your money.... with no control over what they spend it on.

Not counting all Schools, every public program in every City and State, all poor and old people, including medial for illegals or visitors. Every already known social program, which we have 1000's of.

The richer you are, the higher tax you pay. Your money IS taken from you and used to make the Country better. From wars and money that fund Corps that supply the wars goods to local crap in every state/city. It all redistributes our wealth.

You owe, because you use the system every day. Your kids will, your parents will, you will..

I thinkits funny that conservatives freak about the Obama plan to bring in regulation and focus the return of the middle class in his plan, yet COnservatives pass a 700 billion dollar welfare project to the richest people in America during a 8 year war that is over 10 Million dollars a month.

American tax dollars are for Americans, we put in it and the Conservatives throw it away like toilet paper to people that do not even like America.

I think it is about time Government puts our money into the American system of checks and balance along with oh say some good schools, better roads, and over all growth of our nation. One can only imagine what great things our country would have if the government was more diligent in the infrastructure of our own country rather than pissing it away on foriegn adventures that have accomplished absolutly nothing.

FOr these conservative pigs that want to call it socialism they can eat a dick and die in the gutter. Fuck them.

Once more, I remind you that the title of this thread is false, perhaps even libel.

He says "tragedies of the civil rights movement"

He does NOT say "the constraints of the constitution are a tragedy"

oh... well by all means. lets take more. and you know what? AND... lets take more of MY money, because i work harder, longer and better than most.

Not counting all Schools, every public program in every City and State, all poor and old people, including medial for illegals or visitors. Every already known social program, which we have 1000's of.

wrong. that will never be true until there's a flat tax. the richer you are... the lower % of your income you will be to the federal government in income taxes. never the less, the a few % at the top, already pay the the majority federal income taxes as it is.


Ok Comrade Stalin, I accept your retarded rationalization of moving once again towards confiscatory tax rates and punishing of those who actually create jobs and build wealth. I mean... if the government is already taking some of my money....why not take more? In fact, why even bother to call it "mine" to begin with??? I've now seen the light Mao! I'm in it really for everyone else. That's what a capitalist/free market economy is about!

What the fuck is next with you people? You sound like your pretty close to rounding up "enemies of the state" for execution so you can build your workers paradise once anyone with a brain is out of the way.

Well said. Finding a real conservative in Washignton is finding big foot.

Wow...you're really reaching for this one.

Did you even read the quote you posted? He never once called the constitution a tragedy.

If this is the best Republicans can do, this election is in the bag.

Dude worse than than that! Jeesus...
Let's talk about how these Conservatives ran to Communist China for lines of Credit!
The entire war effort is based on taking out loans from Communists! THats right these fucking bastards have indebted America to Communists! Jessus mother fucking christ...

Now if that does not break the leg of credibility to Republican/Conservative's claims of a fucking Democrat being a socialist nothing will.

For all I care the Republicans can dig up a photo of Obama sucking Carl Marx's cock and it still would not detour me from voting for Obama at this point.

THere Absolutly nothing the Republicans can say or do at this point, they made there fucking bed and they better sleep lightly in it because there is going to be hell to pay.

Them shit stain excuses for human beings are lucky to be breathing these days for whoring AMerica out to Communists and wiping thier asses with all our hard earned money.

You will get a tax break. What the hell are you worried about?

I understand you don't like higher taxes, but you are okay with sky rocking medical/healthcare costs that do cost you more every year?

So you are okay with giving your money to those rich fucks so they can cancel you when you get sick... allow people to die that have paid in... But it's not okay to make sure "you and your entire family" are taken care of, if you can't afford it or if the insurance company "chooses" to drop you.


Huh? The rich get taxed more now, it's impossible to argue this. Just because I can use company loop holes to pay less tax, doesn't mean I still don't pay a higher percentage of tax than a poor person.

And a flat tax system, would mean the rich pay less and the poor pay more.


Trickle down economics doesn't work, it never did.. not even a tiny bit. You can not give tax breaks to the super rich or give them more money. It does not produce more jobs, it does not fund the eco, and they do not give anything to the poor. Tax free donations so they can lower overall tax brackets in different Corps they own, isn't giving to the poor.

Tax breaks work for the middle class and small business owners, which are the people that actually produce the most jobs in America and the people that spend the most money.

Bush should be sitting in Guantanamo Bay prison in an orange jump suit. No need to impeach and try him in the senate. He should simply be put in a glass case (by Obama) and be labeled "enemy combatant" for the rest of his life ... and receive daily beatings from his father as punishment for invading Baghdad. GW Bush can pay off his debt to society by ticket sales to view a "live ex-president in glass case". It will be like a twilight zone episode where the bad guy gets what is coming to him in the end.

If McCain wins this election, it is time for revolution.

Nice post. :thumbsup

i pay the same. haven't noticed my insurance "sky rocketing"

the problem in "affordable healthcare" has ZERO to do with insurance or hospitals are doctors or anyone in the medical profession.. it has to do with a legal system that is in desperate need of tort reforms.

sorry man, i'm sitting right next to a guy who was the CFO of Blue Cross / Blue Shield for many years. they don't make real profits from what they charge. their margins are very small.


Huh??

i'm totally fine.

i object to paying the health insurance of someone who always seems to have nice wheels wheels on their car, the latest designer clothes, all the newest, neatest mobile gadgets but wants to tell me that health care costs too much.

how about people start making common sense shit a priority in their lives? wouldn't that be "CHANGE"


you're insane. you clearly have zero clue what you are talking about. you are confusing tax rates with what is actually paid.


uhmm.. ok,.. you just out-insaned yourself. if everyone pays 10%... everyone pays 10%. its not real difficult math.


you are stating opinion as fact.

raising taxes and chasing people offshore as we have been doesn't help the economy either.

you seem to have this very marxist attitude about big companies.

i respect your dream. hopefully you will one day live in a society where no one succeeds. where the Microsoft's of the nation aren't there creating 100's of 1000's of jobs across the globe and giving more philanthropically than any organization or private individual ever has in the history of the planet.

that seems to be the world you think is best.

so .. huh? giving to the poor is not giving to the poor?

really?

i am starting to suspect blunt force trauma to the head. feel dizzy? nauseous? tired? vision blurry?

are you sure?

i don't entirely disagree with this. i understand how many jobs are created by small business.

Which state you live in Pleasurepays? Arkansas? Alabama? or what?

Here is some "news" which you can agree with.

https://youtube.com/watch?v=cxQ8hWekypY

:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

spin is at its highest level ....

He found it in the radio interview you refused to listen to earlier... :uhoh

I dont think that the old man will be any better. I think either way we are fucked.

We've disagreed over the years but I always applaud your common sense. :thumbsup

Sticky, you new avatar is really lousy and annoying ... working on another one ???...

"What improves the circumstances of the greater part can never be regarded as an inconveniency to the whole. No society can surely be flourishing and happy, of which the far greater part of the members are poor and miserable. " - Adam Smith (aka the father of modern economics), The Wealth of Nations, Book I Chapter VIII

"What improves the circumstances of the greater part can never be regarded as an inconveniency to the whole. No society can surely be flourishing and happy, of which the far greater part of the members are poor and miserable. " Adam Smith (aka the father of modern economics), The Wealth of Nations, Book I Chapter VIII